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people getting mad at sabrina and calling her anti feminist piss me off like i literally do not give one fuck about “man’s best friend” it’s not anti feminist bc it’s CONSENSUAL and ON HER OWN TERMS.
Why is Gen Z returning America to a sexually repressive culture the likes of what haven't been seen since boomers? Just look at all the reactions to Sabrina Carpenter
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Anonymous 5w

It’s like yall don’t believe that women can choose to be kinky or think that if a woman is being sexual it must be because she’s being forced into it or doesn’t know any better.

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Anonymous 5w

I never even thought that her album cover was anti-feminist literally bc in all her of mvs she kills a man and I found it as a sarcastic/ironic photo

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Anonymous 4w

OP, it’s not *automatically sexist* for someone to apply some media criticism to her work. Her work DOES tend to portray women in submissive positions, like her infamous album cover. Kink is not “above criticism” just because it’s a choice a woman is making. All of this is subject to critique, especially if it’s a powerful, straight cis White woman who is in a position of influence.

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Anonymous 4w

As a woman, I really wish sexuality was more normalized. I think that her songs are fun and sex positive. I’m tired of women getting judged for being even a little bit sexual.

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Anonymous 5w

The fact that people are freaking out this much over the most basic dom/sub dynamics is baffling

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Anonymous 5w

yeah agreed but also people don't realize that some off the stuff she does is not that serious like her music is maybe a lil more sexual but also in every music video she basically kills a guy and also if a man does the same it's considered tuff

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Anonymous 5w

We rly regressed in terms of letting women have sexual attraction and urges tbh

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Anonymous 5w

I have no idea what you’re talking about as I don’t really follow her. However, I do want to say that something that ticks me off about her from stuff I’ve randomly seen is that her “sexuality ” seems forced meaning it feels like she forces herself to act that way and it doesn’t seem like it comes naturally from her like it does for others. I feel like she tries so hard to be this “sexy” sexual bombshell but she does not have the personality for it and should stop forcing it. I feel like she

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

and i don’t gaf about the children who listen to her or her “setting a bad example” SHE IS NOT ADVERTISING TO CHILDREN. SHES NOT A CHILD’s ARTIST. how come nobody gets mad at cardi b or doja cat for singing dirty songs?? It’s not sabrina’s fault in any way if children listen to her or put her as their role model. it’s their parents fault.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5w

yeah exactly i think most people think that cause she was a child actor but what they don't realize is that she's not a child anymore and that she also doesn't have to make music for children...

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 5w

yeah literally

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 5w

Feels she has to act that way for some reason to sell but it’s just cringey tbh. She clearly has low self esteem with the way she wants to overly sexualize herself just to sell and had to make a song begging her man not to disappoint her like girl please 😂 grow some self love for all our sakes 🙃😂 I feel like she gives off the vibes that would be given if someone like taylor swift all of a sudden started acting fake and sexualized every single thing- it would be false and forced.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 4w

I didn’t deny she was portraying women in submissive positions. She IS doing that. And I didn’t say kink was above criticism. I said it’s wrong for people to call her anti-feminist bc she engages in kink culture.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 4w

and I didn’t call critiquing her sexist. I said it’s sexist to assume she is anti-feminist just because she engages in kink culture

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 4w

i have no clue why you are talking about me thinking things are automatically sexist just because they involve a woman. It's like you didn't read my post.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 4w

this is exactly what i’m talking about. thank you for literally proving the point of my post.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 4w

Heaven forbid a woman attracted to men wants to be attractive to men ig? I’m not gonna say she’s doing anything for feminism but she’s not rly hurting it either. Idk why you feel the need to judge another women when here behavior clearly doesn’t impact you she’s just not to your taste

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

Your post is very short, so of course I read it. Just because it’s “consensual” and “on her terms” does NOT make the IMPACT of her work pro-feminist or even neutral. Her work can and SHOULD be criticized using media criticism, including through a feminist lens, and regardless of whether or not she calls herself “anti-feminist,” her work CAN be labeled as such due to the influence and societal impact it has.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

“People shouldn’t call her anti-feminist”? Well, they can conclude that the result of her work (and the influence and societal impact that it has) is harmful to feminism. It doesn’t matter what she is. Her work (due to her choices) can very much be anti-feminist regardless of what she calls herself.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 4w

Explain then what she’s doing that is anti feminist. I can see how it’s not pro feminism but i genuinely do not see how she harms feminism in any way

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 4w

Her work prompted heteronormative stereotypes and reinforces societal norms with respect to associating women with submissiveness and men with dominance. I’m not here to write you an entire feminist essay critiquing her work typing it on my phone through YikYak, but there are plenty of examples, including her album cover and the way that her work continues to appeal to the male gaze. And by the way, wealthy straight cis White women with influence do have privilege which deserves critique.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 4w

no ist not "harmful to feminism" like to me it seems kinda unfair that a man can take his shirt off whenever he wants and when a woman like sabrina is showing more skin and has sexual lyrics she's getting criticized for it, you wouldn't criticize a man for that...

