Anonymous #3 1d

And as such the Christian Bible defines a life as beginning at birth so please stop harassing women and pray to your god instead.

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Anonymous OP 1d

I haven’t harassed anyone. And idgaf about the bible. I care about human beings and they don’t deserve to be murdered.

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Find god. Abortion is not murder.

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Anonymous OP 1d

You need to find god if you think abortion isn’t murder. How does life begin at birth when the heartbeat starts months before birth?

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Anonymous #3 1d

And yet you don’t even believe in god. My god (which built this universe and you my guy) says that life begins at birth. I’ve found good. It’s you that needs to find god

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Anonymous OP 1d

You’re making assumptions now. I never said I was an atheist. God would not want you to exterminate your own child.

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Anonymous #3 1d

Exactly. Your child that is born. Before that your said child is not autonomous, it cannot leave your body at will and it cannot think or act for itself. Why don’t you stop worrying about what women do with their own bodies and volunteer at a homeless shelter (something god would approve of). Your views are both immoral and unattractive.

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Anonymous OP 1d

Your view is the immoral one because you justify murder. Your child cannot think or act for itself even after birth either. Even after it’s born it still needs people to feed and take care of it.

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Anonymous #3 1d

There’s also no verse in the bible that explicitly says that life begins at birth so once again you’re wrong.

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Anonymous #3 1d

Yes it can. It can communicate needs for food, water, likes and dislikes. It is an autonomous being. Your view sees a group of cells as a human which means it’s also be immoral to kill any animal and even bacteria. A fetus is a fucking parasite until born by definition and if a woman lets her body nourish it to become a human being, that’s out of the goodness of her heart. Your view incorrectly classifies a bunch of cells as automatically human and denies a woman bodily autonomy. Immoral asf

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Anonymous OP 1d

Yes Human beings are groups of cells??? Hello??? A human fetus is not a parasite that is a disgusting and immoral thing to say. You are literally justifying aborting women from existing before they even have a chance to live so you clearly don’t value their autonomy as much as you think you do.

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Anonymous #3 1d

It is 100% scientifically a parasite. Also the Bible does not mention when life starts, however the magic of being by god is always related to the birth so by saying life begins at conception, you are injecting your own desires and agenda into the Bible.

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Anonymous OP 1d

Everything I’ve just read from you here is incorrect. The Bible absolutely does NOT define life as beginning at birth, and if you think it does then I want you to give me the exact verse where it does. Secondly, a fetus does NOT meet the definition of a parasite because by the definition of parasite a fetus can never be considered that due to it being of the same species. You cannot be Christian and pro-choice, that’s an oxymoron

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Anonymous #4 1d

Yes I 100% can be Christian and support the autonomy and rights of living beings which again begin at birth. You are the one who for some reason seems to care so much about what women do with their own bodies.

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Anonymous OP 1d

Injecting my desires? I don’t even desire women getting pregnant and having to go through that 9 month process. If it were up to me you could just poof a baby out of thin air and go from there. I don’t desire life to begin at conception at all. That’s just where it begins, scientifically, where you or I like it or not.

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Anonymous OP 1d

Then answer me this, if Mary suddenly decided that she didn’t want to carry Jesus in her womb anymore, should she have been able to abort him?

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Anonymous #4 1d

100% she would have. But god chose a woman who was willing to give her body up to birth the new lord. It was a consensual, purposeful choice. Not a non consensual choice with massive health penalties

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Anonymous OP 1d

Plus god 100% supports abortions. Go wrestle with numbers 5:27 if you want evident.

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Anonymous OP 1d

This right here shows me you have no idea what you’re talking about. That verse has nothing to do with abortion, but rather infertility (with some versions like NIV using the word “miscarry”). So no, the Bible, once again, does NOT justify abortion

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Anonymous #4 1d

It talks about drinking poison to cause a stillbirth. That’s abortion my friend.

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Anonymous OP 1d

The acceptance to pregnancy was a consensual choice, yes, which causes a huge difference. Thank goodness she chose not to abort him so that my Lord and Savior wasn’t killed prematurely right? It’s also said that when Mary, pregnant with Jesus, goes to visit Elizabeth, who is pregnant with John The Baptist, that John LEAPS inside the womb at the recognition of Jesus inside Mary’s womb. How does that happen if John nor Jesus are not alive until birth?

