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Why do yall (guys) think the male loneliness epidemic is happening?
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Anonymous 1w

No third spaces, lack of vulnerability, phones/online spaces

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Anonymous 1w

I’m not necessarily super lonely because I have a ton of friends and a super active social life but I’ve always struggled romantically and it does affect me on some level. I just feel like for whatever reason I have zero concept of how to navigate the dating scene. Talking stages, situationships, ect. I just really don’t understand it at all and I just wish that some day I could find love

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Anonymous 1w

People just don’t go out as much anymore

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Anonymous 1w

Part of it is because we (men talking about it included) have framed the epidemic as one of male-female relationships and not one of male-male friendships. And that is largely due to the demonization of groups of young men in public, the decline of the prevalence of third places, and the decline of communities of families mostly but not exclusively found in churches.

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Anonymous 1w

For the dating aspect, women have high standards that most of us can’t meet

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Anonymous 1w

Are we fr?

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

What high standards? Like what is the “line” of standards that majority men can’t meet?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

That’s a really well articulated statement! I think that is a major part of it.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Thank you! I think it’s one of those things you just have to experience it’s hard to describe. For example I will never fully know what it’s like to be a woman walking alone at night. But also a small example today is it was at a bus stop and the only man and every woman at the bus stop turned their back to me, which I understand, but it subconsciously makes you feel isolated. I was just standing on my phone but when you have decades of social conditioning like that, at bigger scales too, it can

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

Worsen

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

When you have dozens of men going after you, and you have no incentive to say yes, you’re always gonna have high standards. I’m not blaming women. Women for the most part want a good looking, tall, fit guy who is funny, confident, popular, possibly rich, that sort of stuff. Also as a man you’re expected to initiate everything and face the risk of rejection. If you can’t do most, if not all of that, your chances of getting a date are slim to none

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

men also make wanting to date harder

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

This feels like a bit of a “red pill” take. Most women in my community date “regular” looking men. Like they are cute but not all tall hot gym bros. Many women’s standards has to do with self care, hygiene, and having a general well rounded life

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

I do all of that but at the end of the day no one likes me because I am one of many options and there’s always someone better than me. And I’m expected to read all the signals and make all the moves and risk rejection or making them uncomfortable. Most women who say their standards aren’t high are rejecting men who meet those standards

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 1w

Maybe they can sense some level of resentment there. Your experiences are valid but maybe try looking inward.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Doubt it, firstly because I don’t think I give off those vibes and secondly because I stopped trying before I felt as resentful as I do now. Again though, not blaming women. “Don’t hate the player, hate the game” and allat

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 1w

Ok see this is so reasonable.

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