
It’s not a fee. It’s a deposit of either $5,000, $10,000, or $15,000 which is decided by a U.S. Consular Officer. You get your money back for leaving the U.S. on or before the end of your visa. It was put in place for 50 countries with the highest rates of overstaying their visa to ensure that they leave before or when it is up.
most of the WC headlines have just been highlighting how xenophobic the US is becoming, sure there’s been “number go up” success financially, but the impact on our standing in the world has become “we only want the *right* kind of people coming in” and we get to do this dance all over again for the olympics in 2 years
9 said that the world cup had been a success, i replied that it may have been a success *financially* but its been highlighting a lot of the uglier parts of our society and government *politically* with who we’ve rejected entry to or been hostile toward (iran, somalia, egypt, etc)
Yeah I can read man. I’mmm saying that besides the fact that’s not how you use that phrase “number go up”, or at least it’s a clunky, unconventional way to use it, and besides the fact that literally applies to every World Cup and every nation who hosts it, You’re just saying a whole bunch of nothing and claiming it’s somehow highlighting some xenophobia and connecting it to politics and it’s ridiculous and silly and doesn’t make any sense. And the whackos here upvote it in droves even if hardl
“Making the US a shit ton of money” 🤦🙄 who cares. Is that a problem? And besides, not exactly. It makes FIFA money. Yeah it’s like a non trivial boost to the US economy but on the whole, it’s completely negligible to the US economy and hardly a drop in the bucket. Nobody would notice if it weren’t here It seems to me this was barely a coherent thought, and that you just had a destination you wanted to go which was complaining about the US as a nation on the whole and insulting and complaining a
about the current administration. Honestly, to me, like the OP, it just sounds like hardly a coherent thought. These 3 things barely have anything to do with each other, The World Cup, it’s financial effect on the host country and the immigration policies of the US or US politics. You guys look for any opportunity to complain and arrive at the destination you want. It doesn’t even matter to most of you if you’re upvoting non sequitur ramble as long as it aligns with how you feel emotionally and
Yeah, let’s rely on Marco Rubio, that always works out… you can’t act like this is normal for anywhere in the world because, spoiler, it isn’t. We’re hosting a world event, and customs isn’t nearly as incompetent as people believe when they FLY IN to the US. The primary issue is with the southern border, and instead of enforcing regulations there our President sends the National Guard to MINNESOTA? How dense can you be?
No it hasn’t. I don’t really want to have to take the time to explain why you’re wrong but it seems I’m going to have to bc you’re either being purposefully ignorant bc you feel a certain way emotionally and politically about what I said, or you’re actually genuinely struggling to understand the complete picture. Before I take the time writing this out however, I want to stress how annoying and stressful it is that you guys do this stuff and how I shouldn’t have to explain stuff that I’m pretty
Also like, can one of you tell me why we’re even talking about this as if the US making money or hosting the world cup is a bad thing. It’s so bizarre and surreal. Like why do I even have to address this, it’s weird Even if we took your 19 billion figure, (and I’m pretty sure the actual estimates are 11 - 17 billion in total economic activity related to the WC), compared to the US GDP, that is 0.06 %. For scale, imagine if you had a salary of $ 100,000 and you got a 0.06 % raise. Do you know ho
how much your raise would be? $60 dollars. Now that we’ve established that, let’s talk about Qatar, they hosted the last world cup. Their government and FIFA estimated that they would have about the same, $ 17 billion of value added to their economy as a result of it. Since that WC already happened, we actually know the numbers and how much they spent and made on it. In revenue, $ 1.56 Billion. Not profit, revenue. They probably actually lost money overall considering they spent billions buil
building a stadium just for the WC. $ 220 billion of expenditures in total for Qatar’s government to host the WC. Brazil spent 15 billion In expenditures when they hosted. Russia spent 11 billion. The US doesn’t have to build anything new, they’ll just use existing facilities. But hopefully that helps illustrate some of the reason why you can’t just spit out that number and take it out of context. That (11, 17 - ) 19 billion number is not profit or money sitting in a bank account. FIFA took in
many countries, such as Australia have had similar visa bonds, usually through visas granted under family sponsorship (w refunded bond costs extremely similar to the US). Regardless, illegal immigration as a whole is a large issue in the US whether you want to admit it or not (& it affects the healthcare and housing crises as well). obviously the southern border is the focus for illegal entrants but when u host a WC with 100s of thousands visiting, visa overstays are a MAJOR concern.
if there is a common trend of specific countries’ citizens overstaying their US visas it is not racist to enforce preventative measures like visa bonds. that being said I think 10-15k is a lot for any person whereas 5k is a lot but more reasonable considering it gets returned as long as you return on time.
How are there so many people that upvote this crazy stuff. Where do you all come from. It’s so bizarre that everyone on online forums like reddit and yik yak are always so radically leftist yet when you consider the entirety of the population that’s not the case. Why are radical democrats always so abundant within these online forums
I can’t speak to your Internet experience. Mine has lots of communists in it because this is cultivated and frankly difficult involving having to sort through a lot of things that aren’t that, but it’s worth it because I want to be around people that I recognize as part of the same community as me. Suffice to say, MLK was right and I hate Democrats more than you do.