Wow the way you wrote this sounds so educated and once you take a second to really think about what you’re saying, you realize it’s actually just ignorant and uneducated. unfortunate

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Respectfully, not everyone’s body responds to ‘just eat healthy and exercise.’ I’ve spent years trying—through sports, disordered eating, and medical issues—and nothing worked the way people assume it should. This treatment isn’t a shortcut, it’s the first thing that’s actually helped regulate my body in a healthy way. We’ve also been trying to conceive for over a year, and this is giving me a real chance at pursuing IVF. For me, this is part of a healthier lifestyle. But thanks for your input.

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Anonymous OP 1d

I don’t mean to come off as insensitive, as this is definitely a big milestone that anyone would be happy to achieve. However, the laws of thermodynamics do not allow mass to simply appear out of nowhere. If you consume less calories than you burn, it is physically impossible to gain weight. This is not debatable. Though it is fair to say that this is much easier said than done. Simply think about how GLP-1 drugs work. They make you eat less. That’s the key. Regardless, -50lbs is a huge win.

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Anonymous #4 1d

When I was in high school, I became very careful with how many calories I was consuming. I was eating less than 1500 calories a day, and had my main sport, 4 hour practices a day. And then musical, which was 3 hours a day of constant exercise and dancing. And I’d go to the gym. I was working off 2000 calories a day. And yet id still gain weight. So no. That is debatable. Everyone’s body is different. Multiple doctors were stumped because I should’ve been losing weight.

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Anonymous #2 1d

I’d like you to educate me on how peptides work, please. Specifically GLP-1 receptor agonists. Do they alter your body in a way that was unachievable naturally, or do they simply lower your cravings for food, causing you to eat less? Do individuals often regain 50-80% of the lost weight after stopping GLP-1s? Why don’t they keep it off if it’s truly a lifestyle change, not just a temporary diet change?

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Anonymous #4 1d

Yes, GLP-1s cause the digestion system to slow down. But I’m eating the same amount of food and calories as I have been for years. On top of working out. I needed an extra push. And I understand it wasn’t meant to come off as insensitive. But it did. You are not my doctor. And if multiple doctors suggested this medication because of the years of failing to lose it. I’m taking their advice and their treatment.

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Anonymous #4 1d

you are no ones doctor, no ones nutritionist, no ones, dietician, no ones weight loss therapist, and you do not know the OP or what you are talking about in general. years of medic research and science show that eating in a caloric deficit is not the healthiest way for everyone to lose weight. For example, someone with lymphedema metabolize calories into extra fat depostion. They cannot just eat less and manage their condition, and the fat they gain weighs more. Not everyone is the same.

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Anonymous OP 1d

I’m sorry but you either did not count your calories accurately, or weren’t burning as many calories as you thought. Running 1 mile is roughly equivalent to not eating a single banana (-100 cal). If you take two scoops out of a bucket of sand, but only put one back in, does the bucket weigh more or less? This is the 1st law of thermodynamics. Again, think of how GLP-1 drugs work, they simply reduce your tendency to eat. Eating less is how you lose weight. That’s really all there is to it.

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Anonymous OP 1d

I’m not saying that using GLP-1s are inherently wrong, but to the comment saying it’s a “healthier lifestyle” I just don’t agree, and that’s why I commented. The reason your doctor prescribed you this medication is because you cannot adequately control your caloric intake. I don’t mean that in a bad way but it’s true. If that’s what works for you, then by all means do it.

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I’m sorry but you don’t get to tell someone how their body works. I was always super skinny and played many sports until I got thyroid cancer and had to take my thyroid out I gained a bunch of weight that my endocrinologist said wouldn’t come off naturally due to my thyroid levels being low and taking synthetic thyroid hormones to replace what my thyroid would make since it was taken out. So no not everyone can just cut calories and work out to get the weight off.

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Anonymous #5 1d

keep telling yourself that. this is why obesity is such a problem in the US. when’s the last time you saw a starving person who was obese?

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Anonymous #2 1d

and neither are you so quit trying to get around the laws of thermodynamics and just accept the fact that most people don’t have what it takes to change themselves. this mindset is exactly the reason why america is so fat and you know it. go to literally any other country and you will see this with your own eyes.

