Anonymous #1 21h

If men that thought like this withdrew for the dating pool completely, i think some women would be disappointed (lots of people seek out sex and not relationships) but a lot of other women would come out of the woodworks and start dating more men since they wouldn’t have to deal with this useless ideal.

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Anonymous #1 21h

I think you’re misunderstanding my question. People who aren’t getting laid clearly also aren’t in relationships they’d otherwise want to be in. I think you’re trying to have a different discussion from the one we’re currently having.

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Anonymous OP 21h

oh ok mb

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Anonymous #2 21h

Is more happy sexless singles a positive outcome?

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Anonymous OP 21h

Possibly because it would erase a lot of viewpoints that ppl’s lives are valued in how much sex they are having. When that’s an unhealthy view of sex in of itself

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Anonymous #2 21h

Well, then you can’t shit on them or tell them that there’s something wrong with them because they’re not having sex or in relationship relationships despite previously wanting to. Is that a fair deal?

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Anonymous OP 21h

I never did that to begin with. Idc if a man is having sex or not

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Anonymous #2 21h

How would I know if you did?

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Anonymous #3 21h

The fact that you think partnered desire is inherently entitlement is problematic

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Anonymous OP 21h

I don’t. Why would I care about anyone having sex that’s not my business

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Anonymous #2 21h

There’s a difference between passive shaming and active shaming. Have you asked yourself if you ever done something like that passively

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Anonymous OP 21h

I don’t shame ppl for not having sex. I literally do not care if you had sex or not

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Anonymous #2 21h

I hope that’s true

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Anonymous OP 21h

It is. I don’t owe you any proof. We’re not insulting men for not having sex they’re actively being sexist and generalizing women bc women won’t sleep with them

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Anonymous #2 21h

I don’t care about a random man’s sex like. I’m not going “hey did you have sex? No? Loser”

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Anonymous #2 21h

Who is we? I’m talking to you. And since when did this ever have anything to do with people that are being misogynistic? This is just about people that are not getting laid.

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Anonymous #2 21h

Do you know the difference between active and passive?

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Anonymous OP 21h

And like I said I do not care if men are getting laid in the first place so why did you try to make a “deal” about telling them something is wrong with them when it had nothing to do with the question

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Anonymous #2 21h

Because people can be shitty

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Anonymous OP 21h

Yes and why are you assuming I’m doing it passively. I said I don’t care if men are having sex or not. So why do you continue to act like I secretly do. I don’t care if men or women are sexually active it’s not my business

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Anonymous OP 21h

Okay well that’s not me. Any other questions?

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Anonymous #2 21h

I’m not assuming you’re doing it passively. I’m asking if you are

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Anonymous #2 21h

No, but you’re doing way too much when this is a conversation about decency

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Anonymous OP 21h

And I said no.

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Anonymous #2 21h

You didn’t even do any type of introspection on yourself. You just said no.

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Anonymous OP 21h

Yeah because you asked if I did it passively. And I said no. So what introspection is needed for you trying to make bold and false assumptions about a person you do not know and generalize them. You just proved my point that instead of listening to introspect from women they generalize and complain instead

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Anonymous OP 21h

There’s no decency when they’re misogynistic though? So when was this about decency when I said I do not personally do that

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Anonymous #2 21h

This isn’t an introspection needed form women. it’s an introspection needed from you. Do not think about the harm that you could be causing passively?

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Anonymous #2 21h

OK, then don’t give shitty people decency. But how do you know you yourself are not being a shitty Person Person

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Anonymous OP 21h

You said there’s no we so what introspection is needed from women. Women didn’t do anything to those men so what reflection is needed. Reflection for having the right to reject sex from men? Because if they do not care if the man has sex, and you have multiple women saying it’ll be better because there’s less value being dependent on sex, what part are you still mad about and how is that womens problem to fix. It’s always the women needing to fix your introspection

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Anonymous #2 21h

No, the reflection is about whether or not you’re shitting on people for not having sex passively. Something you didn’t even take two seconds to think about.

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Anonymous OP 21h

I don’t give shitty ppl decency I’m a golden rule person. I give respect when it is given to me. I don’t owe men respect when I’m insulted and generalized, especially if I already tried helping

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Anonymous OP 21h

Bc I know I’m not. And that’s all that’s needed to know. I know myself

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Anonymous #2 21h

The conversation wasn’t about you being insulted or generalized. It’s about you specifically and if you’re passively shitting on people.

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Anonymous OP 21h

When was I passively shitting on people

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Anonymous OP 21h

And I said I don’t. So any other assumptions and or questions

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Anonymous #2 21h

You didn’t even think about the ways that you could’ve been. Views you hold about men aren’t very successful successfully or romantically. Clearly you hold negative views because you immediately assumed that people that struggle romantically and sexually are inherently misogynistic. You need to think about that for more than two seconds.

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Anonymous #2 21h

I don’t know if you are but you aren’t even trying to be open to that level of humility about yourself and how you treat people or have treated people in the past

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Anonymous #2 21h

You make very hasty assumptions and it’s not good for conversing productively

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Anonymous OP 21h

I don’t have to think about something I never did so again when was I being passively shitty to ppl. You refuse to answer that question. I answered and you refused to believe me and you’re trying to tell me to think bc in your head I did something that bothered you when I didn’t. So when was I being passively shitty to men for not having sex

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Anonymous OP 21h

So if I said I wasn’t why do you not know? Why do you keep trying to make me something that I am not just to make yourself feel better about your false preconceived notion about me

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Anonymous #2 21h

I didn’t say that you were, I asked why you haven’t reflected on whether you have

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Anonymous OP 21h

I don’t need to reflect because I haven’t. And you said I was, so when was I?

