
Some of yall think that we are talking about basic necessities yall do like go to shower and stuff but for ppl in the dorm rooms like me, do not turn on all the lights and blinds then opening and shutting drawers loud asl then slamming the door when coming and going or talking on the phone or watching a video while getting ready
Entitled would be my roommate this school year. Ear plugs exist and I use them whenever her or my past roommates were loud at night. All the bills are in my name, I buy all the cleaning supplies, and Iām the only one who cleans majority of the apartments Iāve lived in so idgaf.
wait lowk this is reasonable. like if someone woke me up in the morning due to normal breakfast making noises I wouldnāt be upset. I had a conversation with a roommate once asking him to try to not be so constantly in and out of the room in the mornings, but I wouldāve never told him to stop making coffee and going about his day. sometimes living with people means getting woken up.
Respectfully, I think majority of people can agree that regular human waking are hours are during sunlight hours. Why does the body begin to calm down in the dark? Why are circadian rhythms a thing? Personally I do not think the majority should cater to the minority in this given case. Naturally you should be understanding if it is insomnia or a person who works night shifts, but it is not my obligation to be quiet after around 7-8am imo. Also smoothies from night before arenāt as great.
You are conflating. Letās not talk of time but daylight and night time. I say it is ok to blast music (within norm, because living with someone is one thing, disturbing whole neighborhood is another) while it is daytime and sun is out. But 11pm is unequivocally no matter time of year. Naturally there are fringe cases (north pole, some places during winter only get sunlight starting later like 10am). But I would say your example is unfit logically to the comment above.
Iām SO glad you brought up biology because human evolution (and evolution in general) is actually a special interest of mine! Have you ever heard of chronotypes? We literally EVOLVED to have some people be night owls and other be early birds. It wasnāt safe for the entire tribe to be asleep at once, so half of us are BIOLOGICALLY PROGRAMMED to stay up late. Donāt fucking take science out of context to fit your narrative when you donāt even have the basic facts correct š¤¦
I highly doubt all people who claim to be night owls are like this. Also, no need to be rude. It is also not a narrative but my own opinion. I am open to learning, but your style of discourse is highly antipathetic to genuine discussion I am trying to have here. Regardless of biology, human society is daylight based. And even then, I would love to read more on subject matter, could you provide reputable sources I can look at?
Also, just because some people might have this natural ānight owlā thing does not mean my entire point is incorrect. So your statement of ābasic factsā being incorrect is not true and overly aggressive. I hope you have a nice day and get in a better mood. Sidechat comment threads are definitely not a reason to get upset! :)
It is not your obligation, but it sure as hell is an asshole move to turn on a loud ass blender at 7am while you are aware your roommate is sleeping. How selfish and unempatheitc do you have to be to not be quiet while others are asleep? Iām quiet when my roommates go to bed early, and take extra care not to wake them. Why? Because I have empathy. Iām sure as hell not turning on a blender at while theyāre asleep at 9pm. It doesnāt matter if thatās a reasonable hour to be awake.
Those things you claimed were incorrect, though. You said "I think majority of people can agree that regular human waking are hours are during sunlight hours. Why does the body begin to calm down in the dark? Why are circadian rhythms a thing? Personally I do not think the majority should cater to the minority in this given caseā which is factually incorrect, as 15 just explained to you.
The discussion here is not what is empathetic or not though. Some people have more empathy than others. Also you cherry picked, because the smoothie example is not the sole one in this thread. What IS ābeing considerateā? Is it not turning on the lights? Is it tip toeing? What if a smoothie is your pre established routine for years? I am sure people can work these things out. But empathy does not OBLIGATE one to accomodate another person. Alsoāroommate, does it imply a shared room? ā!
How does 15 explain exactly that most of society is NOT daylight oriented? Just because a fraction of a group of people might not be does not prove the fact wrong. But regardless, I think it is enough of sidechat for me today, I do not see enough of value for me to try to convince you to when you seem to be set in your ways. I hope you have a good one and begin to critically think about things!
Agreed, but for some reason many in this thread are headstrong on defending being āempatheticā and letting people sleep. While I think being considerate is good, for me it means not playing music loudly, but my daily functionsāsuch as cooking or cleaningāare alas non negotiable. Again, majority>minority kinda thing, it is v democratic ig
I think you are right in the situation. In this situation you are not obligated to be the accommodating one. If a smoothie is what you want/eat, then it is what u can have! Besides, any sort of cooking produces noise. This thread makes me think that majority of people leaving comments just want to be accommodated but do nothing in return. Also it is very case by case basis, but I would say the default goes to the daylight folk/early birds.
Yes, all of those things are being considerate. Just don't purposely make loud noises while your roommate is sleeping, and you're fine. The amount of rooms doesn't really matter? If it's loud enough to wake the roommate up every morning, then I just wouldn't do it. That's all. I'd make my smoothie the night before like a considerate person
Itās not a small fraction, a large number of people are not built to wake up at 7am, and are instead built to be up in the late night. You said āa majority of people can agree that regular human waking are hours are during sunlight hoursā. That is incorrect. Regardless of any of that, being respectful of people who are sleeping is not a crazy concept. Even if people who sleep past 7am were the minority, which they are not, itās still rude to wake them with a blender
āThis thread makes me think that majority of people leaving comments just want to be accommodated but do nothing in return.ā After most people in this comment section have expressed that they are careful to be quiet for those who go to sleep early. āAlso it is very case by case basis, but I would say the default goes to the daylight folk/early birds.ā Why would you say that? Do you have anything to back that up, or is that just because it suits you better?
You clearly never had a smoothie like that:)) And I already made my points prior, and I do not fancy repeating myself. You are clearly favoring one side, creating bad faith equivalences and are unwilling to have a proper discussion. If I were living next to you Iād make a smoothie twice a day. Now, I bid thee a good day, enough of internet nonsense for meee
What did I say in bad faith? Sleeping is a human necessity, a smoothie at 7am is not. That is true. Different people have different sleep needs, and not everyone is built to wake up at 7am. If Iām not blending a smoothie or doing other loud activities at night while my roommates are sleeping, I expect them to do the same while Iām asleep in early morning. Why would you choose to purposely make unnecessary loud noise to wake a sleeping roommate? That seems like an issue you need to figure out
In a roommate situation, sacrifices will have to be made. Sleep is very important for humans. You do not need your smoothie at 7am to survive. Have something else if a frozen smoothie from the night before isnāt good enough for you. You donāt need the blender going in the early morning while your roommates are sleeping, in the same way Iām not making microwave popcorn or watching tv while my roommates sleep. We all have to make sacrifices to be respectful of others in shared living situations.