Anonymous OP 20h

And even if people know who wrote something, can’t we just separate art from the artist? Nothing extreme like mein kampf or anything that’s not what I’m saying at all, but still. So many books from my childhood that got me into reading are now taboo, but only online too I’ve been noticing. I have a ton of coworkers and friends who love hp for example and even see random people with merch in person all the time and haven’t heard a bad thing said aloud.

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Anonymous #1 20h

I def don’t go around lauding Rowling, she’s terrible, but I have recommended the books to a younger cousin. She doesn’t know any of the controversy and is absolutely loving them just as I did when I was little. I have never seen her so excited about a book and couldn’t think to take away the option that we all had growing up. And I gave her my old set for those who are worried about that. I haven’t read them lately, but they got me into reading and they’re doing the same for her

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Anonymous OP 20h

JKR quoted Mein Kampf so I fear it actually is that serious. She is trying to eradicate trans people. Sound familiar? If you don’t want to look up authors, don’t. But don’t make it sound like a weird social justice warrior thing to people who care where they send their money.

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Anonymous #2 19h

Supporting the content monetarily is in fact supporting the author. Especially those who are using their incomes to fund hateful causes. There is nuance in consuming media by harmful people, but there absolutely is not when it comes to giving your money to them.

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Anonymous #1 18h

I disagree. The actually amount of money that goes back to the author from sales of art is pretty small. Plus, if you’re going to apply that logic to purchases you have to do it to everything in order to be consistent. So, you have to be asking the same moral questions about the farmers that grow crops and raise animals, the owners & board members of every company you shop at, the actors & every single person part of producing every single movie or show you watch… where do you draw the line?

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Anonymous #2 18h

I draw the line at the necessity that people eat??? This is the same argument people make in favor of AI data centers. “The farming industry is just as harmful” well yes but people do need to eat. You don’t need the new special edition of Chamber of Secrets or Coraline. I’m astonished that I have to explain this in 2026. And JKR has said her sales go directly to anti trans legislation. Many times. So I guess if you’re okay with helping eradicate marginalized groups, go ahead.

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Anonymous #2 18h

I do boycott companies when I can. I cannot boycott literally eating food. Like this is so out of touch it’s insane. You don’t need chatGTP to do your homework and you don’t need Ravenclaw sweatpants. Like my god

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Anonymous #1 18h

Yea, I just think the amount of effort it takes to truly stay faithful and consistent to that level of believe requires a full time job. Rowling is rich and will stay rich regardless of if you or I or anyone else ever purchased another thing regarding HP ever again. So, my original point stays the same: supporting the work does not equate to support the author or their beliefs. If someone once to take a moral stance because of personal beliefs to not support someone works that’s fine.

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Anonymous #2 18h

But chastising others for not doing the same is harmful behavior as well. It’s the same as people shaming for folks going to the strip club. Shaming others for not following your moral beliefs is not okay. Most moral/ethical things are not black and white. People should be able to be entertained by whatever they want without hate or guilt.

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Anonymous #2 18h

I mean go ahead and absolve yourself of blame all you want, but JKR wouldn’t be as rich if people weren’t still buying her works. You’re part of the problem if you’re buying new HP products plain and simple. This isn’t a matter of polluting corporations blaming your average mom for not recycling enough. This is literally, from her own words, supporting a harmful cause. I guess nostalgia is more important to you than the lives that have been ruined by her.

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Anonymous #1 18h

I just disagree with your premise that supporting the works of someone bad equates to supporting the bad that person believes. It’s simply not true and that’s the moral issue that we disagree on and that’s okay because it’s clearly not a black and white right and wrong issue. I understand your logic. I just don’t believe it’s accurate nor possible to truly follow that line of ethical thinking consistently.

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Anonymous #2 18h

I don’t understand how you can’t comprehend that giving a bad person money funds their bad causes. It’s so insanely straightforward and you’re choosing to try and spin it as an opinion. Very weird and out of touch. Get HP used or whatever but it’s pretty agreed upon that if you’re buying new, you couldn’t give less of a fck about the trans people who have killed themselves because of JKR’s actions.

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Anonymous #1 18h

Because not all their money goes to the cause? So saying my money does is not accurate nor provable. The evil being done by slave labor from the big corporations is way more widespread and there’s little outcry against Nike or Walmart or stores like. The cherry picking and inconsistency of that moral magic is a huge part of my issues with it.

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Anonymous #2 18h

So don’t support those things either? Deflecting to other problematic organizations in order to justify supporting another is super not the move. But I have a feeling you’re not the type of person that can be reasoned with. Go about your life blind and blameless. Hopefully no one popular ever decides that a demographic you belong to needs to be erased from existence.

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Anonymous #1 18h

Im happy to admit i am wrong when provided evidence and facts. But hearsay, opinions and feels is not evidence nor facts.

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Anonymous #2 17h

There is no opinion to be had in a simple a to b transaction. That’s where you’re lost completely. You can’t have a differing opinion on literal facts of where money spent goes. Especially when the author is very up front about this FACT. Defend buying JKR to someone else. She literally quoted Hitler. Recently. But if you wanna keep supporting a Nazi apologist who uses her money to get people to kill themselves, go for it.

