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Ask Women 1w

Me: “I’m conservative, but I would love to talk and understand why you believe what you do!” Liberals: *every slur and crude name in the book then tell me to die* Okay thanks! Appreciate it!!

Anonymous 1w

Well yeah I don’t think anyone is fond of someone that voted against the rights of others, and actively voted a party that stripped them away while actively harming other ppl in the process due to personal bias in themselves

Anonymous 1w

Yeah generally people aren't friendly towards an ideology that opposes their humanity and the rights of those they love

Anonymous 1w

Cap; both sides are guilty of this. But as a moderate, I see mainly the extremists of both sides who engage in this. People who aren’t extreme on either side do engage is conversation and discourse.

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Anonymous 1w

I mean this is a problem on both sides of the political spectrum. I’m Jewish, queer and recently disabled. You can imagine the horrific stuff I’ve been told by conservatives and Trump supporters. Things I don’t even want to say here. People just aren’t open to having conversations.

Anonymous 1w

There’s a political page u can post this on…

Anonymous 1w

I was open to talking to conservatives but then they kept telling me I should die or be raped so I stoped sorry, I’ve never told anyone to die tho, no one should do that!

Anonymous 1w

I find this hilarious as someone who grew up gay and disabled in the Deep South in the late 90’s. Man, I wish I had a dollar or 2 for every time I was called a slur, told to go 💀 myself or violently assaulted by Conservatives. I thank God every day that my Dad had to move to Washington for his job. I really think I’d have either been beaten to death or 💀 myself before I finished HS.

Anonymous 1w

Sometimes people don’t feel like talking to you and MAGA won’t take no for an answer or sees declining to engage with them as proof they are intellectually superior. A lot of us see your opinions as morally bankrupt or frankly not worth our time .

Anonymous 1w

do y'all in the comments want conservatives to be convinced, or do you want them to just stay in their conservative bubbles and keep sending people like this into office

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Anonymous

#2 1w

Especially after we’ve told our side even since way before the election. So if you weren’t willing to listen then I doubt you’ll care to actually take in our feelings now that things are in full effect

Anonymous

#6 1w

Unfortunately your beliefs are currently stripping people of their rights to their way of life or even their lives, so…

Anonymous

#5 1w

the president's a pedophile and you still think it's a matter of being convincing?

Anonymous

#2 1w

Yall just say bs and get mad when we don’t blindly believe yall. Nobody is losing rights other than illegal immigrants who never had citizen rights to begin with.

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Anonymous

strawberry_hair 1w

Okay but understand that those people are just assholes, and happen to be conservative. There are assholes in every facet of society, don’t let the assholes prevent you from being genuine with other genuine people.

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Anonymous

#6 1w

What rights are being stripped

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Anonymous

#8 1w

Exactly my point. Tell that to the many people of color that get looped in with them. The ppl that are practically being denied to access to basic citizen rights bc they’re transgender. The gas prices increasing. Ppl being harmed and stripped from families. The ppl that even though they have proof of citizenship, STILL being deported just bc of their race enough as is. ICE literally saying they are trained to go against the constitution so they’re against ppl’s constitutional rights

Anonymous

#2 1w

Shall I continue

Anonymous

#1 1w

Many conservatives have separated themselves from Trump for this very reason. MAGA is its own little political bubble that started on the right, but now is its own party altogether. And no that doesn’t mean those conservatives including myself are going to become liberal, we still hold the opinions we held 10 years ago, we haven’t shifted, the politicians have.

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Anonymous

#8 1w

Some republicans have distanced themselves, sure, but certainly not most. His approval rating among republicans is still around 75%. MAGA is not a "little bubble," it is the dominant conservative political movement in America.

Anonymous

#1 1w

Well in all fairness, the approval rating is based on his performance as President, not a judgement of character. And so as much as I hate the guy, he’s supporting conservative policies which is what the conservatives voted for. It’s awful, but when considering who to vote for, people have to assess the effects of each candidates policies on their day to day lives. Trump is an egomaniacal pedophile, but the alternative is to vote to raise income tax to 40% and let millions of illegals roam free

Anonymous

#8 1w

okay so two messages ago when you said the politicians shifted and not your opinions, what you meant was that you support the policies of the current president

Anonymous

#1 1w

you act like there aren't swing voters. answer the question— do you want them to stay in their fox news circlejerk bubble or actually be exposed to diff ideas in good faith

Anonymous

#8 1w

i can't reply to your following comment for some reason but the constitution applies to "all persons," not just "all citizens." even if one is a strict conservative constitutionalist, due process is universal and cruel & unusual punishment is prohibited

Anonymous

#4 1w

^^^ what they said. You just aren’t talking to the right people I fear. I love a political conversation even if our views don’t align!! I think conversation and discourse is critically important to our development as a society!!

