
I think it’s because especially in the younger generation (like us in genz), most people don’t really align with a party. People are pretty independent thinkers, so not everyone who’s a conservative (in the traditional sense ie conservative interpretation of the constitution vs a more liberal interpretation the ORIGINAL MEANING of both terms, not the same as someone who’s all in on MAGA) is a Trump person. Same how not everyone who’s a liberal is all in on the Democratic Party
To… get… laid..? Possibly to get a girlfriend? I’m not sure I’m understanding the source of your confusion. Did you miss the birds and bees talk about romantic desire in general, or do you assume for some reason that guys should narrow their dating pool on the basis of politics? In the latter case, maybe start by questioning the basis of that assumption🤷♂️
my bf voted for trump but regrets due to the whole ICE situation. he comes from a family of immigrants so it was pretty scary for him. i voted for kamala and im a registered democrat, but consider myself more moderate-left leaning. i would consider my bf to be the same. i just genuinely think the democratic party doesn’t at all appeal to men in the gen z/millennial age range. i also think a lot of men are just uneducated bc the way the system functions benefits them the most.
Liberal women are easier to pull. They’ve got much lower standards for a man in a relationship than conservative women do, they’re willing to split things 50/50 or even fully pay, AND they’re usually willing to have sex much earlier on since they don’t attach worth to it! Not wife material, but prime girlfriend/hookup material 👍
So I just think in general, especially for younger generations like ours, there’s not as many people who are hardcore one way or the other. We’re all pretty moderate and actually willing to have conversations or a mix of beliefs instead of strictly aligning with one of the two main parties and their goals/ideals
Because tbh fully aligning with either party is basically the equivalent of selling your soul to one of two corporations. They’re both just acting like businesses trying to maintain power at this point. I understand if people like individual representatives from either party, but being ALL IN with everyone is kinda extreme imo
Heck there’s even a lot of older people who think like this, but they’re stuck with the habit of voting based on the party label next to the name on the ballot. There’s a LOT of republicans who despise Trump, and there’s also a LOT of democrats who despised Kamala and Biden, but they voted red or blue just cause that’s what they’re used to doing
Just look at Trump’s approval rating. I’m pretty sure way less than half the country is 100% all in support of EVERY thing he’s done so far, just like there’s hardly anyone 100% against every thing he’s done while in office. It’s never as black and white as the ways polls are reported in media try to make it seem like it is
Sorry. We get a lot (A LOT) of questions where the answer is basically “men want sex” to the point they seem insincere bc it’s not like y’all forget it that often (it’s almost this group’s version of the fetishposts in ask women). When you say it a thousand times it’s tempting to get creative. Anyway if you’re serious, that’s your issue; don’t look at it from YOUR perspective if you’re trying to understand men, since men don’t share your perspective. We want sex and have to put effort into gett
ing it. And we have finite opportunities to make the best of. Personally I think ppl who voted for trump are monsters. But if I let “is a bad person” be a dealbreaker for me personally, I’d have a body count of like zero or nearly zero, so *I* wouldn’t let it stop me, even though I get why you would; you have more options. Plus guys don’t shame themselves for having sex so we don’t ration it specifically for the worthy.
I think you also need to think about it from not just your perspective because you’re giving a VERY limited view of men as a whole by generalizing your viewpoint onto everyone else. There are PLENTY of men who absolutely do shame themselves for sex and rationalize their desires WAAAAAYYY differently than you just described here
Are there? I mean, maybe, but guys who want their body count to be lower rather than higher aren’t trying to sleep with you so your question wouldn’t apply. And as for other rationalizations, not really? Every excuse a guy gives for broadening his standards stems from the fact that he can only afford to be so picky. We may have different ideas about what to compromise on and why, but that’s why we compromise to begin with.
i also think while I did and still do take my bf voting for trump as a red flag, he's not MAGA. he's not racist or homophobic either. believe it or not, not every conservative is also a bigot. if he was then i wouldn't be with him. one of his best friends is literally a lesbian lol. so i do think it depends on the person.
You’re being just as close minded as you were telling others not to be. Yes, the rationalizations vary wildly from person to person. There’s 8 billion people on this planet. Do you honestly believe that every one of those people that happen to be a man ALL have the same rationalization? That’s crazy talk lmao. I’ll give you just one easy example: someone’s religious beliefs. That’s a VERY common reason people are picky for both for guys and girls. Take your own advice and be more open minded
Whose advice? I never said to be more open minded. Certainly don’t open your mind to irrelevant stuff. What makes men different from each other doesn’t answer ur question. What makes men different from women does. And the biggest difference that answers your question is that men have to put effort into getting laid, and can’t be as picky. (“Can’t” in the sense of what you can get away with and still get laid. Don’t be pedantic cmon.)
