Anonymous #1 9w

Therapy will stop you from being an insufferable bitch. A woman will never love you if you don’t love yourself. But sure keep telling everyone your lack of ability to get someone is somehow the universe or a woman’s fault.

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Anonymous #4 9w

True women don’t like a self loathing man

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Anonymous OP 9w

A woman will also never love you if you’re unattractive

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Anonymous #1 9w

Exactly and your personality sounds incredibly unattractive ~A chopped dude who has also pulled women

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Anonymous OP 9w

You’re not chopped then 🤷‍♂️ congrats

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Anonymous #2 9w

No one wants to date someone who cant believe that their partner could love them

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Anonymous #1 9w

If you define a chopped man as one who can’t pull girls then of course you’re right

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Anonymous OP 9w

You sound very bitter ngl

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Anonymous #5 9w

Nah I’m just tired of men who sit around all do being useless and then wonder why they can’t pull.

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Anonymous OP 9w

Wdym by useless?

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Anonymous #7 9w

Umm go to the gym like every other dude who cares about himself, go to therapy and get a fucking job. Fix your own problems instead of exaggerating and expecting women (or other men) to feel bad and fix them for you.

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Anonymous #1 9w

Attraction is more than what you look like. Emotional intelligence is incredibly attractive for most women. It’s a great skill you can pick up in therapy. Hot guys that act like douches are easily a 0/10.

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Anonymous #5 9w

Dont put any work into themselves, constantly complain and/or demean women, have obvious personality flaws they refuse to fix, don’t even try to find work etc.

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Anonymous OP 9w

I do both of those things dawg I just don’t go to therapy because it’s genuinely useless

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Anonymous #7 9w

Either find a therapist that works for you or accept that you are never going to find a woman. But in either case you must be accountable to your own actions.

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Anonymous OP 9w

I did accept I’m never going to find a woman twin💀

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Anonymous OP 9w

Do you think it’s possible for a useful man to struggle with dating?

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Anonymous #3 9w

so true

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Anonymous #5 9w

Absolutely. However such useful men are also actively working to change their reality instead of posting up to yikyak complaints about women and not doing shit to change themselves.

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Anonymous #7 9w

Good now stop crying lmao

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Anonymous OP 9w

Wasn’t crying lmao

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Anonymous OP 9w

I didn’t ask about that. Anyway, what might cause a useful man to struggle with dating?

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Anonymous OP 9w

Are you okay?

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Anonymous #5 9w

Looking in the wrong places, not understanding how to talk to women, coming off as a creep, being uninteresting…

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Anonymous #5 9w

Yep. Are you?

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Anonymous OP 9w

Do you think it’s possible that you’ve greatly overestimated the percentage of men who struggle with dating that are useless, and consequently underestimated the percentage that are useful, but simply fall short in those areas?

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Anonymous OP 9w

I’m exhausted.

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Anonymous OP 9w

Furthermore, what consequences could you imagine arising as a result of inadvertently labeling awkward but otherwise useful men as useless? Could it be that, perhaps, such a sustained, dogmatic mischaracterization could foster resentment among men who are simply neurodivergent or unlucky?

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Anonymous #5 9w

Nope. Because even the ugliest most autistic or physically unattractive men on this world have found love. Any man who believes that zero out of the few billion women in this world could possibly want him (assuming he is of high value) is delusional.

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Anonymous #5 9w

And no because most men that have these complaints have things that are easy for us to see that are wrong with them. Things that a therapist could easily point out and work on. Men just don’t want to do the work. Full stop!

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Anonymous #5 9w

Great. You should get some rest then

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Anonymous OP 9w

I didn’t ask about belief. Nor did I ask for you to provide examples of statistical outliers. Approximately 11% to 18% of autistic men get married, compared to roughly 50% of the neurotypical population. Are autistic men more useless than neurotypical ones? Are neurotypical ones higher in value?

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Anonymous OP 9w

Oh, but how could I pass up the opportunity to speak with such a perfect judge of character as yourself? What kind of man would I be to not take that chance?

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Anonymous #5 9w

What’s your source for these stats? Is it guaranteed every one of those men wants to get married? This society is capitalist anyway— the ones who work the hardest get the most reward. What happened to that mentality?

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Anonymous OP 9w

“Ones that work the hardest get the most reward” 😭😭😭

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Anonymous #5 9w

Yep because I have had a lot of shit going against me in my life and dating hasn’t been much of an issue for me. So maybe yall should stop typing and start meditating fr.

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Anonymous #3 9w

It’s true. Yall men seem to worship the rich anyway. Go to the gym, improve your personality, and go to work. If you want a woman, act like she’s something you have to earn, not like a servant who will willingly just pull you up by your bootstraps.

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Anonymous OP 9w

The estimates I could find varied depending on age bracket, but they all fell within that range. Here’s one source among many: https://www.keyautismservices.com/blog/do-autistic-people-get-married

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Anonymous OP 9w

Are you not also a man? If so, why refer to us as “yall men”?

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Anonymous OP 9w

Are you a capitalist?

