Anonymous #2 4d

Yea I think this is what I was questioning? Like I don’t think there is a socialization to not eat others people just don’t have a desire to. Unfortunately some people do have a desire for sex in a way that is nonconsentual

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Anonymous #1 4d

If some sick people do have an innate desire for that, that needs to be identified as soon as possible to put them in a care system that prepares them to function as productive and moral members of society. Although frankly, I think if someone is raised correctly in a loving family they develop the moral compass and empathy to not have that sickness.

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Anonymous #3 4d

Well I didn’t say innate i just said desire

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Anonymous #3 4d

When polled, most rapists are well aware that what they did was wrong. They simply didn’t care.

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Anonymous pirosnake 4d

To be clear, when I referring to “any decent man”, that group does NOT include rapists

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Anonymous #4 4d

I’d say shoot me dead I’m not doing either

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Anonymous #1 4d

If the desire is chosen then they are a danger that needs to be dealt with. Prison or castration if they did it, monitoring and mental evaluation if it was somehow determined that they will/could

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Anonymous inphochewated 4d

as less than

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Anonymous #7 4d

i really dont think that that is true

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Anonymous inphochewated 4d

How would you recommend the patriarchy be “eaten”, and what would society look like after this was done? However, idk if traits like risk taking is that significant at all when it comes to crime, that mainly would just affect how careful they are about it. Anyone who commits heinous crimes is mentally disturbed or lacks a conscience, and I believe that is solved by ensuring children grow up in loving families that can help teach their moral compass and guide them to develop into ethical people.

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Anonymous OP 4d

I've never met someone who hasn't been excessively taught that rape is a terrible thing to do

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Anonymous #3 4d

if you’re more risk averse the cost benefit analysis of committing any crime, not just violent crime, swings heavily toward “i will be a lawful person because the risk is so deterring for me.” so risk taking ARE correlated to crimes, torts, etc. you learn about it in law school.

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Anonymous #13 4d

Correction: I don’t think they are the *main* significant reason for crimes being committed. I think a good moral upbringing with supersede any risk taking inclinations.

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Anonymous #3 4d

The phrase means something similar to “Eat the rich”: it means to uproot the systems of power which exist to oppress and victimize the masses. That being said, a lot of people commit crimes without being mentally disturbed or lacking conscious. Rape can occur through the misunderstanding of verbal or nonverbal queues. To eat the patriarchy would be to remove perpetuators of a cultural components that contribute to rape. The whole “no means yes” for example. Or “your body, my choice”

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Anonymous #15 3d

Important to have healthy environments where people can discuss kinks and ways to enjoy alternative lifestyles instead of shutting this down and suggesting abstinence as a method of control, it leaves people feeling more out of control and makes it harder to understand what they’re experiencing and how to have positive discussions about it as a whole.

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Anonymous #15 3d

Sure, it’s important to be understanding but I’m a bit confused why you would bring this up. We are all talking about rape here, a horrific crime.

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Anonymous #3 3d

Because while the line between CNC type activities and rape is VERY black and white I think it’s incredibly important to understand the drive behind dominant behaviors and how this can become distorted in twisted individuals, and unlike a poster above me said I don’t think banning porn or access to communities that openly discuss kink themed topics (often associated with porn) is any kind of solution to reduce rape.

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Anonymous #3 3d

I’d also like to add that when surveyed by Eugene Kanin anonymously 40% of men surveyed responded they would have sex with a women against her will if there were no consequences

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Anonymous #7 3d

I actually disagree you THINK you’ve never met someone who hasn’t been taught that rape is a terrible thing to do but if 1 in 3 women are experiencing sexual violence and on the average estimate of 1 in every 10 men has committed rape according to a study in 2002 (so I will say that’s a little old of a number but still) then you most likely know a lot more people who weren’t taught enough that rape isn’t permissible

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Anonymous #10 3d

Those are weird things to think about Brodie

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Anonymous inphochewated 3d

It is rather difficult to socialize out the effects of high levels of testosterone during critical development. I’d suggest we instead focus on embracing these behaviors and setting up appropriate mentorship pipelines so boys and young men can learn how to channel and control their energy to help others. Eating the patriarchy achieves nothing if you don’t replace it as well. What would you put in its stead?

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Anonymous #21 3d

I wholeheartedly agree with the last bit. No idea what we’d put in its stead, but that does not mean that what we currently have works and isn’t the leading cause of… most of the problems we have today. Which behaviors are you saying we should embrace in the second blurb?

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Anonymous inphochewated 3d

I’m leery about tearing anything down without a replacement ready to go tbh. The default state of unstructured society is a lot worse than what we have now in my opinion. The behaviors are increased risk taking, physicality, and aggression. These are all known effects of testosterone, not just a result of poor socialization. The idea that we can socialize boys out of these tendencies will not get us very far.

