Anonymous #2 1w

What do they say?

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Anonymous #1 1w

Just high key body shaming. It would be one thing if it was just “my preference is tall guys” and move on, preferences are valid. but like for example I dated a short guy and people would be like “you’re too good for him” “ew” “he’s a troll” i did not appreciate that, especially considering im also short

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Anonymous #2 1w

Thank you for sharing. I bet OP still thinks women don’t hate short men. Did you call them out on it?

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Anonymous #1 1w

Im not super great at conflict so I generally just drop anyone who insults my partners for physical things out of my life, but yeah I’ve called it out when people have said particularly ridiculous things

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Anonymous #1 1w

Ofc it’s not all women. Most people I know don’t do this shit. But I am surprised to have met as many as I have who act like this

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Anonymous #2 1w

Right but to outright deny that these sentiments exist amongst women would not only be incorrect but would also brush blatant heightism under the rug.

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Anonymous #1 1w

I agree tbh. Do I think men fixate on it too much and make it out to be a bigger issue than it actually is, yes. But do I also get annoyed by women acting like it doesn’t exist at all, also yes. As a victim many times over of body shaming the way some women I’ve known have talked about my partners really irritates me. People are welcome to preferences, no one should have to date someone they aren’t attracted to. It’s ok there are some body types that we think of as more attractive than others

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Anonymous #2 1w

But it’s not ok how we treat those who don’t meat those ideal body types at all. And I’m tried of girls who will talk and talk about how body shaming is bad then turn around and do iy

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Anonymous #1 1w

No. You’re genuinely an idiot

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Anonymous #3 1w

Actions speak louder than words

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Anonymous #2 1w

Lowkey I think it’s misplaced backlash for misogyny

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Anonymous #4 1w

I actually think basically the opposite, I feel like it’s a continuation of unhealthy patriarchal ideals

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Anonymous #2 1w

I think it’s both

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Anonymous #1 1w

People who are considered conventionally attractive do get away with more bullshit, but it ain’t a gendered phenomenon.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Actions tell us you use your height to excuse your crybaby personality

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Anonymous #5 1w

I don’t believe height should be a conventionally attractive trait since it is something that cannot be changed. Something like BMI, muscle mass or clear skin is a much better indicator of conventionally attractive people.

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Anonymous #3 1w

So if I complain about women treating short men as subhuman I’m a crybaby. Make it make sense lmao

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Anonymous #1 1w

Lots of things can’t be controlled and are still considered attractive Cause that’s what we’re attracted to. I understand it SUCKS to not be the thing that is conventionally attractive, and people do need to get better at not shaming those who don’t fit the standard. But that doesn’t mean people have to stop finding tall attractive

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Anonymous #1 1w

Also Clear skin is also often a genetic thing and hard to control, shockingly BMI also often is. Obviously not as hard to control as height but much more difficult than people make it out to be

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Anonymous #2 1w

It becomes a social issue when the overwhelming majority of women have a height requirement. Dude could look homeless but as long as he’s 6’4, a woman would be into him. Can’t say the same about a guy under 5’8

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Anonymous #2 1w

Not a matter of how hard it is to change. The point was that height cannot be changed unless you get an expensive dangerous surgery. Most people can get a gym membership and some cetaphil

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Anonymous #1 1w

I mean yeah that SUCKS but like. It is what it is you can’t demand people change what they are attracted to that’s not how it works. Also like. Maybe a man can’t look homeless and land a gf at 5’8 but I know for a fact a man can land plenty of of gfs at 5’8

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Anonymous #1 1w

Also idk how to tell you this but cetaphil does not guarantee clear skin. Like I have almost perfect skin 80% of the time, but right before a period? Nothing in the world gonna stop my hormonal acne

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Anonymous #2 1w

Right…but he’s forced to “overcompensate” whereas tall guys need to do the bare minimum

