Anonymous #2 2w

She was on birth control but apparently “forgot” to take it on the day we had sex, I mean what the fuck?

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Anonymous OP 2w

Okay. Still your fault. Condoms and other things exist. Even on birth control pregnancy can still happen. If you really didn’t want a kid you should have had extra precautions

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Anonymous #2 2w

Why the hell would anyone want a kid with a guy who doesn’t even want the child? I’ve explained to her that I’m not going to be around in her life like that and now she wants for trap me? What the fucking fuck?

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Anonymous OP 2w

You still can’t force her to do anything. Sit down and have a conversation but if she has that baby, it is also your responsibility

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Anonymous #4 2w

You’re not hearing me out. I thought she was on birth control. I don’t want this fucking bitch’s kid, okay? How the fuck does no one understand me? I’ve made it perfectly FUCKING clear that I’m not sticking around in her life which means I’m NOT going to be in this kids fucking life if she ends up having this fucking kid

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Anonymous OP 2w

Nope heard you loud and clear the first time you’re still an insensitive dumbass and an asshole the first time you said it and you still are no matter how many times you “repeat” it. You’re old enough to know if you should have sex or not. But it’s not your freaking body dude. If you didn’t want a kid don’t hunch it’s literally that simple they told us this in high school

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Anonymous OP 2w

Okay…what are we supposed to do we’re not paying your child support for you

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Anonymous OP 2w

Ok then pay child support if u wanna be a deabeat

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Anonymous OP 2w

Fertilization usually doesn’t occur the day you have sex anyways unless it’s the one day a month the egg has just been released, sperm lives for 5 days and waits to see if the egg will be released

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Anonymous OP 2w

She can’t trap you, legally no one can make you stay with her or raise the child

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Anonymous OP 2w

Bc you’re not the one getting the abortion so why tf would we side with a deadbeat that thinks he can stick his little peeny weeny in anything and anyone with no consequences? I don’t think you need to be sleeping around at all. In fact you need to be far from women and closer to the therapy institutions kiddo

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Anonymous #1 2w

That’s the fucking problem. This is exactly why I don’t want to have a kid with her. Pay child support? I mean what the living fuck? Why the fuck should I pay anything? And for what, the next 18 fucking years. I’m hoping to god she miscarries, I’m sorry if I sound like an asshole about that but I genuinely do, I hope she fucking loses this kid

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Anonymous #3 2w

There would just be child support

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Anonymous #2 2w

Yeah if that goes through and she peruses that legally

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Anonymous OP 2w

And we hope you’re hit with her car. Sorry if we sound like assholes but genuinely. Get the karma you need. Does that sound nice? No. So why be rude about it when you’re the one who’s broke and uneducated on how sex works. Weird bait man. Weird bait 🙂‍↔️

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Anonymous #4 2w

I didn’t think that there would FUCKING be consequences, I THOUGHT SHE WAS ON BIRTH CONTROL AND NOW IM BEING FUCKED. I can’t fucking do this

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Anonymous OP 2w

Yes you did. Bc they tell you this in sex ed. What else did you not know? That she can get STDs while being on birth control? That sperm is still alive days after sex? That you can conceive at any point during the cycle birth control or not? That abstinence is the only true form of complete contraception bc everything else is not 100% baby proof?

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Anonymous OP 2w

Well to answer the question…you don’t 🙂 Hope this helps

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Anonymous #4 2w

Why are you fucking against me? Dude I’m not trying to be an asshole, I just think it’s fair for her to abort if we both don’t want this kid

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Anonymous OP 2w

What about the repercussions to her? There’s a stigma around abortions and it affects the body. It’s her choice

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Anonymous OP 2w

She might have done that on purpose not gonna lie. Baby trap?

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Anonymous #3 2w

Oh but so if she couldn’t afford to raise she could get rid of it without any legal consequences, or at least that’s how it should be. But if he couldn’t afford to raise it she’s allowed to pursue financial responsibility from him? Not really fair

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Anonymous #8 2w

Like I said it can be a two way road. Men can get child support too

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Anonymous #8 2w

Unless he’s making a ton, she’s gonna end up paying more than him to raise a child anyways. Child support isn’t enough to remotely cover even childcare usually

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Anonymous #7 2w

Maybe every one in 1000 court case

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Anonymous #3 2w

It’s just called support for a reason

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Anonymous #3 2w

There’s her choice for going through with it dumbass

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Anonymous #3 2w

I looked it up and total average child support payments cover about 1/3 of the cost of childcare (as in just daycare)