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Anonymous OP 9w

You do realize a lot of things in life come down to luck, also it’s just not true. Many people work hard as shit but get crushed by the system that is purposely designed against them (not referring to women)

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Anonymous #3 9w

If you are a man you have near infinite privelege. It’s all about mindset.

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Anonymous OP 9w

You can’t be fr

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Anonymous #3 9w

Im 100% for real. Again im a unattractive chud and dont have these issues. I just decided not to waste my time complaining about my looks and guess what women started talking to me.

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Anonymous OP 9w

That is quite the tone shift.

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Anonymous OP 9w

Yeah you just gotta be rage baiting

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Anonymous #3 9w

No, this one is a true believer.

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Anonymous OP 9w

You seem to be advocating a sort of asymmetrical sexual capitalism, wherein certain protected classes are deemed entitled to provision by virtue of their immutable characteristics, whereas other unprotected classes are born onto the trading floor of a ruthless, unforgiving stock exchange by vice of their immutable characteristics.

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Anonymous #5 9w

Except that in this society you have to power to choose who you are and how you present yourself. If things are not working for you, better yourself. You have still not provided any rebuttal to that argument. Yes some people will be more datable than others because they’ve spent the time making themselves attractive. So many men waste their time crying and pouting on the floor hoping a girl will save them and then when she does come, they disrespect her to shit.

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Anonymous OP 9w

And for the autistic argument. Yea I t does suck that some people are born with various setbacks in their lives but one of my favorite coworkers is actually autistic and he has a wife and kids. So you just have to do the work and commit to overcoming your challenges (therapy)

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Anonymous #5 9w

The world is unfair by default and the dating market especially so. Some are born with innate advantages in romance and others will prob have to put in disproportionate effort to see success. But it’s unhealthy and unproductive to catalog all the ways in which the dating market is unfair or lopsided, I would much rather be friends with someone who had OP’s mindset than 5’s mindset

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Anonymous OP 9w

You started this paragraph as if you were going to correct my understanding of your position, but you then went on to validate it completely. Your grievance is that more and more of the people born on the trading floor are getting tired of the rat race, which you seem to view as a defect rather than a signal of structural insufficiency.

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Anonymous #2 9w

A good Personality will always eventually bring real asf friends and a good partner (if you want one). Looks without personality may get you sex and attention but nothing more…

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Anonymous #5 9w

The point is you lay on the floor comparing about who you aren’t hoping some woman will rescue you and do your inner work for you. That don’t happen bro and it’s very selfish to think that it will.

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Anonymous OP 9w

“maybe y’all should stop buying all that damn avocado toast and $6 lattes and pull yourself up by your bootstraps! Just walk into Google, hand them your resume, and give a firm handshake.”

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Anonymous #5 9w

Perfect analogy tbh

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Anyway I have my doubts that “he” is actually a he at all after reading this thread. Tbh I don’t care what they say, we both know what the truth is at the end of the day🤷‍♂️

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Anonymous #7 9w

He’s just a bootlicker with an acquired taste for high heels.

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Anonymous #5 9w

Except that if you did that for long enough and worked for it, you’d have a job. Men seriously don’t want to work anymore. Immigrants used to work night shifts in the mines just to feed their families and now they doing quite well with wives too.

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Anonymous OP 9w

Call me crazy but I don’t think slaving away in the mines at 3AM is the ideal human condition

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Anonymous #5 9w

Every age presents us with new challenges and it’s ok to struggle with aspects of life, but I think it’s important to appreciate how lucky we are both on a global and historic scale. And you’re never gonna be able to change society if you can’t change yourself and get your own life started

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Anonymous OP 9w

Referring to men as if you supposedly aren’t one yourself🤔

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Anonymous #2 9w

I agree with you.

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Anonymous #5 9w

Success is not meant to be comfortable. Nothing in America to start is the ideal human condition

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Anonymous OP 9w

You seek to foster discomfort? By all means, lead by example. The mines are still there, you know. Oh, and don’t bother getting health insurance, we don’t do handouts around here, right?

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Anonymous OP 9w

Dude you must have rocks for brains, no one has truly ever wanted to work if they didn’t have to, the job market is fucked rn, and stop pretending that if you just work hard you’ll be successful. You know how the richest people got where they are, it’s nepotism and cheating the system and that usually comes with disregarding morals

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Anonymous #11 9w

EXACTLY AND THATS WHAT I KEEP TRYING TO SAY. Men will come to me and say “how do you talk to women” and I’ll be like “like she’s a human being of equal status to you” and then they’ll be like wtf you cap bro. Then they’ll complain about women 24/7. And I’m like I don’t got any secrets. It’s your choice whether you want to be desirable or not. What women say about men isn’t in a vacuum anyway. Even other men can see it…

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Anonymous OP 9w

They want to be saved by a girl and whenever women save men, we all get to hear about how shitty he treated her (and often abusive). Men with "save me" mentality often just really want a escort...

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Anonymous OP 9w

“He don’t wanna be saved don’t save him”

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Anonymous #12 8w

on a side note, that scumbag Andrew Tate finally got arrested🎉🎉

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