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Anonymous #4 1d

Are you anorexic or smth? The only reason I can imagine you have such a strong hateful opinion on this, is that you hate yourself and think you lack self control. I was once insecure in my body and the thoughts I had abt myself got projected onto others bc I thought i didn’t have any self control. I’ve gone to the gym and gotten skinny and I like myself now. But at NO point would I have EVER gone online to shame someone in an already vulnerable position who is ACTIVELY bettering themselves

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Anonymous #2 1d

I’m actually pretty lean and ripped as fuck but you don’t want to believe that. I used to hate my body more than anyone so I’ll be the first to tell someone that lying to yourself is only going to make it worse. Until you accept reality you’re never going to fix the problem. I used to hate myself, I used to lack self control, I used to blame everything and everyone but myself. Until I changed that, nothing ever changed. You of all people should know this if what you say is true.

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Anonymous #4 1d

lmao what? are you ok? I’ve never had any issues losing weight naturally until I literally got cancer and took out the organ that supports an runs almost everything in your body. I was quite literally starving myself at one point and nothing changed until I used zepbound to get the ball rolling and haven’t gained any weight back since I’ve been off of it since like december

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Anonymous #4 1d

I have no doubt that you’re lean. I 100% doubt that you have any level of confidence or love for yourself at any size. Like I said, no one who is genuinely confident and genuinely likes themselves, would dedicate so much energy into trying to force someone adopt the same mindset you have, which is that they are less than. You sound so unhappy that im genuinely sorry you feel this way

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Anonymous #5 1d

If zepbound is the reason you lost weight then it was your eating habits that were holding you back. In the end it’s calories in vs calories out, which you are clear evidence of if zepbound is truly the reason you lost weight. Look into how GLP-1 agonists work and you’ll see the results come from decreased caloric intake caused by a decrease in appetite. If you think I’m wrong then you are indirectly claiming that the first law of thermodynamics is false and your argument is complete nonsense.

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Anonymous #2 1d

I don’t completely disagree with you but I’m not saying this to try and make someone feel lesser. They need to accept the reality of their situation and take responsibility for where they are. Until they realize this then the root problem will never go away. I’ll be honest, it does irk me when people blame their inability to control their weight on some physical impossibility. It validates this type of thinking in other people and causes them to fall into the same trap.

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Anonymous #2 1d

Also, you’re correct to think that I am not confident in my body nor do I have much if any love for myself. That’s why I go to the gym 6 days a week and eat the way I do. However, this has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that calories in vs. calories out is the nearly the sole driver of weight loss/gain. To believe otherwise is lying to yourself and will get you nowhere.

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Anonymous #4 1d

I appreciate your willingness to admit your insecurity, but I want you to realize that without knowing you, simply based on your attitude, I could sense it. Not only are you just medically incorrect, but your own insecurity is blinding you from realizing that your intentions are irrelevant when the impact of your actions and words is hatred, insecurity, and literal misinformation.

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Anonymous #4 1d

Yes it helped but it was also getting my thyroid hormones at a normal level and fixing my thyroid medication. As well as having somewhat proper endocrine and metabolic function once my levels were at baseline. Before my levels were normal they were dangerously low to the point my organs were slowly shutting down and I was at severe risk of heart failure and I was gaining ten pounds a week without eating ever so don’t try and tell me that’s normal or that it was because of my caloric intake.

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Anonymous #4 1d

When i first got into the gym, I also believed that weight loss depended entirely on burning more calories than you consume. However, am older and more educated now, and while I don’t struggle at all to eat less and regulate my weight, I’m well aware of and sympathetic to the personal, social, financial, and medical barriers there are to losing weight. It isn’t always JUST eating less and moving more. And i hope that in future, even if you don’t realize that, you can at least be less hateful

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Anonymous #2 1d

It’s not hateful to tell someone what they need to hear. If they take it as hate then that’s another problem entirely.

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Anonymous #4 1d

I know you truly believe in that law but go look up what having no thyroid or thyroid hormones does to your body and weight. Having hypothyroidism means you don’t produce enough of the hormones vital to your endocrine system and metabolism so what happens when your metabolism isn’t working at a normal rate you gain weight regardless of your caloric intake or exercise.

