Anonymous #1 1d

which is why so many women, well-read feminists, end up sounding like “man haters”—men have consistently betrayed women for seeking material improvements for their fellow women. it’s blackpilling to realize the only way to move forward is without

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Anonymous #1 1d

To say at their a group believes something is inherently discriminatory there is nothing that makes people born men inherently worse people then women the statement that all men believe that is just not true

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Anonymous #1 1d

Also when has hating and diminishing someone ever convinced them to be your ally having intelligent conversations and reaching mutual understanding does that not spreading hatred towards a group because of a factor of their identity they can’t control

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Anonymous OP 1d

women HAVE been trying to have these conversations—women have tried appeasing men, telling them they’d benefit from feminism too! (flattening the actual goal of feminism: female liberation from patriarchy) that men don’t benefit from patriarchy at ALL! patriarchy HURTS men, too! women have tried distilling their beliefs to adhere to larger movements, movements that ignore and trivialize the suffering of women. they even did this by swapping “feminist” out with “egalitarian.” NOTHING HAS WORKED

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Anonymous OP 1d

i think a key part of all of this is that women’s hatred for men, no matter how “online” or otherwise mouthy it is, has virtually no tangible impact on the real world. women are not mowing men down with their cars, slitting men’s necks, mutilating men’s bodies, imposing laws that control what men can or cannot do, attacking men at random on the street, because they’re motivated by their hatred for men. the reverse, men hating women, however…

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Anonymous #1 1d

straight up cookin

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Anonymous #1 1d

I would disagree I think that man hating actively pushes young men towards toxic masculinity because they don’t feel like spaces inhabited by women online are safe spaces and instead seek solace with creators like Andrew Tate who prey on how young men feel about the man hating and use it to convince them that incel and toxic masculinity behavior is what’s best for them

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Anonymous #1 1d

Your generalizing to much they’re are plenty of men who understand what u are saying but turning towards hatred because it seems like it’s not working isn’t gonna fix anything also my experience online is that when men engage in conversations about how the patriarchy negatively affects them there’s an understandable but still unhelpful lack of empathy the whole “who set that system up” thing

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Anonymous OP 1d

do you think manosphere talking heads like andrew tate or clavicular—both of whom have their own allegations/convictions—don’t play a role in pushing women to distrust men even further? when they encourage misogynistic rhetoric like “hypergamy” or the belief all women are gold-digging sluts? that they’re only a pussy to fuck and display? it’s all so they can further antagonize and ridicule women

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Anonymous OP 1d

genuinely asking, how old are you

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Anonymous #1 1d

No I’m saying they do and man hating actively pushes men towards them

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Anonymous #1 1d

I’m 18 but i don’t see why that matters

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Anonymous OP 1d

i’ll i’m going to say is that you’re young. you have a lot to learn from, to read about, to engage with—critically and with good intentions.

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Anonymous #1 1d

I don’t think my age makes anything I’m saying less valid but enjoyed our conversation hope we both learned from it

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