Anonymous

#8 1w

Literally the exact issue with op comment :( Just as there are assholes on the conservative side, there are assholes on the liberal side. Generalizations will get us nowhere.

Anonymous

#5 1w

the key word there is "stay". the MAGA true-believers are already in a completely isolated media ecosystem, I have no ability to affect or engage with them in any way at all. I'm personally fine with engaging people across the spectrum if the opportunity comes up, but I'm also a white guy so it's not my rights getting destroyed. when people of color or LGBTQ people outright hate conservatives, I cannot blame them at all.

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Anonymous

#8 1w

You proved my point. They are assholes who are conservatives. I never said that it stopped me from being genuine. Just that those were my experiences the same way OP has negative experiences with liberals.

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Anonymous

#8 1w

Ia this a genuine question or are you going to start an argument over it?

Anonymous

strawberry_hair 1w

It’s a genuine question but if I disagree with you then it’s technically an argument. I’m not rage baiting if that’s what ur asking

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Anonymous

#8 1w

Yeah I was asking if you were rage baiting. There’s a lot of rights that have been taken away from women. I could start and explain Roe V Wade but the one I am most concerned about is the attempt to get the Save Act passed. Also of course, ICE has been what is basically kidnapping people off the street and it’s become a lot more problematic to be just openly different from the expectation of America.

Anonymous

strawberry_hair 1w

Even though I disagree with abortion, I understand your point of view on it. In my mind, the baby also has the right to life, so that’s my perspective. I think the SAVE act would be great at preventing fraudulent voters, but if it passes then the government should make getting IDs free to prevent a poll tax. Illegal immigrants don’t have a “right” to stay in the country as they have broken the law, on the other hand, ICE is untrained and not going about it correctly.

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Anonymous

strawberry_hair 1w

I’m not trying to change your mind, I just want you to understand my perspective and that conservatives are not all “raaaah I hate liberals and women and want to kill immigrants arghhh”. We do have some bad apples but they are the loud ones so they stand out the most

Anonymous

#2 1w

I disagree with your sentiments but I’m not gonna elaborate because you’re angry and not in a state to see both sides perspectives.

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Anonymous

#8 1w

For the save act we don’t have a lot of fraudulent voters. The problem is if they did make it pass there is no way they would make ID’s free. If they did I wouldn’t care. But because it’s going to heavily affect female voters, who vote democrat mostly, it’s just a way to try and make their people win more.

Anonymous

strawberry_hair 1w

I can see how the SAVE act has some issues that haven’t been ironed out yet, I still think some form of voter fraud prevention and citizenship verification should be implemented, especially since the last 3 elections have been decided by a 1%-2% margin. Even if it only happens a little, it has a big impact. The SAVE act might not be the correct solution, but a solution is needed.

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Anonymous

#8 1w

But even if it’s been decided by those small margins we have less than 50 cases of voter fraud from people. We need to be more worried about how those in power are doing this to influence the election, rather than make it harder for the average person to vote. Americans already don’t vote enough

Anonymous

strawberry_hair 1w

How about we settle our differences and just treat the Epstein files like a hit list lol. I feel like that would solve a lot of corruption issues. 😯👍

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Anonymous

#8 1w

Agreed. Jail time for everyone in the Epstein files as having assisted him and make sharing sexual assault stories more normalized so this shit never happens again

Anonymous

strawberry_hair 1w

Fr, also I’m not for “redistribution of wealth” but billionaires should not exist bro 😭. That is so unnatural and should be indicative that something fishy and probably evil is happening.

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Anonymous

#8 1w

I am for the redistribution of wealth because of how it’s so systemic. To be poor costs more money than to be rich in some cases (example: buying in bulk). It’s made for them to have worse levels of education and our college system makes it nearly impossible to escape one’s circumstances if they were not lucky enough to be born into a family with wealth.

Anonymous

#8 1w

That made 0 sense bc I’m not angry