…Uh, Yeah? I can read just fine… thats how I can see that none of the random pieces you highlighted refutes anything I just said. Try reading my comments more carefully. Adopting specifically the perspective you’re trying to understand isn’t the same thing as being generally more open minded in a random or unusedul way. Also, like I just said, broadening your standards and setting them in the first place aren’t the same thing. They’re more opposites.
You can stay with a liberal woman as your girlfriend for as long as you want and she won’t leave you for not marrying her like a conservative woman would, because she probably doesn’t even believe in marriage. She also doesn’t expect you to take the lead in a relationship, plan everything, and give princess treatment. You don’t even have to be in a relationship, you can be seeing multiple liberal women at the same time and they’re fine with that. They’re perfect to hold a guy over till later!
Just because a woman is liberal doesn’t mean they just throw their bodies around and don’t value intimacy. Nor does it necessarily mean the other tone death shit you said. Every individual is different. Also you say all that about them but then are cool with men using them that way? As man your thought process is disrespectful, distasteful, and disgusting
Sure they might value intimacy but what I’m saying is compared to a conservative woman, they don’t. Conservative women will do shit like wait till marriage. Didn’t say they threw their bodies around either! Just that they’re more likely to be open to sexual things earlier on than conservatives. Calm down
Dawg I am a man and know how hard it is to convince liberal women to go near y’all, even for casual sex, which there’s nothing wrong with. It’s just funny cause conservatives are usually just emo over liberal women not wanting to be around them, this is some next level coping / fanfic manifestation tho!
all you are doing is spewing red pill rhetoric that is grounded in gender stereotypes that you cleary adhere to and using generalized logic to justify your point. reducing both liberal and conservative women on how "easy" they are. the question wasn't even abt sex. which this again grounded in the stereotype that all men are looking for is sex. the question was about dating. it's amazing to me how ignorant and openly sexist ppl can be like it's nothing.
🙄 Yeah take my answer or leave it lmao I could not care less. We’ll all pretend that this is rainbow sunshine land where a lot of conservative men who aren’t ready for marriage yet and don’t meet the “high value man” definition (and don’t have strong morals about waiting for marriage or something) wouldn’t go for liberal women to have a gf/sex in the meantime. I’m the only one who will tell y’all the truth. My comments had upvotes from men before the women showed up to downvote lmao
Bro? The question was about why conservative men date liberal women. 💀 and I answered truthfully. Not sure why you as a liberal man are pressing back on this tbh. If you had a brain cell, you’d agree that the reason conservative men (who would rather have a conservative woman to marry) date liberal woman instead is not a nice pretty reason lmao
what i'm and everyone else is saying is that your answer is so sexist towards men AND women. you are generalizing all conservative men and objectifying liberal women. i literally spoke about how i'm a liberal women dating a conservative man. might be shocking to you but he isn't ready for marriage, isn't super rich, and doesn't adhere to the "high value man" mentality that incels like you have. you were only being upvoted bc Ask Men is in over run by red pill bros
and even though i aligned with the liberal party, i still sought out a more traditional relationship and whats important in a relationship is if you share the same values. I've still gotten the traditional man behavior from liberal men. as well as conservative men. what women want is a man who sees women as people and respects them. you clearly don't. you view women as accessories or playthings. reducing them to stereotypes. it's truly awful. and the exact type of conservative no one wants
i just went to read ur og comment and what you described, the women paying or splitting 50/50, planning the dates, not expecting you to take any lead, and no princess treatment actually isn't even dating. that's like called being a friends with benefits. like if you are putting zero effort into the relationship and just fucking this girl on the regular im pretty sure both liberals and conservatives wouldn't consider that dating. it takes mutual effort for both sides.
sorry for the late response, i'm employed. my conservative bf is abt 7 years older than has a degree and working on his 2nd. he still doesn't want to get married, but is dating with the intention to eventually marry. as am i. however by not ready for marriage, i meant we aren't ready for marriage anytime soon.
I said he doesn't adhere to the "high value man" mentality. He probably doesn't know what that means but he still objectively be considered one. He pays for all our dates, gives me little gifts throughout the week, drives me everywhere. No, he isn't super rich we actually met at work but he's in his dream career. I was proving to you that you're generalizing all conservative men, but clearly that went over your head.
Not sure what your point is here as the exact case still stands that he is a conservative man, not rich, specifically not ready for marriage anytime soon, and dating a liberal woman lmao. As for “high value man” I have no clue what that means either, it’s just a subjective social media term
you're implying that he's gonna leave me whenever he's ready for marriage that liberal women aren't marriage material when that couldn't be further from the truth. both objectively and within my own relationship with my boyfriend. marriage is just not in the cards for us right now but we are still dating to find the person we want to marry, and have discussed us getting married.