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Anonymous #5 1d

“I was gaining ten pounds a week without eating ever”. If you truly believe this then I feel sorry for you. If you’re not eating then where do you think that mass came from? Thyroid issues or not, mass cannot be created out of thin air. Anyone with a basic understanding of physics knows this and I’m sure you do too.

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Anonymous #4 1d

That’s not how it works because the body is adaptable and that can result in less calories being burned than expected or more also calories aren’t actually real solid numbers, they’re an estimate 1g (of food) being burned= heat necessary to be raised by 1°C (of water ) Now you claim to know thermodynamics so tell me the laws and how they can be applied because that ain’t science honey.

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Anonymous #4 1d

Bigger question, why tf are you so concerned with what tf other people do in their own personal lives?

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Anonymous OP 1d

You’ve been in a calorie deficit so long it is no longer a deficit

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Anonymous #5 1d

“I know you truly believe in that law but…” What? The first law of thermodynamics? Do you genuinely not believe that? It’s been proven beyond any doubt and is the basis of nearly all of modern physics. If you don’t think it’s true then you have far greater issues than what can be addressed here.

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Anonymous #4 1d

Maybe ya don’t get it

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Anonymous #4 1d

It’s honestly so sad because everyone has been replying to #4 trying to educate them but they’re so unwilling to listen. Instead they’re insecure and uneducated, and using it to miseducate and breed insecurity in others. Very unfortunate

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Anonymous #4 1d

I do believe in it but it doesn’t supersede the basics of how your body, endocrine system, and metabolism functions. And I think my endocrinologist telling me that the root cause was my thyroid issues is what i’m going to believe because he’s the licensed professional that went to school for years to treat these specific things he’s literally a thyroid and weight specialist 😭😭

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Anonymous #8 1d

You’re living proof of the Dunning Kruger effect. Anyone with a basic understanding of physics knows that mass cannot be created out of thin air and therefore you cannot gain mass if you don’t put anything in. The definition of what a calorie is has absolutely nothing to do with that. You clearly don’t know anything about physics so you’d be better off starting with physics 101 than me trying to explain to you what the “conservation of energy” really means.

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Anonymous #8 1d

Why am I so concerned with what other people do in their own lives? Because I don’t want them falling into the same trap I did. Lying to yourself will get you nowhere.

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Anonymous #4 1d

You’re not even accounting for the fact that fat is not the only thing the scale picks up on. Perhaps someones calories metabolize more into muscle than fat, or their fat is more dense, or their body holds more water. Like you’re actually so ignorant and so freaking uneducated that reading you doubling down on it over and over is beginning to frustrate me 😭 I can’t stand stupid people they’re too hard to teach

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Anonymous #5 1d

And the basics of how the human body works does not supersede the laws of physics. It’s genuinely impossible to have a reasonable discussion with you when you fail to understand this. If your endocrinologist said it’s possible to gain weight without eating anything at all then I hate to tell you but they’re wrong. You cannot let authority bias overwrite your understanding of what is known to be fact.

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Anonymous #4 1d

Are you slow? I’ve done enough research on my own and listened to my specialist to understand what’s going on in my body. I was just trying to give you my perspective but I don’t need you to validate my experience. I hope you can open your perspective and truly understand medicine and the body because you’re mindset most likely going to be harmful to you in the long run.

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Anonymous #2 1d

Good lord, the irony is palpable here. Whether it’s fat, muscle, water, pure gold, I don’t care. Mass does not come out of thin air regardless of what that mass is. If you don’t believe this then I have nothing left to say to you. Eat less and lose weight, or don’t. Not my problem.

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Anonymous #4 1d

lmao ok I gained the weight and I know what I ate so thanks for trying to tell me about my body and again I’m going to listen to the licensed specialist over someone on yy who’s only claim is physics

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Anonymous #5 1d

“who’s only claim is physics” So am I supposed the believe the person who can’t use apostrophes correctly and doesn’t believe that the laws of physics hold true because of what some authority figure says? The word you’re looking for is “whose”, by the way. Maybe get educated before you start talking out of your ass.

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Anonymous #4 1d

Has it ceccured to you that literally no one else is in agreement with you? Are you so self-important that you really think you’re the ONLY person who knows anything about physics, thermodynamics, and weight loss? Like not a single person has agreed with you, and you haven’t even thought “maybe im wrong?”