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Anonymous #1 1w

Yep and that sucks. But it’s true for pretty much anyone who doesn’t fit the standard of conventional attraction and that’s many of us. It’s unfortunate but it is what it is. You can’t rly blame people for wanting partners to offer things, and if you don’t have looks to offer, yeah you gotta do other stuff. To be desired you gotta be desirable that’s just kinda reality

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Anonymous #2 1w

I understand…you’re right.I just wish women would approach shorter men more. I’ve seen it happen to all my tall friends idk why I was ever delusional enough to think it would happen to my undesired short ass

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Anonymous #1 1w

Hey I get it. I’m not the kind of girl men find particularly attractive, and it can be hard watching everyone go after my more attractive friends while I get overlooked. But I can’t and don’t resent men for going for the more desirable option to them. There are things I can do to make myself appealing in other ways so I just do that and cope

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Anonymous #2 1w

I feel like it’s different for women tho. Mainly because women are more selective about who they are sexually attracted to. In my experience men are more likely to hook up with a woman who is plus size, tall, etc. whereas women only wanting tall men for both hookups and long term relationships

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Anonymous #1 1w

Cool, I do not want to hook up with people so my point remains the same. The rejection and being overlooked still stings. As to whether guys would hook up with me, i don’t know but I’ve certainly never been shown any direct interest on the front . Also what a shitty response, I was trying to empathize with you man

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Anonymous #2 1w

I’m sorry I wasn’t trying to be inconsiderate, what did I do that was shitty?

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Anonymous #1 1w

No one treats short men as a subhuman you just want to reach and create extremes. It’s a scapegoat for your poor behavior. Bc if it really mattered you wouldn’t complain this much while being misogynistic and a shithead in the process. Bc you can be short and a good person. You just want to be an incel and blame women for your genetics. Which isn’t going to get ppl to like you in fact it’ll make ppl hate you twice as much as you already think they do. So good luck with that

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Anonymous #3 1w

You’re inconsiderate and made shitty generalizations

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Anonymous #3 1w

Tons of short guys with irl experience would disagree. By out right dismissing that, you’re being very ignorant. I don’t care if people on the internet love me or hate me I won’t stop advocating against heightism until I see some progress. Be the change you want to see ✊

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Anonymous #1 1w

Or you can stop being an incel and be the change you want to see in yourself bc no one likes you

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Anonymous #3 1w

And fyi if you didn’t know it’s not bc of your height

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Anonymous #3 1w

Be specific dumbass…which part was a generalization. As far as I can see, it makes sense. Also the comment wasn’t for you so speak when spoke to

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Anonymous #1 1w

Be specific dumbass. The only dumbass here is the incel defending himself for the post that’s clearly taken down

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Anonymous #3 1w

Like I said before in case your stupid brain can’t read, I could give a shit about what people think. You don’t get to deny the existence of heightism especially if you contribute towards it

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Anonymous #3 1w

You still haven’t told me what the generalization was. Maybe read and think before reacting so emotionally, something dumbasses like you are known for.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Still want to be a raging incel online huh? Like I said your height isn’t the reason why no one likes you

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Anonymous #3 1w

For the third time stupid, I’m not here to be liked I want to raise awareness about heightism and double standards. If only you could read, you wouldn’t be a walking advertisement for condoms

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Anonymous #1 1w

That initial post was not raising awareness to anything but was very biased

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Anonymous #1 1w

You wouldn’t raise awareness being an asshole and a misogynist. Please come up with a better excuse

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Anonymous #3 1w

That’s YOUR opinion, if you think my methods are too harsh. I can assure you it’s nowhere as harsh as some of the stuff women have said about short men. You can’t even make a valid point so you resort to name calling.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Some people are born with massive, crooked noses and asymmetrical faces. Some are covered in burn scars and have missing teeth. Some have lazy eyes, bald spots, and weak chins. Some have wrinkles, saggy tits, and grey hair. Do you find them all attractive knowing they can’t be helped?