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Anonymous #3 3d

How would I recommend the patriarchal head of the hydra that plagues mankind be eaten? By also eating the white-supremacist and capitalist heads that allow all 3 of them to perpetuate each other. How would I do THAT? Well, I’m one nigga, so I can’t do shit alone. It’s requires a collective effort from everyone, namely those who do not are not billionaires. For one to take a “risk,” especially one that is criminal, they need to have an opportunity and a motive. Up until recently, men had the

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Anonymous inphochewated 3d

most opportunities BY FAR to actually take a risk due usually having the most power/influence in most societies. Including our own. As for motive, women (until very recently) were socialized to be subservient to men and not horny, so committing rape would serve them (the avg woman) little to no purpose in terms of moving up socially, where as men were essentially ostracized for getting no play and felt no choice but to get some by any means necessary. Men being raised to take risks has LOTS to

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Anonymous inphochewated 3d

do with men doing things that they may understand as “wrong” for their own benefit in the short or seemingly long term. Men don’t need to lack a conscious or be mentally disturbed to do these things. They just need to lack empathy for most other people. Even selective empathy is enough to do these things. Case and point, the last 250 years of American history 🤢

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Anonymous #3 3d

I agree with the last bit tho. But how do you ensure a family won’t teach their child that empathy is a weakness? That they need to knock others down to raise themselves up? That easy access to sex = manhood? That Naoya Zenin is in fact, NOT a good role model?

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Anonymous #21 3d

I disagree with the very last sentiment, as the fact that the average man is NOT a threat to everyone around them shows the power of socializing. Yes, those are effects of testosterone. I do think, however, that the only way one will learn to conduct themselves around others is proper socialization at a young age. We just need more emphasis on not exhibiting those traits JUST to get a leg up in ways that do not matter at the expense of everyone else. And also emphasis on not encouraging others

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Anonymous inphochewated 3d

When they are destructive

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Anonymous inphochewated 3d

In order to commit something horrific like rape, someone would need to lack empathy to an extent that it would have to be classified as a mental illness, normal people can’t justify that. Also, people without empathy can still exhibit more behavior.

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Anonymous #17 3d

it's clear you're not a guy cause we're all taught that its a terrible thing to do since day one. rapists know its a terrible thing to do. it doesnt stop them from doing it. we're all taught that murder is bad yet it happens all the time. you just have to accept there will always be bad people in whatever society you are in.

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Anonymous #3 3d

This reminds me of this one professor who did brain scans of serial killers and realized they all had a similar brain deficiency of brain activity in a certain area. So he ran a study to see if he could find it in living people. He ran the study and found one, and when he looked into the data so he could warn them he realized it was himself. However, despite being a clinical psychopath, he had a family and was a moral person and never had the desire to do wrong even tho he had the ability to

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Anonymous #17 3d

Idk why you being downvoted. Look at Countries like Indian and the atrocities they commit to their women and even family members, from sexual crimes to violent public humiliations of women due to them stepping away from the status quo. It’s awful. These things shouldn’t have to be seen as crimes first to realize you should never do this to another living being.

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Anonymous #24 3d

It’s like how some people act like consent suddenly changes when you get married—there are still lingering ideas of rape (nonconsensual intercourse) being okay if X factor. These ideas still linger.

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Anonymous #3 3d

Ah… lwk forgot that we do classify that as a mental illness depending on severity… you got me there ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Anonymous #15 3d

Idk much about that but acting out stuff like that for pleasure seems pretty twisted. Not trying to kink shame tho I just think that anyone into that sort of thing should question why they are into that and consider therapy. Besides, if someone is attracted to the look of something that resembles a crime, idk if that is something that should be encouraged. However, counseling and family support can be helpful and if they haven’t done any crimes yet provide preventative and rehabilitative care.

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Anonymous #7 3d

I’m not saying they aren’t being taught it’s bad I’m saying they aren’t being taught it’s bad as effectively as cannibalism. Quite frankly cannibalism is like 0.01% of all deaths in the US, and until sex assault and rape are within similar ranges of occurrence I’m going to say my credible sources information shows that rape is not as strongly unthinkable to people

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Anonymous #17 3d

Just because people are being taught in some instances rape is bad doesn’t mean that they are being effectively taught how to not be rapists. Especially when there are men publicly getting reduced sentences and pardoning on sexual assault crimes in our country rn because that’s not reinforcing to people just how unthinkable rape is.

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Anonymous #25 3d

“What shitty group of guys I grew up with” like 80% of violent crimes arent committed by men 70% of non violent, 93% of incarcerated people are men, 99% of rapists are male, 90% of mass shootings are males, 60% of all child abuse cases to have a male perpetrators even though women outnumber men in population.

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Anonymous #17 3d

These are real statistics you can research and real studies showing that assault and rape are not being as heavily demonized as you believe yes mental illness is a factor but there is also a cultural impact in why the US is showing these numbers and other countries with different values have different statistics

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Anonymous #17 3d

Just saying I don’t know a single man in my life that has gone to prison. The point I’m making is idk where these men are. It’s the communities you surround yourself with.

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Anonymous #25 3d

Idk ab you but for me it was my dad- sooo… not really a community you choose

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Anonymous #20 3d

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Anonymous #17 3d

the difference is that unfortunately, many sick individuals have a biological drive to do it. its literally a hereditary reproduction tactic that can be seen across species, despite how wrong it is. rapists know they are terrible people for doing what they do. they will always exist no matter how much we change society, the only things we can do is punish them fully (castration is an extreme example but it works in my opinion) and protect women better.

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