Ask Women on Sidechat | Okay…I completely understand bashing men (I do it nearly every day), but I wonder if our collective online bashing turns away any would-be allies? I wonder if we’re expecting too much from them, like how yt allies are expected to hate on yts too 🙇🏾‍♀️?

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Ask Women 1w

Okay…I completely understand bashing men (I do it nearly every day), but I wonder if our collective online bashing turns away any would-be allies? I wonder if we’re expecting too much from them, like how yt allies are expected to hate on yts too 🙇🏾‍♀️?

Ask Women 1w

Will y’all jump me if I ask a question about how we’re approaching feminism?

Anonymous 1w

I just feel like it may be a bit reductive to expect them to accept and/or internalize self-hatred to show their allyship. Like instead of seeking equality, we are trying to flip the power dynamic. Does that make sense?

Anonymous 1w

Great take actually and a real breath of fresh air (as a leftist myself)

Anonymous 1w

Misandry bad yes. Most people on here and other media platforms do the bashing of men because it gets interaction. I don't think most of the people that label themselves "feminists" actually understand the aims of feminism and especially don't understand anything beyond second wave feminism, which still clings onto a world/time where women were fighting for basic rights. Issue remains to be the patriarchy and some individuals, not men as a collective.

Anonymous 1w

the men who get it, get it. i’ve never met a man who is truly respectful and supportive of women who gets personally offended by men getting bashed especially online. i’ve made posts complaining about specific types of men and men come in to start defending men when i never said anywhere in my post that it was all men, which tells me that the ppl getting offended are the exact type of man who deserves to get bashed respectfully.

Anonymous 1w

They’ll never understand this, and society will never progress because of it. I appreciate you for realizing though.

Anonymous 1w

You quoted a post with 0 bashing so like ??

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Anonymous

OP 1w

I feel like it causes backlash, similar to the “white pride” shit we’re seeing now (I think the BLM apologists were the last straw lmao). Men will likely (if not already) retaliate for perceived misandry. Feels counter-productive. Equal and opposite reaction type shit

Anonymous

OP 1w

No one is expecting that

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Anonymous

#3 1w

I’m confused

Anonymous

#3 1w

I have certainly encountered the someones expecting that

Anonymous

#3 1w

The only time we react negatively to a post is when it’s disrespectful or sexual lmao. Do you want us to not react that way to nasty posts on here?? Bc it seems like that’s what you are asking of us

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Anonymous

#1 1w

They already jumping me 🥀

Anonymous

OP 1w

Ur confused? I’m confused man

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Anonymous

#3 1w

?? Are you trolling?

Anonymous

OP 1w

See this is the problem, you post on a community meant for questions and if you don’t get the response you wanted you call it “jumping” or “bashing”. There’s a difference between disagreeing and bashing dude

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Anonymous

OP 1w

It seems like you are trolling.

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Anonymous

#3 1w

I am a woman who has already witnessed how this convo can go down bc it is a touchy subject. I’m not a man complaining about being bashed. Key words and emojis could’ve told you that hun

Anonymous

OP 1w

I don’t care what your gender is hun.. point remains the same lol. We only “bash” posts that deserve it.

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Anonymous

OP 1w

So again I will ask you to clarify your point. Do you want us to not be negative towards these men who ask degrading sexual questions?? You want us to tolerate the sexism? Bc that’s what it seems like, if not please clarify

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Anonymous

#3 1w

Okay but like what does that have to do w what I said?

Anonymous 1w

Anonymous

#3 1w

I think you aren’t understanding my point. You think I’m complaining about bashing men on this app specifically when I’m talking in GENERAL. I’m talking about how we’re approaching feminism ? Not how we’re approaching yik yak posts

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Anonymous

#3 1w

Girl go away why are you so mad I’m trying to have discourse not argue 😭

Anonymous

OP 1w

Yeah you quoting a post about “will I be jumped if I ask this question” kinda makes it seem like you are talking about bashing men on this app specifically this community lmao. You gotta clarify babe, thanks 😅

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Anonymous 1w

I don't know what point you're trying to make in regards to anything I said or why you're using a shitty AI summary to try and prove said point ngl

Anonymous

#4 1w

I must be speaking alien here idk I quit

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Anonymous

#3 1w

Especially bc you’re talking about “collective online bashing” and didn’t specify that you mean not on this app lol

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Anonymous

#3 1w

It was my post… I quoted my own post…I don’t think I needed to clarify, I think you needed to make far less assumptions

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Anonymous

OP 1w

You said one thing to me that didn't make sense and posted an AI summary of some statistics on rape and DV without any context of why you're providing them to me and my comment

Anonymous

OP 1w

Girl that was the direct implication😅 you asked a confusing question and received confused answers that’s on you

Anonymous

OP 1w

Are you a troll? Deleting your comments so they can't even be reread to try and make sense of what you were on about?

Anonymous

#4 1w

Oh my god this was a mistake

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Anonymous

OP 1w

I addressed you in good faith and largely agreed with both of your posts and you're only deciding to delete comments to the one person trying to have a discussion and make sense of what you're writing :/

Anonymous

#4 1w

It’s the first thing that pops up on google, don’t let your hatred for AI derail the convo. I thought we were talking about your point that the problem is patriarchy and SOME individuals, not men as a collective..so I showed that as a collective, the stats are pretty bad, so it’s hard not to see it as a men-as-a-collective issue

Anonymous

#4 1w

I deleted the comments bc you didn’t understand so I figured it wasn’t clear and decided to try again! Damn! Since when is taking something back a crime?

Anonymous

OP 1w

People are just so intolerant nowadays and cant appreciate a diff perspective,, good on op for keeping the convo open

Anonymous

OP 1w

You can go to the sources and actually look at studies instead of the AI overview. It isn't purely a hatred of generative AI, it's a hatred of the fact the summaries are often wrong or misinterpret data (all of which is mitigated if you just take a few more seconds to go to the sources).

Anonymous

#4 1w

Aight man we can’t have two convos at once

Anonymous

OP 1w

And as for deleting stuff, just such a weird thing to do when you're seemingly in arguments with other people, leaving those comments up, but instead of just elaborating more on your points, you completely delete them so no one else could ever see them for some reason. Just feels odd if you're trying to have an honest discussion.

Anonymous

#4 1w

Ive already visited the sources, I figured a summary would be better .

Anonymous

#4 1w

What??? i deleted ONE COMMENT bc it WASNT CLEAR

Anonymous

OP 1w

You want to have a serious discussion and yet can't summarize your own statistics to aid whatever point you're trying to make? Lmao have a good one, feels bad that I spent time trying to meaningfully engage with someone for once on here.

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Anonymous

#4 1w

You are so pretentious 😒

Anonymous

OP 1w

Also if anyone reads this, it was three comments deleted :/

Anonymous

#4 1w

now you’re just lying.

Anonymous

OP 1w

Critical thinking is pretentious

Anonymous

#4 1w

I deleted my comment about the stats and the screenshot that came with it. That’s it.