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Anonymous #5 1w

You’ve got a wide variety of traits some more common than others like saggy tits, grey hair, etc. People shouldn’t be deemed less attractive for these traits but they are largely treatable/easy to hide even if they don’t require lifestyle changes. The other traits are a lot more rare like burn scars and missing teeth. However, being short (under 5’8) is common but when guys wear lifts or lie about their height on dating apps, they are villainized and labeled insecure.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Incel alert: height lengthening surgery. Defensive. Will not change their habits and act clueless to other points. Do not engage further

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Anonymous #3 1w

Cuz spending over a 100k and 2 years to learn how to walk again is an option available to the majority of short men. It’s evident you’re the one who is clueless. You can’t even read properly, illiterate knobheads like you need to be sent back to kindergarten

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Anonymous #1 1w

No one is denying the part after “however,” or deeming heightism fair. You just seem to deem it the least fair phenomenon of all. You’ve yet to show empathy for others who feel lonely/rejected without invalidating them in some way. Like if someone is rejected for a reason other than height, theyre responsible somehow. And if an ugly woman gets a date, she has some unearned privilege. Meanwhile, men who are rejected over height are the only true victims of unfairness in the dating world.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Let me rephrase it then. I’m not trying to imply getting rejected for your height is better or worse than being rejected for any of the reasons you listed. What I am saying tho is that height is the most common physical trait a man is rejected for and that women should be more open minded about this because it’s not something they can change. Not to mention that wanting a large height difference is rooted in patriarchy itself.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Also I have firsthand seen women laughing at short men after rejecting them and it being socially acceptable. Doing the same to a burn victim or a guy laughing about a woman’s saggy boobs is socially unacceptable. This is the double standard I am referring to which is blatant heightism. Not saying we should be laugh at everyone we reject but rather women should hold other women accountable for being heightist.

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Anonymous #1 1w

It’s also socially acceptable to make fun of people for other aspects of their appearance. Whether it’s rare or whether you allege that it can or can’t be helped doesn’t change the unfairness of it or its impacts. Additionally, holding one demographic responsible for YOUR MISERY is a cheap & whiny cop out. Especially when you just called out the patriarchy in the same breath. Prejudice & unfairness based on appearance is a universal thing that everyone, INCLUDING YOU, perpetuates.

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Anonymous #1 1w

You make height an ultimatum. It seems you only want to appeal to women that like tall ppl and are literally generalizing that to all women. Instead of going after the women that clearly do not care. Women are not a monolith. You’re a doormat crybaby incel that’s a woman pleaser when in reality your profile is so awful and personality is so terrible to have a conversation with that women just avoid you altogether

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Anonymous #1 1w

If you want that to change, you can’t just zone in on one specific aspect of it, and then insist that it’s the only thing (that anyone but you) needs to work on.

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Anonymous #3 1w

Your problem is YOU’RE the bird brain. Bc if you think women will immediately ignore everything about someone and immediately drop their own morals over 1 minor thing in today’s society you have to be the most dumb fuck man alive. Women have enough problems to deal with than 1 man’s insecurity about his height. Bc guess what? Plenty of men are short? Do they have just as much failure as you? Possibly. But are they moping about it? No. Bc a lot of men realize things make up for that

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Anonymous #3 1w

I can guarantee you there are men that are your height with very happy relationships so clearly you’re the problem. Bc everyone has a flaw to them that’ll make them in the rejection pile to a specific person. But not everyone has the same check list in what they find attractive. You just have to find that someone

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Anonymous #3 1w

You’ve already showed trouble in being able to read so I hope you get it this time: Speak when spoken to. Also nothing what you said makes any sense grammatically. Please learn English

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Anonymous #1 1w

You also struggle to learn to grow up and be mature and projecting that onto me. So I hope you get it this time: I’m not taking an incel like you seriously to begin with. Please learn English and less misogyny. Bc if you couldn’t read my comment you’re the one with the reading comprehension error

