Anonymous #6 1w

i* used to not lol

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Anonymous #8 6d

Plenty of people can multitask and retain information. When scientific studies show that retention between physical reading and audiobooks is equal, this just ends up being an ableist take. Not to mention the history of oral storytelling being the foundation of how humans relay stories, often across centuries. Count it or not if you want, but it’s tiring having audiobooks, an accessibility tool that benefits everyone, invalidated.

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Anonymous #4 6d

Okay that is not what I was saying at all. People truly can’t multitask. You can think you can, but one thing always will take precedent over another. If you are listening to an audiobook and not doing anything else, then you are retaining more information than if you are listening to one and playing a game. And like I said (in case you didn’t read my comment): it literally does not matter if people want to count them or not.

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Anonymous #4 6d

I was purely talking of semantics and realism of multitasking, nothing to do with the history or oral storytelling.

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Anonymous #8 6d

Semantics are useless when people know what is meant effectively. This argument always stems from and devolves into ableism. We can just not argue what reading is “real” and be a better society for it.

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Anonymous #5 6d

Go against the ‘socially acceptable,’ ‘I’m-better-than-you’ air about books and expand to the ever accessible audiobook and graphic novels

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Anonymous #9 6d

I’m agreeing with btw it IS accessible

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Anonymous #4 6d

Immediately jumping to abelism all the time shows you don’t have enough nuance to realize that maybe I wouldn’t be counting people who cannot read physical books. It’s so sad that you immediately jump to arguments and pointing fingers without having a proper discussion. I’m mentally and physically disabled, so I’m sorry, because I love words and semantics.

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Anonymous #8 6d

It’s so sad that semantics are more important to some people than inclusion. I am also neurodivergent and losing my eyesight. We can all play the anecdote card. Be better.

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Anonymous #4 5d

Please reread my comment and comprehend it at least once to know what I said. Even my og comment says it literally doesn’t matter and it’s my preference. Why are you trying to force your way of thinking onto me?

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Anonymous #8 5d

A way of thinking has to be an opinion. Scientific studies on reading vs listening retention show that you can in fact get just as much out of audiobooks. It doesn’t matter if someone is driving or cooking or crafting while doing it either. And not “counting people who cannot read physical books” is kind of othering. We don’t need to announce who we think can use them with or without them counting. You literally could have just stopped at it’s your preference.

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Anonymous #4 5d

Y’all, I posted this 2 days ago, let it go or take it to DMs, please

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Anonymous #8 5d

But anyway. This is going nowhere. You started out by saying people who are doing other tasks aren’t paying enough attention. I don’t think you understand what invalidating means. And you don’t know everyone in the world’s multitasking capabilities. Do whatever you want for yourself. But leave other people out of it.

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Anonymous OP 5d

You started a conversation that inherently involves discourse, discourse that regularly gets toxic in this community (last year a person said BRAILLE reading doesn’t count). You have the ability to mute the thread.

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Anonymous #4 5d

This is my last comment because I’ll respect the OP (sorry OP for arguing with this person who can’t seem to understand a different POV). There are a lot of studies on how multitasking lowers retention. People just can’t do it as well as we wish, which sucks, but it’s fine. Audiobooks are a great way to get information and to listen to stories. Count them or don’t if you want. It’s not that hard to respect others. This is wild😭🫪

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Anonymous #8 5d

Yeah it’s not hard to respect others without saying they aren’t paying enough attention! You’re so right 🤪🙄

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