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Anonymous OP 1d

Poison?? It’s literally water with dust from the tabernacle floor. There is no poison involved. Have you actually read that passage at all? And no stillbirth is directly caused by this. ESV says “may your womb swell” and NIV says “may your womb miscarry” which means to cause infertility and the inability to carry children

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Anonymous #3 1d

being christian and thinking women should risk dying to give birth is crazyyyy ngl.

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Anonymous #5 1d

getting an abortion is also a huge risk 🤦‍♂️

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Anonymous #3 21h

It is only when stupid entitled individuals want to make women’s healthcare almost nonexistent so that the best methods to safely carry out an abortion aren’t used.

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Anonymous #3 18h

umm how 😭 this is like saying heart surgery is a huge risk so you shouldn’t get it and just die instead like what

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Anonymous #5 18h

terrible analogy bud heart surgery doesn’t prevent life from being born

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Anonymous #3 17h

It is not ethical to prioritize life that doesn’t exist yet over life that does. As I said children are only to exist with the CONSENT of the woman to DONATE her body for 9 months to create a life. If within that process, her body may not be able to support both her and the life she’s creating or she withdraws consent for any other reason, all MUST respect her decision

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Anonymous OP 17h

Once a baby is born, her body is no longer REQUIRED to live and caretaking can occur from anyone since that baby is fully anonymous.

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Anonymous #3 17h

yes because if i am pregnant and get an abortion instead of having both me and my child die that’s preventing life from being born. yall r so dumb oml 😭

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Anonymous OP 17h

The life begins to exist at conception btw. Science does not agree with you, and neither does the Bible (which I notice you aren’t talking about anymore)

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Anonymous #4 17h

I told you that god supports abortion “creating a miscarriage” is abortion. I cannot engage in biblical stories further if you cannot understand the words spoken to you.

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Anonymous OP 17h

And also scientifically a baby cannot survive on its own without being attached to someone else’s body until birth. Therefore it is not autonomous and cannot make its own decisions.

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Anonymous OP 16h

I really need you to go read the actual passage you are talking about. Why would God support the killing of innocent human beings? Do you believe that all human beings are made in His image? Because if you do then you should believe that because of that, all human beings have inherent value. And you are taking that value away by killing them inside the womb

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Anonymous OP 16h

This is a terrible argument because neither can a newborn

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Anonymous #4 16h

God be like slayyyyyy flooding the entire earth except for two of every animal that a guy somehow fit into one boat but boooo health care

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Anonymous #5 15h

Keyword is “innocent” human beings. Murder is not healthcare

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Anonymous #4 14h

You have a very limited perspective being a man. You will never have to grow a kid and you can stick your dick in any woman without consequence. And if you are this passionate about unborn non living cells, you should be equally passionate about war, destruction of the environment, g*n violence etc.

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Anonymous OP 14h

And you’d be equally passionate about women being k*lled by pregnancy, rxpe, and things carried out non consensually

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Anonymous OP 14h

Nice assumption of my gender. And who said I wasn’t? Now you’re just deflecting

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Anonymous #5 10h

you have the audacity to call others dumb when you’re just willfully obtuse. what percent of abortions are actually necessary to save the mothers life? its around .3%, that’s 3 out of 1,000 abortions. even if we were to include all physical health concerns, that only makes up around 2.2% of abortions. so 97.8% of abortions that occur the women’s health is perfectly normal

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Anonymous #3 10h

Ok so add rxpe to that stat. What do u get?

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Anonymous OP 10h

I never said anything about prioritizing life that doesn’t exist over life that doesn’t. If her body truly isn’t able to support her and the life she’s creating then I fully understand her getting an abortion. However, that is not the case the vast majority of abortions…

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Anonymous OP 10h

The exact percentage is difficult to determine because most national abortion data do not record the reason for abortion but the available evidence suggests that around 1% of abortions are sought because the pregnancy resulted from rape, with incest accounting for roughly another 0.5%.

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Anonymous #4 10h

so the giraffes and shit that he killed weren’t innocent??😭

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Anonymous #3 10h

i’m honestly not sure where u got that stat but ya the percentage is low but still your argument is stupid. so 3/1000 women who want to be mothers should die to save the unborn children of people who don’t even want to be parents..? like do u not get the entire reason i support legal abortion is because i want to be a mother without risking my own life

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Anonymous #5 9h

I never said mothers should die to save their unborn children? wtf? I get why you support legal abortion but it’s still an evil action that ends the life of a human being.

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