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Anonymous #5 1w

I’m pointing out the double standard when it comes to height. I’d argue that it is not socially acceptable to make fun of burn victims, saggy boobs, etc. height on the other hand is perfectly normal to joke about, mostly because it comes from women at the expense of men. There was a study which concluded that approximately 94% of women will reject a man because he is too short. So yes, with such metrics generalization would be accurate.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Source : Stulp G, Buunka AP, Kurzband R, Verhulst S. 2013. The height of choosiness: mutual mate choice for stature results in suboptimal pair formation for both sexes. Animal Behaviour. 86: 37-46.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Do you have the link

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Anonymous #3 1w

I am being mature. In fact, rejecting a man for his height is an immature act in itself

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Anonymous #1 1w

Not really. Ppl reject ppl for their race, political stance and many other reasons. So you’re really not a victim here you just get rejected like everyone else

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Anonymous #3 1w

I don’t think rejecting someone for something out of their control is the right thing to do. By your train of thought, a majority of women are shallow

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Anonymous #1 1w

Majority of men are also shallow so your point? Ppl can reject for whatever they want to reject by

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Anonymous #3 1w

Nowhere near as shallow as women. Also society caters to women’s shallowness. Why do dating apps have height filters but not one for bra size?

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Anonymous #1 1w

Men statistically are more shallow than women. Considering statistically men have refused women for far more reasons than women have. And that women actually don’t care to that bad of an extent as you make it. You just want women to lower their standards bc women have started to learn self worth and raise them. Men also tend to hold more weight bias, racial bias, and education bias than women

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Anonymous #3 1w

Source?

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Anonymous #3 1w

Also what does having a standard for height have to do with self worth. If you really respected yourself, you wouldn’t mind dating a man shorter than you. If anything, it’s upholding a patriarchal mindset

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Anonymous #5 1w

I’m don’t agree that it’s the only standard that has to change but it is the one that occurs the most and for a trait that is more common that it is rare. (Only about 15% of men are over 6ft)

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Anonymous #1 1w

This is getting exhausting. Okay Imma address the actual issue here: you have trouble dating because you resent the people you’re trying to attract. You assume they’ll unfairly judge you, you act as such, they respond in kind. Resenting women, instead of working on your beliefs & attitude, is a bigger obstacle between you and a healthy relationship than appearance. It probably won’t get through your head rn. But try to remember it when you’re ready to be happy.

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Anonymous #5 1w

It won’t get through his head. He seriously tried arguing me down in DMs and gave me a link to a vague speed dating article. He’s not going to get it. I’d let him stay miserable until he realizes the bigger picture at hand

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Anonymous #5 1w

Bold of you to assume I want a relationship. I’m just looking for casual sex but bc im not tall, I’m not sexually desirable. So I have to lie and say I’m looking for a relationship even when I’m not

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Anonymous #1 1w

You also need to be sufferable to get laid.

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Anonymous #3 1w

You got a source to your claims dummy?

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Anonymous #5 1w

I’m not like this irl I mask it really well

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Anonymous #1 1w

I doubt you ever talk to women irl for that to even matter…

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Anonymous #3 1w

I do unfortunately…shame a lot of them can’t even hold up a basic conversation but that’s a topic for another day. You can keep calling me an incel doesn’t change the fact that I’ve been in relationships before.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Idc that you’ve been in a relationship dude. So that means mope for attention. Please go call your mom

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Anonymous #3 1w

You’re just mad that I refused to entertain you in DMs. Idk if this is the only attention you get in the day but please do better

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Anonymous #3 1w

You seemed to doubt that I interact with people irl so much so that you called me an incel. I think deep down you give a little bit of a shit lmao also if I wanted to keep talking to you I would’ve just sent you another DM, you’re not that special. Maybe special needs tho

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Anonymous #1 1w

Sure buddy I’m not the one coping online. Poor insult execution. 0/10

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Anonymous #3 1w

If anything you’re trying to get me to cope into believing the dumb stuff you said. That stuff is by definition cope

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Anonymous #1 1w

Clearly not well enough if you’re still this bitter about it.

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Anonymous #5 1w

I’m bitter because of double standards and hypocrisy

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