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Being undocumented is a civil offense, not a crime. Underage drinking on the other hand, something a lot of college students have done, is an actual crime 😭 Yet ppl care more about one than the other, I wonder why 🤔
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Anonymous 4w

Being undocumented itself isn’t a crime, it’s how you are undocumented and in the country that leads to the level of the crime. Like you were Amish and never documented? Legal. You were here on a visa and overstayed? Civil offense. You got smuggled into the country? Criminal offense.

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Anonymous 4w

Uh racism and classism and all the isms actually. Laws don’t really apply to people in power. That’s how you get Hunter Bidens, corrupt cops and cities, mafias, etc etc. I remember something about a high end restaurant in DC (where congressmen, elites would go) where cocaine use was basically everywhere

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Anonymous 3w

Underage drinking and illegal immigration are such massively different types of crimes. It is absurd to act like they are the same.

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Anonymous replying to -> mother_russia 4w

Ultimately I think how we decide “punishment” should be less about how they got in and more about the reason they came here and how long they have been here. If this is someone who has been residing in the USA for a year or two and has a history of crime? Yeah that’s fair to deport. If this is someone who has been here for 5+ years and no notable crimes (or if they are in need of asylum regardless of how long they have been here)? No deportation.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 4w

Politics as a rule is about cheating / exploiting gray areas to get elected. The system is beyond rigged to allow this to happen. Again, laws are restrictions used by the powerful to control the powerless. The powerful can decide to operate according to those restrictions if they want, but they don’t. Foucault had all this written out like a century ago

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 3w

What about drinking and driving? That’s basically as common

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 3w

Yeah so one’s a personal mistake, the other’s often about survival. People cross borders to work, flee violence, or feed their families, not to party.

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Anonymous 3w

Mexico is “perfectly fine”?? Migrants face cartel violence, kidnappings, and discrimination like please be serious

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Anonymous 3w

They’re fleeing violence, not looking for handouts. Dangerous crossings aren’t a choice, they’re forced to by the lack of safe, legal options.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 3w

The issue isn’t people wanting a better life. It’s them hurting the people in the country they move to. It’s simple facts: immigrants commit more violent crime, they are a massive economic burden, they lower wages and raising housing costs.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 3w

By definition they are looking for handouts by coming here. They are moving to a country where they will be an economic burden and are not welcomed. They are not staying and helping their country because if they were a valuable asset they would be doing so.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

Yes and I hate drunk drivers about as much as I hate illegal immigrants.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 3w

They contribute by working and paying taxes and commit less crime than citizens, your comments are clear rage-baiting.

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Anonymous 3w

The focus on Latin America here is telling: this is about brown people, not danger or legality. Yikes.

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Anonymous 3w

Self-identification as white is irrelevant. Most undocumented immigrants are from latin american, and yet research shows they contribute and commit fewer crimes than citizens.

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Anonymous 3w

So illegal entry only matters when the people aren’t white? Okay.

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Anonymous 3w

You focus on “illegal entry,” but many Latin American migrants are Indigenous descended, more native to the americas than the settlers who stole the land.

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Anonymous 3w

I’m fully Native, and many Latin Americans have Indigenous roots. Saying it doesn’t exist is false.

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Anonymous 3w

DUH lmao those Indigenous roots comingled with colonizers, that’s literally how ancestry works.

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Anonymous 3w

Indigenous ancestry doesn’t grant rights, but colonizers acted freely and now migrants are punished….irony much?

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Anonymous 3w

Even if an American would be deported elsewhere, colonizers broke every law here and stole everything from OUR land. Migrants fleeing danger aren’t the same.

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