Anonymous #1 7w

Why do you think everything is so sexualized?

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Anonymous #3 7w

Cuz of other men 😭😭

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Anonymous OP 7w

Yes that’s the point, as is life or so they say

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Anonymous #2 7w

Human nature

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Anonymous #1 7w

But humans can function without sex and without sexualization. Asexuals and others that avoid sex can exist and thrive so I don’t believe it’s human nature.

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Anonymous #2 7w

Humans can function without processed sugar and deep fried fats too, but people still jump through hoops to eat those, why do you think that is?

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Anonymous #2 7w

Also, sexuality is the rule and asexuality is the exception. If it were the other way around, humans would literally go extinct. It's not rocket science, it is basic evolutionary biology. The basic instincts of all living things are survive, and reproduce, because anything without those instincts dies and ceases to exist.

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Anonymous #1 7w

I absolutely get the enjoyment of sex and why it exists. I'm just trying to figure out why simple things in life need to be sexualized. It makes life harder to live for everyone. A lot of people live in fear of being sexualized and so they don't do some things that bring them joy, like having ice cream. It's disheartening.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Not really. My homegirls would nitpick everything. Now I’m going to therapy cuz I’m convinced that the only reason I’m gay is cuz my homegirls convinced me I was

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Anonymous #8 7w

Are you attracted to men? Other people don’t get to decide that for you man.

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Anonymous #2 7w

I don’t think I am but I was convinced I was for three years so I just assumed you weren’t supposed to feel anything during sex or not finishing meant you were doing a great job

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Anonymous #8 7w

You might be asexual tbh

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Anonymous #8 7w

I’m straight but I can’t finish during sex or anything. I’ve never been able to, and I know it’s not death grip syndrome or anything like that. I’m just weird.

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Anonymous #10 7w

You’re not weird!! Also screw all these people saying “oh you’re this” or “yeah you’re that” You are you and you were made just the right way to be you Some things take time to figure out and that’s something that you’ll do sooner or later Don’t let the opinions of others change the way you think about yourself!! 💝 you are wonderful how you are 😊

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Anonymous #13 7w

Immediately when i became a little more attractive and stopped struggling on the dating market, coincidentally I started getting sexually harassed like quarterly

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Anonymous #14 7w

That isn’t license for sexual harassment btw, like just bc I have a sexual response to things doesn’t mean I should act on it in an intrusive way toward other ppl, hence why I don’t really even talk about sexualizing women with people

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You are wrong but he is definitely weird for writing that out in prose

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Third head Neuron activation dgaf what right or wrong is as described by Christians

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Anonymous #13 7w

No, that actually is normal. We weren’t meant to see more than like three beautiful women in our entire lives. Modern society is absolutely fried. We don’t know what even is proper because we have no frame of reference historically

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For sure, but like 90% of modern values go back to Christianity like this

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American values are inherently Christian because of how the country was founded

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Anonymous #13 7w

Separation of church and state though. We’re talking about how it’s weird to sexualize people doing daily things and you bring up religion. Religion doesn’t undermine basic human decency and respect. You still shouldn’t see people as sexual objects but as human beings

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Anonymous #2 7w

we are on the same page. I am bringing up how it is an inherently Christian thing to say “you better not be getting turned on by women.” Like the most pervasive and lingering effect of Christian values on American society

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You’re an incredibly ill mannered and rude person. I refuse being made to feel ashamed for my body and how it reacts, you do not have any right whatsoever to tell me how I should emotionally respond to my body. And it’s not just anyone bending over, it’s if I’m actually attracted the person and they’re wearing tighter clothing. I have very natural responses, you have some sort of trauma or lack of basic decency causing you to be an unpleasant person—for which you should be ashamed

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I never said that, you should be ashamed of your lacking in literacy and character.

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You are a repeated liar, likely the result of bad parenting and failure to hold yourself to basic moral account. I don’t go out of my way sexualizing women, I actively avoid it. Getting an erection from seeing a woman I already find beautiful bend over in a way I can see her butt is a natural response. If your brain is too porn-rotted from constantly sexualizing everything you see to the point you have desensitized yourself to natural responses, that’s your own issue for which you need help.

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People with bad character have a way of being ugly, maybe the reason this idea of a natural response to beauty is so alien to you is because you’re an ugly person inside and out. Go work on that.

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I don’t need a fool to agree with me to know I’m right, your language and lack of character with its bad faith contortions and lies is what is glaringly disgusting here.

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Anonymous #13 7w

i know some men would rather be sexually harassed for being attracted than ignored for being unattractive. Is this true for you?