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Anonymous #4 1d

I am educated excuse me for typing a quick comment and not proof reading 😭 I’m literally Pre Physical Therapy so I think I’m pretty educated. I’ve had multiple specialists tell me the same things so it’s not just “an authority” figure.

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Anonymous #5 1d

Multiple specialists have told you that weight can be gained out of thin air? I highly doubt that.

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Anonymous #2 1d

Has it occurred to you that fact has nothing to do with how many people agree with something? People used to think the earth was flat but that doesn’t make it true. You are all so inconceivably far from help that I don’t even think you can help yourselves at this point. Stay fat, not my problem. I’ll be walking around with the body of my dreams while y’all cry and whine on the internet about your body defies the laws of physics. Have fun with that.

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Anonymous #4 1d

lmao I am not fat for your information. I lost the weight and I’m eating more than before and I’m not gaining any weight so clearly it was a metabolism/endocrine issues and not physics

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Anonymous #4 1d

oml I’m done arguing with you. I was eating just not enough to warrant that kind of weight gain

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Anonymous #4 1d

When will you have the body of your dreams if, as you claim, you have been both very fat and very lean, and hated yourself at both weights 😭??? you’ll never have the body of your dreams because you hate the way you yourself.

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Anonymous #2 1d

Because of the way you hate yourself*

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Anonymous #4 1d

bruh stfu. nobody cares about your thermodynamics bullshit. just say congratulations and move on. ain’t nobody ask for your opinions and what you think a healthy lifestyle should look like. everyone’s different. hormones can also be a reason for weight gain and holding weight. you’re being a dickhead.

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Anonymous #10 1d

Nobody asked for your opinion either but you don’t see me whining. I’m just encouraging people to take responsibility instead of blaming everything but themselves. Maybe I am being a dickhead, but the truth ain’t always easy. It was nice talking but I’m gonna go hit the gym and take responsibility for my life. Y’all should try it sometime.

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Anonymous #4 1d

I am 20 pounds down and the lightest I’ve been since I was in middle school for me my metabolism doesn’t work enough no matter how many calories I burn and how healthy I eat I would still either gain weight or nothing would change after years of working with my primary care and a bariatric clinic to loose weight without surgery or meds we finally made the decision to put me on meds so sometimes it’s not about someone diet or exercise routine it’s that their body physically doesn’t metabolize

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Anonymous #11 1d

Congrats on the weight loss. It feels great to get closer to your goals and 20lbs is great progress. Nice work. I’d like to make it clear that my point wasn’t that calories in vs. calories out works exactly the same for everyone. It’s that mass doesn’t come out of thin air and nothing about one’s biology can change that. Btw, if your body physically couldn’t metabolize food into energy then you would starve to death. Anyways, congrats again on the weight loss. Peace ✌️

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Anonymous #4 1d

I didn’t mean it on it can’t metabolize I meant I have a slower metabolism and on top of that insulin resistance and PCOS (which is all genetic) so healthy eating and exercise while it does make me healthier as a person it doesn’t drop my weight because my body won’t metabolize the fat in my body enough it holds on to it more that it gets rid of it a shot helps it metabolize faster so I don’t retain as much fat and what I do burn actually drops

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Anonymous #11 1d

this idk why he can’t understand it’s not just caloric intake and exercise it has to do with how your body processes the food and the fat that you have

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Anonymous #5 1d

Idk why y’all can’t understand that your body is subject to the same laws that all other matter in the universe is. If you gain weight you absolutely must be taking in more calories than you burn. There are no exceptions. Maybe you burn calories at a different rate, it still doesn’t matter. If, on average, YOU consume less calories than YOUR BODY burns, it is physically impossible to gain weight unless you can somehow create energy out of nothing. I have no idea why you cannot understand this.

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Anonymous #4 4h

Question, dont weightloss shots just cut your appetite, making you consume less calories which causes the weightloss? I didn’t read the entire argument but based off your first comment and last you’re right so wtf is the argument about ??

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Anonymous #4 56m

#4, ya you’re correct. the whole point of glp 1 is that is reduces your appetite, which in turn reduces your calories consumed, which makes you lose weight. opposition of this argument is emotion-based, but this conversation has definitely gone elsewhere!!

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