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A 14-loss Auburn team should not make the dance over an undefeated Miami team. Why is this a debate
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Anonymous 2w

It’s not a debate. Miami would only be compared to Auburn for a bid if they lose in their conference tournament, so they wouldn’t be undefeated anymore

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

That’s still one loss in a conference championship compared to 15 losses for Auburn (assuming they don’t win the sec which is likely). A team that is quite literally mid (14/31 games ending in a loss is objectively mid) should not make the tournament over a team that might be mid but won all of their games. They literally have nothing else to prove. They belong. The only debate should be what their seed is.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

My bad, 15 loss Auburn (16 if they lose the sec chip). That’s even worse

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

You also gotta compare their schedule strengths. It’s not all about how many wins they have

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

The thing is Miami tried to play tougher ooc opponents and none of them went through with scheduling them. They literally had to play what is in front of them and did their job. Even then a perfect regular season has only ever happened 4 times in cbb, so I don’t see the point in bringing up sos when teams have had way easier schedule than Miami and still didn’t go undefeated.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

I think it’s pretty rare to not play a single quad 1 opponent on the season though. If Michigan or Duke had Miami’s schedule they’re easily undefeated. Regardless, the bubble is so weak this year Miami is getting in even if they lose

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

That doesn’t make any sense, if duke or Michigan played any mid majors schedule they’d probably go undefeated. It’s definitely rare but I think an undefeated regular season even with a hilariously weak SOS should get you an at large bid just on principle

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Anonymous replying to -> squirming_worm 2w

Then you’re encouraging other teams not to schedule difficult teams, which is exactly what the committee doesn’t want. Most midmajors play multiple p5 teams in nonconference, Miami played none, like literally not a single quad 1 opponent, so no you’re not guaranteed an undefeated season playing any mid major’s schedule

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

I don’t think barely making an at large bid with a weak schedule is going to encourage any mid majors to not schedule harder opponents. As others have said this was not Miami trying to game the system, the tried and failed to schedule q1. Never said it was a lock, but I think if any top 3 team played a mid major schedule (even a better one) anything more than a 1 loss reg season would be a serious disappointment

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Anonymous replying to -> squirming_worm 2w

Take a look at the types of teams who played the most difficult non conference schedules, I don’t think losing more than one regular season game with those schedules would be a disappointment at all. It’s a case of 2 extremes: Miami has one of the easiest schedules in the country while Auburn had one of the most difficult. I don’t think Auburn deserves a bid because at some point loss accumulation does matter more than SOS, but the committee consistently rewards tough SOSs and punishes easy ones

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Miami’s NCSOS was 361/365 for reference, like quite literally playing Bible colleges

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

this isn’t football schledule strength doesn’t have everything to do with it. an undefeated team in the regular season shows they closed it out every single game.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

True. Going undefeated says a lot about consistency and closing out games when it matters.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

Hey

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