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Wow, yet another demonstration of your lacking in character and literacy: telling someone to commit suicide. You are a truly ugly person, and you’ve made the choice to be that way. That line is about looking lustfully at people with intent, I never said I looked lustfully at people with intent—in fact I said I go out of my way to avoid sexualizing women. So, clearly when I’m talking about how my body naturally reacts to a woman I find beautiful bend over I’m talking about accidentally seeing

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Anonymous #1 7w

it's evolutionary biology for people to get weird about others eating bananas or picking things up? having sex is a completely different topic from an oversexualized culture.. sidenote, the opposite of "asexual" is "allosexual"

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Anonymous #13 7w

thank you for sharing your experience, but that still doesn’t explain why everything is so sexualized, nor why men inordinately sexualize women

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You are the pervert here. I don’t go around lustfully looking at women trying to normalize sexualizing them. A healthy normal biological response to sexual exposure is an in turn sexual response. But you are neither mentally nor morally healthy or normal, often projecting your own lack of character on to others

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given how sexualized it is in media, it’s much more normal than you’d think. things often get sexualized by individuals because it’s normal to sexualize them (or things surrounding them) on a larger scale. it’s why people are so against oversexualizing women in ads, since that DOES teach people to make those same connections in their own lives.

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There’s a multi-billion dollar spicy book industry that says women sexualize things just as much as men. They just sexualize men in different ways as men do women.

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Anonymous #15 7w

no I’m a twink I feel extremely unsafe I would rather be left alone

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Anonymous #14 7w

Except a woman bending even if she is attractive and is wearing tight clothing isn't "sexual exposure" thats what everyone is trying to tell you. Random erections r normal sure, but you openly admitted they happened in response to seeing an attractive women bend over, so you are over sexualizing it even if you can't control it. It's still weird, and bc you've been repressing your libido that's probably why you have that response. It's not healthy nor should be it considered normal.

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Anonymous #14 7w

Also if you are well aware something like that could cause an erection, you shouldn't keep looking. You should walk away or remove yourself from the situation. It's not like anyone is forcing you to look.

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Anonymous #16 7w

it’s legit just porn and the fact that we weren’t meant to see more than like three beautiful women in our entire lives. Anyone who tries to dig any deeper is out of their mind. It is literally just porn and the demand surplus of beautiful woman alongside the commodification of it. No one knows how to act historically we have no basis on how to act in this scenario we are living in.

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oversexualization and fetishization of the mundane directly harmed me in my own life. it’s not “natural” or otherwise justifiable: it’s a result of overt social conditioning, which makes it all the more horrible to look around and see so many who’ve fallen for it, and even worse to see people try defending it.

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Anonymous #16 7w

I haven’t actually said anything from my own personal experience. since you asked: I’ve been SAed multiple times by a woman. it’s part of why I’m so passionate about this topic

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Anonymous #13 7w

it really isn’t just porn. it’s deeply ingrained in our society. if you took away porn, we’d still have a culture of oversexualization. I’m not sure if you have any sources for your claims, but I don’t blame you if you don’t. it’s easier to justify an existing structure rather than recognize it’s something we can change, and that we didn’t have to suffer it.

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Anonymous #15 7w

I do remove myself from the situation, I already clarified that this has only happened to me by accident, and I also clarified the fact that my increased sensitization comparatively from avoiding sexualizing people and waiting till marriage is the likely reasoning for it. It’s completely healthy because that is what drives life itself, natural/healthy≠normal. Our over sexualized culture might be internally normal, but it is unhealthy and not natural

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Anonymous #16 7w

as someone who went through the cycle and had to pull myself out out of it I can pretty fucking confidently say it’s porn. Have not watched porn since I was 16 for even a second o feel like a completely rewired person. 22 now. I would be fried in the head, sexualizing woman like that if I was still watching porn. I don’t know for certain it’s that but I’m pretty damn sure. I can definitely say for sure I was looking at women completely different after I stopped.

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Anonymous #13 7w

Like actual night and day difference, it went from like I can’t talk to women. They’re so hot. to me literally having no comprehension how It was possible for me to have ever even been close to that nervous before, and I think it’s because I was coming from a place of non-sincereness and bad intentions because I was still rotting my brain with all that crap. All of a sudden I was not getting turned on by women doing anything ever and I would just see them no diff than my friends yknow

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Anonymous #13 7w

I personally think that porn is the downfall of modern society and I will die on that hill

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Anonymous #15 7w

If you see something that arouses you it doesn’t just poof and disappear from your mind or suddenly remove the sexual response elicited, even if you remove yourself from the situation. I actively avoid trying to look at women in such situations, I’m just not always successful despite my intent because that’s life

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Anonymous #11 7w

saying “it’s something you’ll figure out sooner or later” simply isn’t true. this kind of questioning is hard, and you engage in it actively. nobody should let others dictate their thoughts, but completely ignoring suggestions or advice isn’t it. you should seek out MORE opinions if anything, since then you can cross-examine. idle wondering isnt a real solution, and you shouldn’t suggest it.

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Anonymous #13 7w

Everyone thinks they’re the next Nick Fuentes but they haven’t even fucking tried stopping watching porn yet. Like why the fuck do you think a woman don’t want you you goddamn coomer.