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 4w

My point is that her work can and should be critiqued using media criticism from a feminist lens. There is a character limit on this app. While I will not be sending an essay to you here, you can find criticism of her work elsewhere.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

You did not read a single thing I wrote. This has nothing to do with skin. Nothing. Read my comment again regarding heteronormativity, submission and dominance, reinforcing stereotypes, etc.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 4w

Does it really reinforce it. Yes stereotypes are harmful but she’s not saying all women are submissive, she’s saying she herself is, if you watch her work and come away thinking all women are like that that’s kind of an issue on your side. I do think women with privilege deserve critique but I don’t think criticizing women for their personal sexual expression is progressive at all. I don’t think Sabrina actually caters to the male gaze, it’s primarily women who love her. But even if she did how

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 4w

Is it wrong for a woman who is attracted to men to want to be attractive to men. That’s nature,

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 4w

men with dominance? she literally kills a man in almost every single one of her music videos, you do know that a lot of what she does is satire... and btw most of her fans are female and she also stands up for trans people for example, so she's not "reinforcing societal norms"

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 4w

I already told you that I am not here to CONVINCE you of the argument due to the character limit. I already told you that I am not going to write you a feminist essay here. My point is that it is perfectly feminist to critique her work. You CAN critique her work using a feminist lens. If you don’t understand this, you are free to read critiques elsewhere.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

Standing up for trans people is the bare minimum. Her having a large female fanbase is also not relevant to how her work can be harmful. She may “kill a man,” but that does not suddenly make the problematic elements that I outlined disappear.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 4w

she’s not promoting stereotypes just by being herself ???? Women are allowed to be submissive and saying they should not publicly be submissive is literally insane.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 4w

and yeah how is her showing herself as submissive harmful to feminism because i literally don’t understand and it sounds like you just have a problem with women not conforming to your view of what women should be??

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

Go and read feminist literature. Her work DOES promote and reinforce stereotypes, and she IS in a position of privilege due to her background (cis, heterosexual, White), wealth (rich), and influence. Choice feminism (“If a woman makes a choice, it shouldn’t be criticized”) is not feminist at all. Go and inform yourself. I am not here to hold your hand through this on YikYak.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

“Being herself” does not excuse her work from feminist critique. You are incredibly misinformed.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 4w

girl i don’t need to be informed. sorry that she’s white and straight and that makes you mad lol. go cry to someone who cares. and fyi, women, no matter what they look like or who they’re attracted to (shocking i know), are allowed to act as sexual as they want. Sabrina isn’t doing anything for anyone besides herself. You clearly have this warped view of feminism where you think all women have to conform to your ideal feminist. Feminism doesn’t just look one way.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

“sorry that she’s white and straight and that makes you mad lol” Oh, did pointing out her privilege trigger your White fragility? Is this the first time you were called out on your privilege? No wonder you’re so blind to the issues with her work. Again, my criticisms of her work have nothing to do with her “being sexual,” but since you can’t seem to read the words I’m writing, you should go read feminist literature. Take the time to read criticisms of Sabrina’s work without being dismissive.

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 4w

but being white and singing about sex doesn't make her anti feminist or did i miss something? like what exactly is she doing that's anti feminist?

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 4w

i’m not interacting with you anymore bc you’re actually just a nut case. bye. i hope you get the help you need one day and i hope you can learn to stop making liberals look bad. stay mad at sabrina for all i care. i promise it’s not affecting her😘

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 4w

Check your privilege and educate yourself with feminist literature. You can take your fragile White feelings and leave if that’s too much for you. :) It’s very obvious that you have little to no understanding about the feminist criticisms that I mentioned. If you want to call yourself a feminist, sweetie, you should probably learn to read essays on this matter. Just saying. :)

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 4w

Don’t let them silence you. Choice feminism is a disease.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 4w

girl what?

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