Anonymous #2 11w

You people choose not to think outside of talking points. You don’t think at all about the context of everything bc you’ve never had to think long and hard about your place in the world. The fetus at conception is non sentient, it does not feel shit and does not care if it’s removed. Furthermore, as I said birth/pregnancy is EXTREMELY TRAUMATIC on the mind and body. So many women experience very unwanted thoughts of hurting themselves and their babies after birth, but no one gafs

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Anonymous OP 11w

You want women to be forced to have children they don’t want? Advocate for women’s health.

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Anonymous OP 11w

Jesus Christ. I have no idea how adults still don’t understand the purpose of intrusive thoughts. You can’t avoid what you do not know. The urge people feel to jump near a height exists for you to avoid heights. This is a similar thing that happens when a child is born. The mother should understand that urge exists so she PROTECTS her children. You don’t need a therapist to understand this is how you should interpret intrusive thoughts.

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Anonymous #2 11w

But it’s completely clear that feminists will eventually want the RIGHT to give into these urges. And abortion is simply a step into that direction. This is why we need a hardline to stop this from happening and ruining our society.

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Anonymous #2 11w

Braindead again. Calling post partum psychosis “intrusive thoughts” is very clear of your understanding of how pregnancy and birth works. If anything, abortion PREVENTS this from happening, as women who know they are susceptible to experiencing this can choose not to have the baby. Do not butt in on women’s issues if you aren’t a woman lmao, or have an extreme level of understanding on women’s health.

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Anonymous #2 11w

You don’t care about women or mothers or even babies, you care about control

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Anonymous #2 11w

And what you aren’t getting on top of all this, is limiting abortion access will increase the number of cases like this. When we take away one right of HEALTHCARE, it warrants further limiting of research for women/pregnancy, for empathy for mothers who experience horrific suicidal and homicidal tendencies after childbirth. That’s just how it works in our society. Once again, if you want to limit abortion, go out and advocate for women’s health.

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Anonymous #2 11w

People like YOU have already ruined society. You want forced babies so bad? Adopt a child out of the foster system each year. Keep your word and don’t have sex without the purpose of having a child.

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Anonymous OP 11w

1. I was not talking about post partum psychosis, instead I talked about urges many women commonly feel after birth. 2. Don’t be sexist. Men should be able to speak on women’s issues in the same way women can speak on men’s issues. Don’t silence people.

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Anonymous OP 11w

That’s… what conservatives already do. That’s why those people don’t need abortion. They are stable and full of love. More people should be like them. And idk what you mean but ruining society. Economy has been on the decline ever since abortion was legalized.

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Anonymous #2 11w

That’s what ppd/ppp is… it’s experiencing suicidal and homicidal tendencies… and instead of shaming women, there needs to be more advocacy so they can get help. and I’m telling you not to speak on these issues because very clearly by your responses you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about lmao. You have these juvenile responses talking about “intrusive thoughts”. Watch a video that shows graphic detail of childbirth. Men are forever attempting to control women’s bodies and minds

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Anonymous OP 11w

While women advocate for men’s issues. That’s where those things are different. You have no context or are capable of thinking outside of everything you consume on Instagram or of bullshit Fox News talking points. Sexism does not exist for men because the patriarchy is still in power. YOU should not be speaking on women’s issues unless you have actually studied these things in depth

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Anonymous OP 11w

Men could never even FATHOM what the experience of a woman is, let alone pregnancy or childbirth. Cry sexism all you want, you’re still an NPC

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Anonymous OP 11w

Women ☕️

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Anonymous #2 11w

Send me a link to those stats. Also that last comment is extremely clear that you do not care about women or children lmao. “The economy has been on the decline” like is that what you care about? Even if that happens to be true for some whatever Santa Claus reason you believe, we should be limiting access to healthcare because… stocks?

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Anonymous #2 11w

Many conservative women ALSO experience PPD and PPP lol, they are just as capable of killing themselves or their children after pregnancy, perhaps even moreso because getting help is more stigmatized

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Anonymous #2 11w

Lol go cry into your anime body pillow troll

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Anonymous OP 11w

just don’t even listen to him. men these days have are all infected with evil. they’re animals. they don’t think, they just say. they just have hate in their brains and they live to hurt others. they’re not of sound mind. it’s not worth it, as they say you can’t argue with crazy.

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Anonymous #3 11w

Nah. Just whenever a woman goes, “You can’t imagine what it’s like to be a woman!!!” I know I won the argument. Women have no idea what it’s like to be a man. Men don’t have any idea what it’s like to be a woman. Just a fact of life. But using that as an argument shows you have no talking points left.

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Anonymous #2 11w

#3 you need to calm down and learn how to show respect to a man.

