Anonymous #3 5w

That’s not what OP is saying, they’re just pointing out the double standard

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Anonymous #1 5w

There is no double standard in the first place. Men say they want x women say they want y. They are different genders after all. Not to mention women’s definition of “medium ugly” is usually not even an ugly person also it’s not even like the majority of women have said preference

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Anonymous #2 5w

Yeah but I think their point is that no one says they like their women not being 10/10 a little bit ugly and actually prefer it that way idk

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Anonymous #4 5w

probably because some people are uncomfortable with calling the people they’re attracted (or people in general) to “ugly”

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Anonymous #4 5w

Tbf I’ve actually heard multiple people say they prefer mid girls. Mostly online tho so do whatever you want with that information

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Anonymous #3 5w

i've seen data from dating apps showing women are way more likely to swipe on men they rate as not very attractive than men are on women they rate as not very attractive

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Anonymous #7 5w

I would be interested in seeing such a thing if it’s even real

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Anonymous #3 5w

https://youtu.be/BgO25FTwfRI?t=2259 if the time stamp doesn't work skip to 37:40 (the "Debunking the Dating Apps 'Evidence' for Hypergamy" chapter)

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Anonymous #3 5w

This is a snippet from the video of OkCupid data. There's more data that adds a more nuanced view

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Anonymous #7 5w

these are not cited because it's from a video where she cites it herself but this is OkCupid data

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Anonymous #7 5w

Ehhh tbf I’ve seen it go quite the opposite way too. Not to sound like an incel but look into the match.com 80/20 thing

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Anonymous #7 5w

Not sure if you’re aware but that study showed that the women on ok Cupid were pretty much all swiping on the same 20percent of guys. So “less attractive” on their chart is really just a dude who is like a 7/10+ and more attractive is a model out of their league. Also these charts are related to messaging and have no correlation with them swiping on less attractive men lmao

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Anonymous #1 5w

i suggest you and #3 actually watch the video

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Anonymous #3 5w

that's not how any of that works lol also you're right, it was about messaging, which only strengthens my point. a message is a lot more commitment to getting to know somebody than a swipe. there's actual effort there

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Anonymous #1 5w

i'm aware of the "80/20 thing" and it's real name - the pareto principle. i seriously doubt you actually understand what it is though based on you citing it here in relation to attractiveness

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Anonymous #7 5w

It doesn’t help your point because “less attractive” is relative to people they already found attractive enough to swipe on. Again that same study mentions the women were giving 80% of their swipes on the same 20% of users. This alone means that “less attractive” is basically just less attractive within the already top 20 percent.

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Anonymous #3 5w

yes it does. messaging a user is a significantly stronger indicator of attraction than swiping. are you seriously implying swiping is more indicative of attraction?

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Anonymous #3 5w

it said they were swiping on the same small portion - but that Does Note mean the remaining were rated "unattractive". they could be incompatible, we're never shown to each other (you only ever see a small fraction of users), among MANY other variables. you're making big and baseless assumptions

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Anonymous #3 5w

what the data says is that women give time to men they rate as less attractive way more often than men. it does not say that women were only swiping on the most attractive men to begin with

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Anonymous #7 5w

If you’ve never used an app just say that. You can only message users you match with. Read the study. Before you comment any further

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Anonymous #3 5w

You can only message matches but you don't HAVE to. PLENTY of people match and never message. Messages are OBVIOUSLY a bigger signal of attraction/interest than simply matching/swiping/liking and no the two are not 1:1 just because you can only message matches. JFC

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Anonymous #3 5w

And that doesn't change anything they said about what the data actually says - which is that men are way more shallow about appearance than women by a long shot. This is borne out in so many ways I genuinely can't believe people (resentful men, mainly) have deluded themselves into thinking women are more shallow about looks

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Anonymous #9 5w

go off twin

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Anonymous #3 5w

everything #9 said. what you added doesn't undermine what i said at all. reading the study *again* won't change that

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Anonymous #3 5w

you're still making baseless assumptions about the data

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Anonymous #7 5w

I actually read the study if either of you knew wtf you’re talking about youd realize that they swiped on the top twenty percent who they already deemed attractive so the original assertion that women are swiping on less attractive men is plainly false. It’s so hilarious how I can tell you didn’t read any of my earlier messages “less attractive” is someone who is still in that top 20 percent. It’s like calling a bench NBA player bad when he’s still the top 1 percent

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