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Anonymous #1 17h

lol again, there’s no proof that my money spent on something goes back to her directly and then that same money is used by her to fund evil things. Those are major assumptions and not factual. She can say whatever and do whatever and it doesn’t prove that’s my money going towards that. That’s an illogical conclusion and pretty wild to think that way. Again, you’d have to apply that logic to anything else you ever buy which is impossible to do.

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Anonymous #2 17h

Thank you 😭 I just don’t get the hate. For the authors, certainly, but I don’t know why this immediately equals hate for people who read the books. Few enough people read anyway, and I’m sure not everyone picking up a book knows the authors backstory. Even w/ something as popular as hp, I know a bunch of kids picking it up won’t know anything about JKR. And the same people who are bullying people for reading are also anti-book banning (as they should be) but it’s def a contradiction.

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Anonymous #1 17h

Not social justice, just social media. I care where I send my money too. I personally wouldn’t give her any money either, but you’re talking to demean anyone who reads it whether they got it from a LFL, used store, or wherever else she won’t see further profit from

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Anonymous OP 16h

I am not. Reread my original comment. Promoting the series vocally without caveat is an issue at this point. I do not care if you get it used, give it used, rent it, etc. But you’re willfully misinterpreting my comments. So maybe you did mean to start a big thing with this post.

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Anonymous #2 16h

You are willfully ignoring JKR’s words and the open evidence she has provided on where her book revenue goes. This is not debatable. This is literal facts that you can easily find. Someday maybe you will understand responsibility but for now, keep pretending that facts are opinions.

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Anonymous #1 16h

There are plenty of ways to obtain media without the proceeds going back to the author. They make most of their money via other means as well. Plus, I’m not even talking about her specifically. I’m talking generically. It’s okay to enjoy works created by bad people. Most people are dead that have written books anyways. Plenty of them did or supported horrible things when they are alive. Should we avoid those books as well?

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Anonymous #1 16h

I really didn’t 😅 I’ve been saying I wouldn’t buy it new either or support any of her personal views, honestly my original post wasn’t even directed at hp. It really just boils down to people should be able to read whatever they like without being made to feel inferior. If you truly thought the same I don’t think you’d be so bothered

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Anonymous #4 15h

Kind of a side note, but I’ve found that Facebook marketplace is an excellent resource for finding second books. I got all of these from this dude on FB for $1 a piece!

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Anonymous #3 15h

Secondhand*

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Anonymous OP 15h

I love putting words in people’s mouths when starting a conversation on a serious topic 😍 Keep it up, maybe you’ll actually figure out what I was saying in the first place at some point. Read whatever you want. If you monetarily support people like JKR though, then you are part of the problem that’s getting people killed plain and simple. You can’t separate art from the artist while GIVING MONEY TO THE ARTIST.

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Anonymous #1 14h

Ngl I feel like you’re arguing about JKR and not about the broad subject in general. I get that she’s like a prime example but you’re insulting #2 a lot for someone who is clearly not talking about any specific example and only about the general topic.

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Anonymous #1 14h

“Maybe you meant to start shit by posting this” “you’re putting words in my mouth and taking your own topic less seriously than me and you’re incompetent” yeah okay dude you’re losing your credibility the more I read these threads

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Anonymous #5 14h

Please ss what this guy is saying I think he has me blocked, I’m so intrigued 😭

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Anonymous #5 14h

Losing credibility because you want someone to justify your purchases of books by problematic authors. It’s okay. I see what this really is. I’ve made my point. And if nostalgic books are more important to you than human lives, that’s for you to reckon with.

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Anonymous #3 14h

🤣if they have you blocked you’re lucky. They’re just insulting OP and 1 and like only halfway on-topic but being suuuuper patronizing, like every comment is a “aha you’re not woke enough!” Was there more comments or something??? I didn’t even realize I’m #5 and I can’t see anything from you or 4.

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Anonymous #1 14h

See there you go again jumping to insult when you have zero real context into who I am as a person. I’m not going to reply to you again. You’re a sorry excuse for rage bait atp

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Anonymous #5 14h

Me and 4 are top lol. I think they must’ve blocked me when I said that smut is by definition porn in a thread like a week ago, had an argument with a very similar person 😭

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Anonymous #3 14h

Omg idk why it wasn’t showing up when I had scrolled up before, I did see them. And I was going to say you deserve top comment bc there was no better way to respond to this. You are what #1 thinks they are

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Anonymous #5 14h

I don’t think I’m anything besides someone who thinks we shouldn’t be sending money to transphobes. Idk why that’s so controversial to yall 🙄

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Anonymous #3 14h

That’s how I’ve always felt too, it was only recently that I started joining bookish spaces online, it seems like the top comments everywhere are about judging what/who everyone else is reading. Honestly it just kind of baffled me and wasn’t what I joined for. I wasn’t really referencing anything or anyone specific, just curious why people are still opposed to reading unpopular authors even when the monetary support variable that is used most commonly as the reason is taken out of the equation

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Anonymous OP 14h

Very bluntly, a lot of online spaces like this are full of performative losers. People love to preach this idea of reading being a source of intellectual freedom but will shit on you for reading controversial authors, it’s so backwards. Going back to Dostoevsky, I disagree with him on most core issues; religion, nationalism, liberalism, etc. But he’s still my favorite author, his ability to express the human condition is unmatched. I wouldn’t have found him if I stuck to agreeable authors.

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