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Anonymous #2 11w

Oml cry me a fucking River🙄

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Anonymous #4 11w

I have already been shedding tears for the millions of innocents who never even had the chance to see the light in the world. So here is your river: 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🐋🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊

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Anonymous #2 11w

Womp womp

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Anonymous OP 11w

holy shit preach. we need more people with genuine common sense like you.

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

pls never talk again. a zygote isn’t an organism yet and cannot comprehend anything. pls take biology or human anatomy again because you’re so clearly warped.

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Anonymous #6 11w

never, ever procreate. see this pic??? this is a BABY just born at 35 weeks. and currently TEN STATES IN THE USA allow abortion PAST 35 weeks all the way up until literal birth. but yeah keep phrasing a literal child as “zygote” and “fetus” to justify actual infanticide. you’re sick

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

Lmao it takes one google search to find that abortions after 35 weeks are when it’s necessary to save the mothers life. Be so fucking for real you people are fear mongering idiots

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

Name one case of a woman carrying a baby for 35 weeks and then just deciding to get rid of it for any other reason than her health or the fetuses health. I’ll wait.

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Anonymous OP 11w

are u genuinely illiterate or just spreading lies??? why dont we take the state of massachusetts for example. they just passed a law that makes it so starting november 8 2026, the mother/doctor can decide to have an abortion for ANY REASON UP UNTIL BIRTH. why dont you google again and actually read what it says huh?

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Anonymous #4 11w

public abortion stats don’t tell why every woman decided to kill her child. the point is its a child and if it ISNT because the mothers life is in danger, then its murder. So why the heck would we need to pass laws saying people can have abortions for any random reason up until birth?

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

So you can’t name one single case? Not even one?

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

How about what percentage of abortions happen after 35 weeks? Can you do that?

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Anonymous #4 11w

are you dumb? i dont have access to the personal info and abortion procedure history and reason for doing it of every woman who has had an abortion 🙄🙄🙄 or any of them for that matter

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

So the answer is…..no, correct? You can’t name one?

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Anonymous #4 11w

also not a public stat! 🙄🙄

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

“Is third‐trimester abortion exceptional? Two pathways to abortion after 24 weeks of pregnancy in the United States” from the NIH and “Abortions Later in Pregnancy in a Post-Dobbs Era” from KFF, but that was cute

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Anonymous #4 11w

still waiting for the stat about after 35 weeks 🥱🥱🥱

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

Wow, gave me all of five seconds huh? What, don’t like the two sources I gave you to read? Or are they too many words for ya?

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Anonymous #4 11w

wow!!!! great sources!!!!!!!!! is there ANYTHING in them that says a single thing about the stat of “how many abortions happen after 35 weeks” which is the question you asked? nope! crazy how that works…

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

They both discuss the percentages LMAOO, I’m begging you to learn reading comprehension. It’s less than 1% btw, since you can’t read💀🙄

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

And I never asked for the number of them, i asked about the percentages, a very important distinction here that’s lost to you for some reason

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

are you dense.. i’m talking about before it begins to form life which is during the zygote phase. not when it’s a literal fucking human. you’re so unbelievably illiterate it makes me laugh. i can’t believe people like YOU vote. 🤣🤣

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Anonymous #4 11w

oh yeah? since im so bad at reading why dont you screenshot the part where it says ANYTHING about the number of abortions happening after 35 weeks? not 21 weeks! 35 weeks! i know counting is hard for you..

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

Takes one more 2 second google search to show it’s, once again, past 24 weeks when deemed MEDICALLY NECESSARY by medical professionals. Yall are actually moronic.

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

LMAO THATS WHAT YOURE TAKING ISSUE WITH

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

yeah we’re not talking about that you tard head.

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

Sure, specifically after the random number I spit out after your specific comment, 35 weeks isn’t mentioned in there but is still covered by the “at or after 21 weeks”. So yeah less than one percent actually

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

please reread my comment and come back when you can comprehend my sentence.

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Anonymous #4 11w

pls he’s trying to switch it up. let’s not waste time on this degenerate.

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

So yes, these “late term abortions” pro lifers never STFU about are rare and often occur to save the life of the mother

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Anonymous OP 11w

here is the actual law from the massachusetts gov website. where does it say MEDICALLY NECESSARY huh??? oh wow, nowhere!! i’m so surprised omg

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

pls why r u still on abt this. we aren’t even talking about this part. holy shit get a grip and wake up.

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Anonymous #6 11w

Ok but you gotta admit it’s funny atp. “It says after 21 weeks not 35🤓” like please learn reading comprehensiooooooon

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

That is literally what it says just in different words lol I can’t with ur goofy ass

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Anonymous #4 11w

if they occur to save the life of the mother then why would you need to change the laws that ALREADY account for saving the life of the mother to just be for any reason? riddle me this genius

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

What judgement are they making exactly? The trained professionals of which you are not?