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Anonymous #16 7w

I think it’s quite the opposite in my case, I generally don’t watch movies or tv shows and l avoid most media as I can within reason. I don’t sexualize women for existing, in fact I really try to not sexualize them at all, but I do have natural sexual responses to accidentally seeing a woman I already find beautiful in a more sexually revealing position. It’s not my intent for that to happen, it just does

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Anonymous #13 7w

it can’t just be porn if people sexualize things without ever watching it, no? I’ll admit, the modern porn industry is a huge gear in the machine, but it’s still just a symptom of the illness.

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That’s not what he said, if that’s what you read then you’re projecting, and if that’s your response then you’re an unhinged lunatic. 14, just stop responding, 12 is actively choosing not to listen to you and strawman you.

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Anonymous #14 7w

humans don’t have mating dances. we’re not inherently attracted to the action of bending down, nor the backside of someone’s pants. I knew someone who hated bare ass but couldnt be normal about people bending down. that’s not remotely natural: that’s conditioned.

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Anonymous #16 7w

If someone is sexualizing something before having ever watched porn in their life or something similarly sexual, that is just an evidence of it being primal instinct. Idk what’s ur point I am clearly misunderstanding

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Anonymous #16 7w

you are wrong horny neurons definitely fire when ass is presented

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Anonymous #13 7w

why are you so against the sympathetic nervous system😭😭 you’re like actually an opp of the nervous system

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Anonymous #14 7w

and you can never avoid all media. you see ads, newspapers in waiting rooms, descriptions in books. I can look around my room and see media. it’s unavoidable.

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Anonymous #16 7w

why do you think so many people were upset by the Sydney Sweeney ad? how many tens of thousands of kids do you think saw a woman doing suggestive poses while naked with sporting equipment? media, like any experience, makes you form connections that you can call back to. how many people do you think will see a woman in sports & make a sexual connection? you can’t consciously remember every piece of media you’ve seen, so how can you claim you were never affected?

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Anonymous #13 7w

acknowledging how easily we’re conditioned & how susceptible we are to propaganda isnt being “an op of the nervous system.” why are you an op to “primal instincts,” you keep pointing to them in some sort of messed up Occum’s Razor, as though there are zero other answers 💀

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Anonymous #13 7w

there’s an entire trend around people liking “ass vs boobs,” and so many will say they aren’t remotely attracted to it. why are we claiming it’s some sort of primal attraction when common testimony contradicts that idea?

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Anonymous #13 7w

primal instincts tend to be at least somewhat consistent when they aren’t susceptible to influence by environment, aka culture. differing culture has famously challenged what we think of as “natural” or “instinctual” in humans. “instinct” should be the last explanation you point to as it’s too easily influenced. other cultures do not universally—or even commonly—sexualize ass (let alone clothed ass). we do so because of our own cultural influences, media, and truisms.

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Anonymous #16 7w

I did hear about that one time actually I completely forgot that was a thing. But also, I don’t really buy it. I would be more inclined to say they are socially nurtured into not liking ass rather than us being socially nurtured into liking ass. Hips size being attractive r def a nature thing and ass size is pretty proportional. I would be very surprised to hear if humans before language did not like ass

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Anonymous #13 7w

I can’t say personally that I have ever been attracted to anyone’s hips but I feel like that is the most basic evolutionary one to argue for being nature not nurture that people talk about

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Anonymous #1 7w

Are they the majority of people who get brutalized, raped, and killed for it though?

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Anonymous #13 7w

That sucks. No one should be sexually harassed. Unfortunately the issue isn't "only women ever experience this ever," it's "femininity is the main target and anything that could conceivsy be considered feminine is in the blast radius."

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Anonymous #13 7w

Yet another case of "this is my experience so necessarily that means it is the universal experience"

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Anonymous #17 7w

No I’m saying explicitly this is just my experience

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Anonymous #1 7w

Yeah I’m prob gonna mute the post tbh, prob one of the most bad faith people I’ve come across in this community ngl

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Anonymous #16 7w

Idk what ad you’re talking about but I did say within reason in my comment. Ofc I see stuff on accident that I’d rather not, literally on the highway there’s a billboard of some lady in a bikini. Heck the ads on this app are creepy already. That’s not healthy, this society actively normalizes unhealthy things. People were having plenty of sex long before media or general literacy in any regard, being sexually attracted to parts of the opposite sex is natural

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Anonymous #1 7w

That is true, women get sexualized more often though

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“Romance”

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We shouldn’t shame people for physiological responses they can’t control. I got wet one time when my crush just walked past me. It happens. But we can choose what to do about it. In my case I just continued what I was doing like nothing happened. That’s what I hope this guy does.

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Anonymous #16 7w

I agree to an extent! It’s definitely possible to figure out sooner or later alone, though outside influence can be helpful (or sometimes harmful). The problem is that there is a difference between opinions and guesswork diagnosis Rather than label people as I mentioned before, something closer to stating what something is “you have xyz tendencies” is much better in my opinion. It should be guiding someone towards an answer rather than saying they’re probably something.

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