
I despise the idea that we need to give those people the time of day simply for diversity of opinion. Sorry but if your world view revolves around demeaning literally half the population and thinking they should be below the other half in the social order, then I donāt think youāre a serious person
I think that many of them have been raised to be more conducive to that style of thinking. My philosophy is to be tough on them while also showing them WHY their line of thinking is wrong. They have to realize that their thinking is harmful, cause thatās the only way they will stop.
this is clearly ragebait, but i think incels and manosphere are bad, they promote dangerous ideals in young boys who donāt know better. but calling them mentally unstable and calling for them to be locked up is irresponsible. thatās the same logic they used to lock up gay people or lobotomize women who embraced their sexuality. donāt use the enemyās playbook unless you can stand seeing him in the mirror
It preys on young men especially because they are easier to manipulate, and a lot of rejection happens in high school and middle school so they are in the midst of some of the worst years of their lives, and hormones are crazy so they feel ugly, rejected, and hopeless. Itās predatory, Iām glad you realized it before it got too late.
I mean if you have experienced life as the neglected unwanted kid and youāre carrying the baby, I donāt see why you canāt lock yourself up if you truly believe abortions are illegal and get one anyways! People who are pro-rape are actively harming a sentient being capable of consenting so itās probably a little different
I mean I particularly mean people who are spreading the rhetoric as well. Like people who are outwardly incely. But inward incels are still inherently bad people and likely to do things that are harmful, so I think it could also be argued that we could stop the harm by punishing the mindset as well, though thatās probably ethically problematic.
I believe the paradox of tolerance is solved by simply not being tolerant of people who seek to institute intolerance or actively harm others. We can be accepting of many different beliefs and worldviews, but those that actively seek and preach harm are not acceptable for the continuation of a stable civil society.
Itās not ragebait, itās genuinely how I feel about it. I donāt hate an entire half of the population, I love men specifically the men in my life. I think they provide a lot of value to the world as they are. But men who spew dangerous and harmful rhetoric are poisoning the minds of young boys. And the only way to stop poison from spreading and killing people is to remove it.
I think thereās a big difference between gay people who love people of the same sex and women who think sex is fun and enjoyable and men who genuinely believe women are objects and worthless. Incels genuinely kill for their ideas. Isla Vista attacks saw 6 people dead and in the attackers manifesto was incel ideologies, he specifically targeted sorority women. In Canada, a case was tried against a man who entered a massage parlor with a machete, deeming incel ideology as terrorism, and I agree.
You are not a martyr, letās start there. You guys scream into the chudly void which is the manosphere, not an ounce of testosterone in your body, and nobody but depressed middle school boys listens. You might convince that kid to kill themselves or their mom or a girl at their school, but then thatās that. You literally did nothing for the cause but create another dead boy, or an imprisoned man, and then he learns in prison what itās like to be a woman. And suddenly, heās no longer an incel.
You talk about hypergamy but thatās just a relationship choice. Not all women are hypergamous, I know hypergamous men. I treat my man like a king if he wants something I buy it for him. I pay for dinners and such, and I love it. I love seeing him happy. Some people prefer to have different roles in a relationship, some of those people are women who want princess treatment, and want their man to look and be a certain way and thatās okay. Because standards ARE okay.
See the issue with you James is that you have not grown up past the āI didnāt get what I want so Iām gonna throw a tantrumā phase. What is that? Terrible twos maybe? Instead of taking criticism or rejection and turning it into a learning experience, you took rejection and made it into a āthe whole world is against me so Iām gonna cry and kick and screamā thing. Like an overly dramatic middle schooler who didnāt get invited to a sleepover.
Whatās funny to me is, you would probably be attractive to some girls with some hygiene resolutions. You just choose to sulk. Trim your beard, layer your hair and you look like Avan Jogia. But your a chud through and through so you wonāt do anything about that fact your just gonna give up and call urself an incel.
āPpl like Joe Roganā dawg, Joe Rogan is the exact opposite of ālevel headedā, what are we talking about here. All he does is go along with exactly what the guest or sponsor says to be as agreeable as possible. For example, his stance against gambling, which he immediately reversed when sports betting websites offered him contracts in the millions for sponsor reads. That man has absolutely no morals whatsoever.
if you murder a murderer thereās the same number of murderers. all iām saying is treating people with respect isnāt the same as dismissing their actions. you canāt start seeing them as less than because they disagree with you, even if they are harmful. you start calling for peopleās deaths because you disagree, youāre the same as them with a different ideological basis. you can hate someone as a person, but never forget theyāre a human being same as you
youāre right, disagreement is the wrong word. i also think itās bigger than that. but the point still stands, people are still humans worthy of humanity no matter how far gone they seem. the people who we give up on go further down the pipeline. you donāt have to like anyone, but you should love everyone