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the “literary fiction” genre is so pretentious. like wdym “literary”? is fantasy, mystery, and all the other genre fiction categories not “literary” enough? i’m an english major and i’m so tired of lit fic, almost all of it is so pompous
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Anonymous 43w

i totally agree like it’s almost saying that fantasy or mystery and etc books are not of any worth, good, or that they even cover deep topics bc they aren’t literary fiction

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Anonymous 43w

I’m in a YA lit class and it’s ALL lit fic. Feels so reductive of the YA reading category to cut out all genre fiction.

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Anonymous 43w

I mean I assumed it was called that because it doesn’t really fall in a genre, but rather tries to realistically display the human condition without reliance on tropes and genre conventions. Not saying one is better than the other, that’s just what I thought. They serve different purposes

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 43w

I always called it realistic fiction growing up but idk what happened to that term

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 43w

maybe, except i’ve read many fantasy books that do that exact thing

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 43w

how is it fantasy if it’s something that could happen in real life?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 43w

so many fantasy books deal with human nature and the things that real people go through. most of them do it better than all the lit fic i’ve read

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 43w

Im not saying they don’t, I’m just saying they use fantastic elements in their exploration, as a way to enhance their dive into the human condition or approach it from a different angle or just spice it up. Lit fic, by definition, does not have fantastic elements or fictional science or any other genre convention that bends and distorts reality. At least that’s how I see it. Lit fic is more straightforward

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 43w

that’s true, but calling it “literary fiction” is so pretentious. “general fiction” would be a much better term

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 43w

I just don’t see how it’s pretentious though. It’s using literary device over genre convention to build its story

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 43w

I mean maybe it’s the neurodivergent in me not seeing subtext lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 43w

but what do you mean “literary device”? does fantasy not also use literary devices?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 43w

yes but it’s set apart with its use of genre convention. idk maybe I’m not making sense lol I could be totally wrong

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 43w

yeah i mean lit fic is contemporary, if that’s what you mean. but why not call the genre Contemporary Fiction?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 43w

I wouldn’t say it’s always contemporary? I’d consider Bleak House literary. Little Women? One could make the argument for Oliver Twist. Notes from Underground in a way. Perhaps Crime and Punishment. Anna Karenina?

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Anonymous 43w

Literary fiction isn’t really defined clearly. It’s basically just a synonym for whatever is written well and wants to be something more than pure escapism. Those books are fine but the authors who write them are nowhere near as skilled or introspective as literary fiction authors, which is why basically all the classics are from that genre

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 43w

false on all accounts?? also you’d say Frankenstein is lit fic instead of horror/sci fi? You’d say Austen is lit fic instead of romance? Three Musketeers and Don Quixote is lit fic instead of adventure? Wuthering Heights and Jane Eyre are lit fic instead of gothic? What about Verne? Melville? Poe? Lovecraft? Wells? Vonnegut? you can’t say none of those aren’t written well and none of them were written for something more than escapism, or that none of them clearly fall into genre fiction

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 43w

lit fic authors certainly do try to emulate classics, but to say that all classics come from that genre is misleading. genre fiction wasn’t really established until the 20th century, so of course most classics are “lit fic”… but even that’s not true because there are so many classics that are mythological and fantastical in nature.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 43w

and it’s SO pretentious to say that genre fiction is “pure escapism” and therefore “nowhere near as skilled or introspective.” most fantasy books i’ve read are 10x as introspective as the lit fic authors who try to emulate the classics.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 43w

so then “general fiction” would be a better term, really anything but “literary”

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 43w

why? I mean if you’re saying “literary” somehow unfairly elevates the genre, doesn’t “general” unfairly demote it? like “oh this is the misc fiction that nobody wants to read”?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 43w

i don’t think so? at least that’s not what my association with the word “ general” is. i associate it with just “miscellaneous”, which is essentially what it is

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 43w

yeah I guess I see miscellaneous as like “other” kind of disregarded though I’ve also been thinking and going through my goodreads shelves and, idk if this is just a me thing, but I don’t consider every genreless fiction book lit fic. I’m not sure exactly what distinguishes it but to me I’d say there’s a difference between lit fic and fiction no label

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Anonymous 43w

What literary fiction books have you read for school? I’m just curious

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