Anonymous #1 1d

Facts. And I enjoy it but like I’m also not pretending that it’s not there to get me turned on! 😂

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Anonymous OP 1d

No one in this comment section (or with a brain) will deny it’s porn, but porn in a different format will have different effects on the brain as opposed to visual porn. That being said, I don’t support only reading porn; some of these bitches gotta broaden their horizons.

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Anonymous #4 1d

Yeah I agree but I was getting argued with & downvoted in another thread for pointing out the obvious smh

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Anonymous #11 1d

The biggest issue is that you say porn and people think of pornhub and then pornhub in a book.

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Anonymous #11 1d

If you ever watch a full production of a porn movie, they often have plots too. Older ones would sometimes be an hour of plot/setup and 30 minutes of porn.

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Anonymous #12 1d

downvoting a call-out of marketing fetish content towards minors is a self-report btw.

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Anonymous #13 1d

it doesn’t matter at all unless it’s being advertised as something it’s not

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Anonymous #14 1d

It doesn’t negate women’s reading 🙄 I have exactly TWO books in my personal possession that are pornographic. The other 300+ have zero explicit sex scenes or no sex at all. And if you want to read porn then go for it. You looking down on it is your own problem. Also I never said it was the entire book. This is a book community so please at least learn to read before coming here😅

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Anonymous #5 1d

You want smut in school libraries?

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Anonymous #15 1d

University libraries and public libraries should still have access to this.

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Anonymous #10 1d

Yeah but that’s not what school really refers to tbf

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Anonymous #15 22h

Please reread my comment. Advocates of book banning label any book under the sun as pornographic so that they can remove books they don’t like from school libraries. Hence why I don’t like to use the term ‘pornographic’ to refer to books, because it’s been hijacked and has a new meaning now.

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Anonymous #5 22h

yup they’ve been using it to call anything related to lgbtq ppl “pornographic” even if it’s a kid’s story with absolutely zero sex or a history book.

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Anonymous OP 20h

A book plot is much more involved than even an hour long porn video. You get insights into the personality, inside feelings, and the plot of a book (especially multi series ones) are gonna be so much more involved with most of the time, smaller porn to plot ratio.

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Anonymous #7 19h

I think smut (esp “dark romance”) tends to glorify harmful fetishes too but at least you have to engage with the story to actually get to the smut. And like u said it’s not harming any one directly and usually a lot less pedophilia

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Anonymous #10 19h

What are you on about

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Anonymous #18 19h

It's pretty clear

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Anonymous #10 19h

Do you know how harmful the porn industry is? How much of its rape? How much of it is CP? Banning that is in no way similar to banning smut books. Get a grip.

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Anonymous #18 18h

yeah i agree, it’s just not as glaringly obvious as with visual porn

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Anonymous #5 18h

Ah, I get what you’re saying

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Anonymous #3 17h

Porn movies have a plot to it too.

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Anonymous #18 17h

You need to get a grip. Rape and CP are illegal already. Consensual porn shouldn't be banned, and banning it in any form opens the doors to more censorship.

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Anonymous _coyote_ugly_ 16h

when you say porn movies do you mean like the kind of films on pornhub or like a sexually explicit movie like 50 shades

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Anonymous _coyote_ugly_ 16h

because i would argue that pornhub "plots" are significantly different than the plots of a sexually explicit romance novel or something

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Anonymous #18 16h

what kind of policy do you think would be able to "ban porn" and do so effectively, without downstream consequences to people already in that industry, and without inadvertently banning other things?

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Anonymous #21 16h

Brazzers is not the only type of porno movies out there. Also the clips that get put on pornhub of pretty much any movie are only quick clips of plot (if any) then straight into the sex. The best example of this is hentai. There are hentai shows with full seasons and actual plots and out of every 20-30 min episode maybe 4 minutes will be sex. It’s still porn.

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Anonymous #1 16h

is that not talked about? i feel like the definition of smut is books/writing that's sexually explicit. "smut" is to "porn" as "primate" is to "mammal" imo.

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Anonymous #21 16h

Movie porn is focused on the male gaze which can be a lot mor problematic because it can be absolutely anything like CP or nonconsentual. Book “porn” is more in depth and has a buildup which is actually what many women prefer and it’s focused on the female gaze which is more about being loved and cared for while the movies can be more violent and are just meant to be a quick jerk and they’re done

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Anonymous #21 16h

It’s definitely a sub genre but it’s a lot less sexual content compared to movie porn the smut I read is like 3-4 chapters out of like 30 are actually full sex scenes anything else is a bit of staring at each other or a 1 page long buildup and kiss. Yes there are some books that are more focused on that but I feel like smut is more diverse than people are making it out to be and I usually skim any sex I come across because I don’t want to read about the sex I want the cute and loving moments

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Anonymous #3 16h

Pornos have plots as well

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Anonymous #23 15h

When have you ever watched the plot in a porno and not skipped past it?

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Anonymous #8 15h

Never

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Anonymous #8 15h

Yes 😭 sometimes it’s nice to build up the “momentum“ before getting like fully there. I feel like it creates a better ending rather than just jumping in to the deep end no warm up or anything lol I also like dialogue before,during, & after.

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Anonymous OP 1h

Okay okay what if we eradicate how the visual porn industry currently is and rebuild it. This time visual porn being a lot similar to smut. The only reason why online visual porn is the way it is- is because the way the patriarchy has taught men to view sex is really fucked up. We dismantle the patriarchy, redefine porn and have amazing solo sex and even better partnered sex. It will only take about 50 years but we just gotta lock in.

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Anonymous #9 1h

How are you supposed to be the arbiter of what good porn is??

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Anonymous #10 1h

Most if not all visual porn dehumanizes the woman. And that’s the problem here. The Patriarchal sexual experience is all about getting off on having power over someone instead of mutually engaging in an act. That’s why CP is so prevalent and mostly why rape happens. Look I’m not here to yuck bitches yums but there is no way you’re gonna sit here and tell me that visual porn is a better representation of sex compared to smutt because then ima just assume that you’re a man who can’t read….

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Anonymous #9 1h

And nobody wants to be a man who can’t read, I mean you’re illiterate and you have a refractory period, damn… sounds like my personal hell.

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Anonymous #9 1h

So I've read some pretty fucked up written porn... a lot of women have CNC kinks which are worse than most porn is legally allowed to show. So again how is it that you can be an arbiter of good porn and especially when you only focus on the visual porn.

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Anonymous #10 1h

Fair enough, though I’d argue that those women with those Kinks are dealing with some fucked up shit that should be addressed. But I’d also argue CNC is still consensual… but that debate is similar to the “is water wet” debate. I’d also say that written Kinky sex is a lot less common than visual kinky sex but I could be wrong. Do I personally think I should be the ultimate supreme morality arbiter. (Duh) but we are both adults and we know the difference between good and bad.

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Anonymous #9 1h

These types of discussion are difficult, because there is the obvious question of “where do we draw the line”, and I do admit my first comment in this thread-I was kind of joking (kind of not), but I was just personally saying that I think visual porn would be a lot better if it was similar to MOST written smut. Just saying… 🤷🏾‍♀️ how about we try it and you can listen to me say I told you so in 50 years 😉

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