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

Because they often aren’t specific and leave it open to interpretation not by the doctors doing the saving, but for the people arresting them after the fact. Often doctors have to wait until a woman is actively dying from something like sepsis, something preventable with an earlier abortion, or possibly face legal consequences. It’s really not that complex babe.

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Anonymous #6 11w

ok #6 when do YOU think it should a baby is a human? if it’s any point before its born, then guess what, theres laws that allow it for reasons that are not medically necessary in multiple states!

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Anonymous #4 11w

literally any judgement the physician wants and it does not say anywhere that it has to be medically necessary at all.

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

I’m begging you to use your brain. What judgment would a doctor be making about an abortion.

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Anonymous #4 11w

oh and they couldn’t update the law to say that if doctors have a reasonable reason to think the mothers life is in danger then its fine? no that was too hard and instead they just had to full blanket statement it?

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Anonymous #4 11w

doctors perform abortions all the time for any random reason. the doctor in this case would be making that exact same decision huh

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

Girl wtf are you trying to say here💀💀 sure there can be middle ground somewhere

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

Do they often use their judgement to decide if each woman gets an abortion or not regardless if she is within the correct amount of weeks under the law? Or would they more likely be using their judgement about if a woman needs one for a medical reason after the legal amount of weeks?

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Anonymous #6 11w

Ok it’s less funny now and more painful💀💀 I struggle to think real people are this stupid

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Anonymous #4 11w

let me explain like ur 5, if i have a law that says abortion is allowed if the mothers life is in danger, and then i have issues with doctors not being sure when it counts until her life is actively in danger. why would i not simply update my law to say that her life DOESNT have to actively be in danger, it can also be in future danger as determined by a doctor? Why would i update my law to say they can get an abortion whenever and don’t put any restrictions on it being medically necessary?

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Anonymous #6 11w

i’m a girl btw🥱🥱

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Anonymous #4 11w

yes theres no stats about after 35 weeks. obviously after 21 also applies to 35?? i might as well take the stats of after 10 weeks and give that as answer to 35 if we are just taking random stats from before 35 weeks lmfao

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

Oh because these things are subjective! Sure, the professional could make their decision in the moment, but then what if they go to court? They could get ripped apart by other doctors with other opinions, high risk procedures the patient didn’t want they could’ve tried, etc. Doctors don’t want to risk their careers and possibly risk jail time for one specific case. If these bans are put into place we either need SPECIFICS put into law or we need these blanket statements, as you put it

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Anonymous #4 11w

> after the legal amount of weeks THEY REMOVED THE LEGAL AMOUNT OF WEEKS. there is no “legal amount of weeks” anymore. It is all legal. See the problem??

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

You wanna know why? Because abortions after 21 weeks are less than 1% of all abortions. Do you know what that means for abortions after 35 weeks?

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Anonymous #4 11w

its not hard to put specifics into a law. many of our laws are incredibly specific. yet this was done as a blanket statement instead

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

Just address the point bro, quit dodging. Regardless, no I don’t because I think abortion should be kept legal regardless of weeks

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Anonymous #4 11w

and ??

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

So then the lawmakers should hurry up and listen to us and put them into law. Tell me, how much have you done to get these specifics put into law to help save women’s lives?

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

Woof, someone’s lost

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Anonymous #4 11w

What reason would a doctor who performs abortions have to care about if it’s medically necessary or not, if its legal?? You’re just assuming the doctor is a good person??

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

I generally assume people are good, and I’m speaking from a place of women don’t carry fetuses for 35 weeks and then randomly decide to kill it lmao, idk why you think this happens at all when you cannot name a single case of it happening ever

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

And I really don’t think anyone on earth has enough crayons to help you out with this one! Have fun crazy!

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Anonymous #4 11w

first of all i’m literally a woman, second of all i speak out about it every single time the topic comes up. glad we agree on this 👍

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Anonymous #4 11w

So we are just assuming all women are also good people and none of them have ever randomly decided to kill anyone, especially children?? Lmaooo

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

even more embarrassing. yikes

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

honey it’s not about “think” it’s about genuine research and knowledge. you’re uneducated. it may be because you’re brain dead or just immature, but the fetus is considered a fetus during the 9 week “fetal” stage. before that, the embryo hasn’t even formed yet, making it NOT an organism AKA it’s not alive.

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Anonymous #6 11w

ok so you also agree that the majority of states that allow past 9 weeks are executing a human then? interesting

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

girl can you shut the fuck up please

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Anonymous twirling_tornado 11w

yet again you lack comprehensive skills because this is not even the debate in the first place. it’s whether woman should have the right to get an abortion, NOT what phase they should get it in.

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Anonymous #6 11w

this is literally an ongoing debate all over the country lmaooo so do you agree or not??

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Anonymous OP 9w

It is a nightmare…

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