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Anonymous #3 2w

Also child support costs heavily go off of income

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Anonymous #8 2w

So you agree that its a two way road

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Anonymous #7 2w

If she doesn’t want it then she should be able to legally get rid of it, if she wants it and he doesn’t he shouldn’t be legally or financially responsible

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Anonymous #8 2w

Why should she also fully have to pay for something that was an accident caused by both parties that she’s very likely just morally opposed to abortion and it’s not like she actively wanted a child either. Why should the consequences still only be on her

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Anonymous #3 2w

She has a choice the man doesn’t, is she was morally opposed to it then she should not have been the one having sex. It’s on her and she should’ve told him in that case

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Anonymous #3 2w

Also there are plenty of prolife men who are anti abortion and all for her having the child just to ditch once it’s born and if they didn’t have to pay child support that is especially not fair

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Anonymous #3 2w

Oh they very well did if the women found them or at least should’ve, I agree those guys are pieces of shit

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Anonymous OP 2w

i feel like you should’ve asked her if she took her birth control that day.. kinda your fault for not making sure also your fault for not pulling out, if you did not want a kid at all then you staying in was your own doing, also if you had asked her if she had taken it that day then that could’ve raised your case because then you would’ve had sex under false pretenses which would make you not liable for it in court but since you just went with it then you will be liable for it

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Anonymous #10 2w

also from what i read, assuming someone is on birth control does absolutely nothing for you, that’s why you use your mouth and you ask beforehand, not a very smart decision like you definitely didn’t talk about this because it’s really only a more sure proof thing if she was ovulating and if she was ovulating then that would be your info that she’s not on birth control because that stops ovulation, you just thought with your dick the whole time and didn’t have any common sense to communicate

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Anonymous #13 2w

Yeah that’s also the thing. Like lying about bc is literally assault which I feel like is being overlooked. Like this dude is in the wrong but very much so is she

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Anonymous #5 2w

He shouldn’t ask her not to have the kid but he should be able to get out without any responsibilities to said child

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Anonymous OP 2w

OP I’m sorry she did that, it’s fucked up. I wish you the best of luck in winning the legal battle if she carries it to term

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Anonymous OP 2w

in total fairness sir… why are you stickin it in anyone you wouldnt want to be in an ‘uh oh’ situation with..🤔

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Anonymous OP 2w

if he’s as much of an insufferable asshole as you are, nothing. keep it just to make you miserable since you love to pity yourself so much

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Anonymous #9 1w

you didn’t use a condom with someone you didn’t know and trust well enough to be certain they took their birth control. that’s not a “trap.” that’s you doing something dangerous without taking necessary precautions and being scared of your relatively minor consequence compared to what she has to endure.

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Anonymous #5 1w

evidence someone skipped birth control does not hold up in court, and skipping it once GENERALLY does not result in pregnancy.

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Anonymous #12 1w

it does not

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Anonymous OP 1w

you’re doing literally the opposite of “technically trying to be the responsible one now.” the ONLY responsible choices in this scenario are (1) use a condom or (2) pay a relatively small amount of money to support a child who is the result of your not using a condom.

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Anonymous #11 1w

entrapment would be something like poking holes in a condom, not lying about birth control. if you don’t know the person well enough to see them take their birth control correctly every day, it’s on you to wear a condom.

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Anonymous #16 1w

I wonder how this means she “lied”. When anyone can forget to not take it and take their day after pill. It’s still your fault for not taking better precautions

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Anonymous #13 1w

that’s not the same as assault. generally stealthing is, but if you don’t know someone, the general assumption is that you should use a condom.

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Anonymous #15 1w

Lying about contraception is assault

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Anonymous #5 1w

forgetting to take your birth control doesnt amount to an intent to deceive your partner

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Anonymous #14 1w

The problem is though, it’s possible she earnestly forgot, but it’s also possible she sabotaged intentionally

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Anonymous #5 1w

the problem is though, we all were taught that no contraceptive is 100% in high school.. you can’t point fingers for your lack of knowledge or proactivity. be a MAN… hello???

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Anonymous #5 1w

can you point to any law or regulation that says lying about birth control pills (not lying about an sti or stealthing) is assault? that seems very incorrect from everything i’ve read.

