Anonymous #1 2w

Supply and demand is intro to Econ level thinking. I’ll admit you could see some change in decades to maybe a century from now if cultural AND political changes cut meat consumption per capita rather than a small minority (vegans) opting out completely.

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Anonymous #1 2w

There just aren’t enough vegan/vegetarian people to affect the supply and demand curve whatsoever. I have an animal science degree and the curve changes through the seasons and a select few people unfortunately won’t change that

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Anonymous #3 2w

if you look at a curve it’s not gonna look different lol. but, in reality, there’s still a huge amount of waste not being produced anymore bc of it. 1% of a population is still thousands or millions of people

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Anonymous #2 2w

You’ve never heard of vegetarians? The number of people who identify as vegitarian and vegan are on the rise, it doesn’t take a century for that to affect markets. Also one person cutting out meat entirely is the same market effect as a few people eating a bit less meat, not sure I get your claim there. Also on a moral level there is value to not supporting companies and industries that torture animals.

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Anonymous #1 2w

But ultimately your comment is not original, there’s always gonna be people like you. ‘We shouldn’t work to create change because it’s useless to try’. That’s always been the justification for engaging in behavior that you know is immoral. You likely feel bad that you incentivize companies to torture animals more intelligent than your dog, yet you view yourself as a good person so you gotta come up with a reason as to why not eating meat won’t help anything.

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Anonymous #3 2w

Maybe stick to animal science and not economics. If you study animal science then you should know how abhorrent our factory farming system is

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Anonymous #4 2w

This is a good sentiment, but it’s not reality. Many markets are actually always in a surplus. One that recently got more light casted on it is alcohol. Something as existential to existence as eating meat isn’t something that would decline meaningfully in our society unless complete political and cultural change all over the world. Being 200% honest. We aren’t even past making the concept of race politically divisive. Agriculture is an entire industry billions of dollars with contracts and

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Anonymous #4 2w

Billions of dollars in surplus that goes to many different entities, business, etc.

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Anonymous #2 2w

My comment posted below for some reason

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Anonymous #1 2w

Pls reread my comment bro lmao

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Anonymous #2 2w

I just did and my response is unchanged 😅 what are you talking about with respect to race and how is that at all applicable?

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Anonymous #1 2w

I’m saying this issue is much more complex culturally, economically, and politically. I said eating meat is existential to life because my brother in Christ we’ve been doing it since the dawn of man. I mentioned race because of u truly think this meat eating “issue” is going to change by any meaning end then you’re naive. The concept of not killing someone over skin color, religion, ethnicity is something we still can not get over.

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Anonymous #1 2w

I truly do not feel like explaining in anymore detail that consumer shifts in agriculture are absorbed by the government, subsidies, exportation, etc. You can look it up yourself if you truly care about the issue. Again the sentiment is understandable but thinking it’s just a simple supply demand thing overly simplifies a far too complex situation

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Anonymous #2 2w

Some groups of humans have been eating some amount of meat, and sometimes none, since the dawn of time. Our extreme overconsumption of meat in America (meat as a part of every meal) is what’s new.

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Anonymous #1 2w

What has existed since the dawn of time is the purchasing power of individuals being used to affect markets. One person won’t create change but many people can, this works for vegetarians just like it works for people who want more non dairy milk options or more low sugar sodas. I think you’re doing a lot of handwaving as a reason why common sense shouldn’t apply ‘Markets are too complex, we can’t solve racism so how can we solve this…etc’.

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Anonymous #1 2w

Not purchasing goods that were unethically produced is pretty simple, this idea has existed as long as markets have. Even if immediate market affects aren’t obvious, you know for a fact that you yourself are one more person not funding this mistreatment of intelligent animals and that itself matters.

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Anonymous #1 2w

And you’re conflating, again, simple overconsumption with real life observable (you point this out) cultural shifts. Yes purchasing power of an individual (millions) can hurt private business sectors. This isn’t something that would work the same way. So again, yes we hear you saying the power of friendship is what can help us but it falls short on the actual leaps and bounds society would have to jump to tackle the real complexity.

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Anonymous #1 2w

Brother we already addressed this. Consumption does NOT change the decades of contracts within agriculture the breeds years in advance, export commitments, slaughter house capacity, the shift from a few million or less ppl getting shifted to trade and inventory... Your graph shows percentages of individuals who choice to self identify as vegetarian and vegan and the age group was 8 yrs old to 17 years old I found and can link the study the sample size was 2889..not structural change

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Anonymous #2 2w

I’m saying it’s illustrative of the larger trend, especially since younger people are increasingly going in this direction. And again, even if there isn’t any effect now, that’s not a reason to say that being vegetarian isn’t productive if you care about reducing animal cruelty. Every movement has to start somewhere and every movement has its naysayers who say it’s better to just not try at all.

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Anonymous #1 2w

There’s also countless health benefits to not eating meat, and that’s besides the moral peace that comes with knowing that you aren’t bankrolling this mistreatment of animals

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Anonymous #1 2w

Bro how the hell did a single vegan meme cause World War YikYak bro??💀💀

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Anonymous OP 2w

I get tired of vegitarian/vegan slander and I’m bored 😅

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