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Anonymous #2 21h

I never said that you were

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Anonymous #2 21h

I’m asking you to be and ask yourself how you treat treated people. I’m not telling you that you treated people bad, but you didn’t even think about the ways that you could’ve before you even said it.

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Anonymous #2 21h

You act like me saying no is me lying and I to reflect. I don’t owe you anything and I have no reason to lie to a random dude. Why in the world would I care about a random dude’s sex life what does that do for my wellbeing. Will that change my life if I start caring?

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Anonymous OP 21h

“Ways I could’ve” when I haven’t done any ways. So I’ll tell you what. YOU tell me what I did

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Anonymous OP 21h

I don’t need to converse bc I answered the question of the post. You didn’t like the response that’s all

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Anonymous #2 20h

The reason you would lie in this conversation is to virtue-signal to make yourself look better to other people who can see this conversation. Also You’re oversimplifying what this would actually look like in real life. You could be discriminated in many different ways like when you date people who haven’t been romantically or sexually successful….or you might have those kinds of conversations with your friends, or be complicit in them.

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Anonymous #2 20h

I’m not saying that you did anything I’m asking you to think about if you could’ve

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Anonymous OP 20h

Why would I be virtue signaling because you questioned me to make yourself feel like a victim. I don’t care about a man’s sex life or anyone’s. It’s when they insult, make assumptions, generalize and harass the women for it that I start to care bc that’s rude and selfish and very ignorant to do. I could care less how much sex you had today or any day

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Anonymous #2 20h

Hold up how the hell am I victimizing myself?

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Anonymous #2 20h

I’m criticizing your capacity to look inward not whether or not you have done the things

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Anonymous OP 20h

I don’t even talk about my own sex life to ppl so. Why are you still trying to make stupid assumptions and generalize me bc of what some other random woman possibly did to you

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Anonymous #2 20h

I have made no assumptions about you

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Anonymous OP 20h

There’s no criticizing needed you just refuse to accept someone’s answer so now you’re just randomly making fake criticisms

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Anonymous #2 20h

There was no need to criticize literally anything when the whole reason you’re like this bc you asked “ how would I know”. Uh bc I’m me and I fucking know how I am. Do YOU know me to question me? No? Okay. So have a good day

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Anonymous #2 20h

The criticism is because you didn’t even think about it. You just said no you haven’t but didn’t even think about the way that you probably could’ve.

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Anonymous OP 20h

Nope. I’m thinking and never did. So have a good day

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Anonymous #2 20h

I will say you don’t owe me humility. But the lack of humility regarding whether or not you could have caused harm is the same thing that you criticize other people for affirmatively. as you have done in this conversation in regards to talking about misogyny and sexism immediately.

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Anonymous #2 20h

Why do you feel so attacked?

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Anonymous OP 18h

but it is entitled. You can have romantic relationships without getting laid. No one HAS to engage in partnered desire with you, and if you think so you are simply entitled. If you can’t get laid, you don’t have to withdraw from the dating scene.

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Anonymous #4 4h

I love everything else you said, except for the very last part

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Anonymous OP 4h

I meant like attracted to you in a platonic way 😭 not necessarily romantic

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Anonymous #4 3h

I still don’t agree. If no one is ever attracted to you, you just gotta take that. Because there’s other things to do.

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Anonymous OP 1h

Dude just shut up

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Anonymous #2 1h

What’s wrong with what I said?

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Anonymous OP 1h

I mean I’m not saying you’re guaranteed to find someone. But you should focus more on platonic relationships, and if you’re lucky they might develop into romantic but that shouldn’t be the goal. The goal is to enjoy each other’s presence in whatever format that may be.

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Anonymous OP 58m

OP, you’re such a case study. You’re unattractive because you believe you are unattractive. I don’t care how facially challenged you are, good people are very beautiful because their hearts are good. Plenty of “ugly” people met the loves of their lives without prerequisite of money or other material things. You simply have confirmation bias. I pray men who can’t get laid find happiness elsewhere, but you I could care less

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Anonymous #4 57m

I understand what you’re saying I agree. I just thought I would make it specific why I disagreed with the specific part that you had mentioned about still having room for romance in that way later on.

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Anonymous #1 53m

What are you talking about? I’m not a case study for anything. I don’t think I’m unattractive. This shit is not about me.. what do you even think I’m saying right now like are you reading anything that I said?

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Anonymous #1 53m

I literally said if no one‘s attracted to you you just have to take that and find other things to do to make yourself happy. I literally said that I don’t know what you’re talking about with your criticism, you sound insane

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Anonymous #4 52m

That’s my entire point

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Anonymous #1 46m

Why r u hating on op

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Anonymous OP 37m

you keep commenting about how you don’t agree with the answers people here are giving. Sorry for assuming that this was about you but why else ride this hard about unattractive people being unloved? We are saying that it would probably be better for the dating pool if men who think all romantic relationships equal sex left the pool and that women would start to date unabashedly without fear of coercion or entitlement and you just disagree. It’s not even discussion anymore you’re just pedantic

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Anonymous #1 33m

You’re the one being pedantic. You thought this was about me before even asking. It is perfectly OK to expect sex under the confines of a romantic relationship. That’s not even what the conversation was originally about but now did you bring that up. It is perfectly OK for you to expect sex in a romantic relationship as long as you’re respecting any other persons boundaries.. you don’t even know what I’m disagreeing with. You just had a random ass argument with yourself.

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