Anonymous #1 3w

Where did u meet those dudes (so I can avoid the ground they walk on)

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Anonymous #2 3w

Or alternatively we could just not be that offended by people existing in their bodies in general, men or women

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Anonymous OP 3w

Missouri (i am also from Missouri) (also they were literal neo-nazis so their “opinion” checks out)

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Anonymous #3 3w

(I mean I disagree, I don’t get why we are so afraid of the human body but I digress) it’s cool you’re judgmental of both but my question was about the fact the guys in the comments ONLY talk about the women

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Anonymous OP 3w

It’s them doing it in public I got the problem with

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Anonymous #3 3w

Again not answering my question and also why are we so afraid of human bodies. It’s just skin.

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Anonymous OP 3w

I’m not but I’m the digital age the risk out weighs the reward to do that

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Anonymous OP 3w

Hedonism is the death of virtue

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Anonymous #2 3w

Bruh it’s a body. Welll all live

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Anonymous #3 3w

People have been running shirtless for ages. My grandad from the era of great values did it

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Anonymous OP 3w

But was he in his underwear tho? Plus in the digital age all it takes is one photo or video to go viral then all photos and videos from that event go viral and corporate America likes to uphold an image they don’t have

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Anonymous OP 3w

Oh so you’re just trying to point at the bad things other people do in order to justify your own behavior

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Anonymous OP 3w

That seems reductive of people. Its not “just a body” its a person. And how a person carries themselves is emblematic of their character

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Anonymous #2 3w

Sorry, a person existing in their body is not emblematic of any character. Its skin. Why as a society did we decide human flex being visable is immoral

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Anonymous #4 3w

Explain to me how waking around with your skin (not your genitals) just your skin is bad. And again men have been walking around shirtless for ages and I’ve never seen people cate

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Anonymous #5 3w

I am aware. Never said they didn’t. I’m just asking a question about this specific double standard

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Anonymous OP 3w

Time in a place

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Anonymous #6 3w

Look I’m not here to debate morals.You can feel how you want. I would appreciate it if people would actually answer the initial question I asked.

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Anonymous OP 3w

I personally don’t know anyone like that

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Anonymous #6 3w

Ty

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Anonymous OP 3w

You dont exist in isolation, you exist within yourself and in the perception of others. You have a duty of respect to others as you coexist in the same space.

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Anonymous #2 3w

Again not here to debate different morals.

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Anonymous OP 3w

This question is inherently about morality. You cant ask why the heavenly bodies remain in orbit then demand we not discuss physics.

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Anonymous #2 3w

I asked why there is a double standard and whether you know anyone with that double standard. Not what you think about the morals

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Anonymous OP 3w

The double standard exists because of the inconsistent morality between people. This is what I mean by hedonism being the death of virtue. Everyone pursues their own self interest, so no one can make consistent judgements of themselves or others.

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Anonymous #2 3w

So what you’re saying is you think it’s in men’s self interest to overlook other men doing what they criticize women for? Fair enough

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Anonymous OP 3w

The same goes for women, but yes. Such is the death of virtue

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Anonymous #2 3w

Have humans ever really had virtue tbh

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Anonymous OP 3w

No one “has” virtue. It is a pursuit. A brave man is not a brave man until he acts bravely. Your virtues are revealed when you practice them.

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Anonymous #2 3w

Oh brother

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Anonymous OP 3w

😃

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Anonymous OP 3w

Well most of the guys aren’t planning on marrying men, so they’re less focused on them

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Anonymous #7 3w

They’re also not planning to marry these particular women.

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Anonymous OP 3w

Well they don’t want to marry these particular women *because they’re doing this*. Whereas they don’t want to marry men in general

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Anonymous #7 3w

Why only criticize the women though in a way that makes it sound like only women are bad, like do they even think about the fact that men are also engaging in this behavior, or do they only really think about women. Is it a matter of wanting to control the sex they plan to marry, or something else

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Anonymous OP 3w

They only criticize the women because *they are only interested in the women*. They’re not worried about their future husband being an ex-whore. It’s not complicated

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Anonymous #7 3w

Don’t they realize how shitty that is though?

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Anonymous OP 3w

It’s shitty for them to not be bisexual?

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Anonymous #7 3w

To criticize women and act like only women are bad while ignoring the actions of men just because of a desire to have all women be ideal wife and girlfriend material. And I’m not saying criticizing women is bad, but viciously slutshaming women while acting like men are better, when both sexes are partaking in this behavior on the screen in front of them is really sexist and hypocritical

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Anonymous OP 3w

They’re not saying men are better though, you are, they’re ignoring the men completely. They’re trying to set a standard for the people they have an interest in. In turn, you the women get to set your own standards for men to live up to.

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Anonymous #7 3w

They actually did. Sorry for not elaborating but a lot of the comments were tearing down women while either actively stating or implying that men are better behaved

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Anonymous #7 3w

And it’s not really “setting the standard” as much as it’s shamming or demeaning

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Anonymous OP 3w

Well, then go argue with them there

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Anonymous #7 3w

I’m not looking for an argument, especially not on instagram lol. I’m just looking into inspires from better men about their experiences with the mindset and how it’s come to be

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Anonymous OP 3w

Well how it comes to be is simple. There are guys who want society to have a sense of decency, who discourage this. And there are guys who want to see a bunch of college girls running around in their underwear, who encourage this and join in ‘to show their support’.

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Anonymous #7 3w

But they don’t want society to have a sense of decency, just women, thus them ONLY commenting on the women and acting like there are no men there

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Anonymous OP 3w

Again, they leave policing men’s decency to YOU, the women. And you’re the one asking for this to be normalized.

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Anonymous #7 3w

Men are clearly also asking for it to be normalized by participating in the behavior. And they’re not “leaving policing men’s behavior to women” they’re denying men have any responsibility in thus

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Anonymous OP 3w

I’ll say this again, but slower. The men who are there participating, are there because they want to see college girls in their underwear. They want it normalized, so they can be surrounded by lewd women all the time. The ball is in your court to tell them no. Or to give them what they want.

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Anonymous #7 3w

I’ll say this again slower. Both men and women are running around in swimsuits. In the comments it’s a bunch of men who didn’t participate, who are criticizing only the women, while acting like men don’t do that, despite seeing clear evidence men do. They are stating they DONT want to see these women and they don’t want it normalized, but they are acting like it’s only a issue among women

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Anonymous OP 3w

And you are free to criticize the men and say you don’t want to see the men

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Anonymous #7 3w

Brother did you read my question about this

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Anonymous OP 3w

What exactly is the process you believe is going on in the minds of the people online? “I want to see more men in speedos while hiding women in burkas!”?

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