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Anonymous #15 1w

Sex under false pretenses is a form of SA

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Anonymous #8 1w

where does it say not taking a pill is false pretenses? false pretenses would be something like lying about having an sti or stealthing. if you don’t use a condom, the de facto standard seems to be that you accept the possibility of impregnating someone.

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Anonymous #15 1w

If someone said they’re on the pill and they are lying about it then it is sex under a false pretense

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Anonymous #8 1w

i can’t find anything that says it is in the eyes of the law, and i’m asking you to cite where you did

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Anonymous #15 1w

There was a whole discussion around an article in here involving rape and when of the categories listed was “telling her whatever she wants to hear” and so many people in here agreed with that so yes it’s a form of SA even by jury of the public opinion. In the UK they still have rape listed as penetration so if a of age women has sex with an underage boy the law doesn’t consider it rape, now you tell me if you think that’s right

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Anonymous #8 1w

we’re not arguing about what’s right; we’re arguing about whether op has any legal protections from having to pay child support

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Anonymous #8 1w

unfortunately the court of public opinion and whatever anyone here thinks is “right” means fuck-all when it comes to whether op should spend money he allegedly doesn’t have for child support on a lawyer to try and fight something

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Anonymous #15 1w

Sure the law probably won’t do anything but I don’t think we should play the game of what the law does because it screws women victims over all the time

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Anonymous #8 1w

op is asking for what he can do to avoid the legal repercussions of impregnating someone, though, not for emotional support. both of them were morally wrong, but that wasn’t the purpose of the conversation.

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Anonymous #8 1w

You were taught this in high school. He said she “apparently” forgot to take it which is very normal. Clearly he knows she takes birth control so she never lied. Ppl can take a morning after pill if anything but it is still your fault for not wearing protection. Trying to make it all on women for being responsible for bearing children is very unrealistic and irresponsible. “She’s on birth control so it’s on her if she gets pregnant I shouldn’t have to worry about it”. Uh…yes you should. Wrap up

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Anonymous #15 1w

both of them were morally wrong IF she did lie and get pregnant on purpose, i mean. which is a big if. there is no proving her birth control didn’t just fail.

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Anonymous #4 1w

I highly doubt if men were the ones that took birth control and women used condoms y’all would hold your positions but ok

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Anonymous #4 1w

And birth control can always be faulty especially if it’s the pill it’s not the most insured way to prevent pregnancy it’s not an IUD. A gynecologist will tell you that. Either way you should still have protection regardless. I take the pill and still wrap up

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Anonymous #8 1w

Nope it would be the same bc female condoms actually do exist. So I could also buy some for myself. But you thinking that pregnancy prevention is entirely on women when men can impregnate multiple women in a day while women can’t do that is a very uneducated way to think. YOU would be the reason women get pregnant. It’s not on her no matter what she does. If your sperm potentially reached that egg that was on you. Bc you can use a condom to prevent that reach altogether

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Anonymous #4 1w

I’ve actually changed my pill twice in 3 years bc my pills started to get faulty and my hormones were all over the place. Birth control takes a bit toll on the body and isn’t fully 100% protected

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Anonymous #4 1w

female condoms are around 10-20% less effective when used completely correctly, which is not taught in most sex ed curricula

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Anonymous #4 1w

So the women have 0 accountability for what happens yet they get to choose whether they want it or not is essentially what you’re saying, doesn’t sound right to me

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Anonymous #8 1w

that’s not what anyone said, and even if it were, they’re the one jeopardizing their life to carry the fetus and then responsible for every aspect of its life for 18 years??? of course it should be their decision? tf?

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Anonymous #8 1w

Both parties are accountable but it’s not totally her fault if she is pregnant bc both parties did not take proper protection. Only she did. And hers was not 100% in the first place so there was no extra steps taken. It’s still her body so if she wanted to keep it that’s also on her to choose. If it was your body and men could get pregnant it would be your choice the other way around

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Anonymous #15 1w

I think abortion should be legal and women should have the choice as it is their body but if it’s gonna be that way men should be able to abandon it if they want, obviously those that do aren’t good men though

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Anonymous #8 1w

That’s what child support is for. Women abandon babies too and are very much not good ppl just as much as the men who abandon children are

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Anonymous #8 1w

you are abandoning it by paying like a couple hours’ wages out of each paycheck if the mother is not financially able to take care of the child. do you even know how the system works or are you just arguing to argue?

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Anonymous #15 1w

If the mother can’t financially tank it then she shouldn’t have it

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