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People shouldn’t die because of their political views but other people should be able to decide if they mourn you based on them
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Anonymous 15w

I don’t think people should have to mourn him, but I don’t think people should be celebrating, making a mockery, or rejoicing.

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Anonymous 15w

Spreading hate speech and calling for violence isn’t a “political view”, it’s being a piece of shit. Nobody should ever be murdered, but don’t pretend he deserves to be mourned.

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Anonymous 15w

PREACHHH

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Anonymous 15w

The whole point is hating an entire group just for being that group. And then wanting them all to die. But when I say that am I talking about you or n@zis

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Anonymous 15w

Not mourning someone and celebrating someone’s death are two totally different things…

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Anonymous 15w

i agree with this 1000%. You can choose to mourn who you want, but never should we celebrate the loss of a man just because you don't agree with what he says. my prayers are going out to the kirk family.

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Anonymous 15w

This was a delicious take

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Anonymous 15w

y'all would have grieved hitler

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Anonymous 15w

Death is not forgiveness!!!!

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Anonymous 15w

There’s a difference between not mourning and celebrating someone’s murder

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Anonymous 15w

Bro I didn’t even like Kirk, but free speech is called free speech for a f***king reason, some of yall are actually insane for glorifying d**th over someone’s political views 💀 A wife lost her husband and some kids lost their father. Bffr…

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Anonymous 15w

there is a difference between not mourning and celebrating

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Anonymous 15w

Sure but you have to acknowledge there is a difference between choosing not to mourn and posting about choosing not to mourn. I don’t think anyone really has a problem with the former. But when u post that ur not mourning ur really making a political statement and u can pretend otherwise but u know thats what ur doing. You don’t post about all the other people in the world who died recently that you aren’t mourning.

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Anonymous 15w

I absolutely disagree. Any far right n@zi 100% deserves to die

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15w

Kinda backwards to say anyone from a certain group deserves to die Then also call them a nazi no?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 15w

How is it backwards… if that’s what they identify as. This is why they are proud to march around spreading hate. Grow a pair.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15w

Sorry, when did Kirk identify as a “Nazi”

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 15w

Sorry when did I say Kirk was a “nazi”

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 15w

well hitler said he was a socialist so he’s actually a good guy ass comment. do you think people need to say it out loud for it to be true?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15w

Well this conversation is about Kirk, and you said Nazis deserve to die…

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 15w

They said the word “identifying”

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 15w

nice rebuttal. sorry people aren’t perfect when they’re typing on a tiny screen fueled with rage against a facist

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 15w

Are you talking about me or things you’ve seen in general? Cause my post doesn’t mention glorifying what happened or a widow and orphaned kids.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 15w

In general and some of the replies

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 15w

Gotcha

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 15w

You literally commented under a post about Charlie Kirk and then said “any far right n@zi 100% deserves to die” lol incase you forgot

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Anonymous replying to -> #18 15w

Yes the post references Charlie Kirk indirectly but the post says they don’t believe anyone should die due to “political views” I said I absolutely disagree because I don’t think those that celebrate the dark history of Germany should be allowed to live. So idk why you’re acting stupid but you should use your context clues like a big boy. If I wanted to call Charlie that directly, I would have but I was responding to the take that all “political views” should be respected.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 15w

No the conversation was about respecting different political views. Obviously it’s indirectly referring Kirk but that’s not what my response highlighted. Kirk was probably that in some ways but I really don’t care what he was because he was a POS regardless. My point was general. Hope this helps!

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 15w

Hate speech is not protected under the Constitution but is under tRumpistan dictatorship.

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Anonymous replying to -> #23 15w

Hitler caused genocide, Mr Kirk shared his political opinions around the us

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 15w

Hate speech and inciting violence is not “political opinion”. kkkirk does not deserve mourning. He signed that away when he abandoned his humanity.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 15w

literally this.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 15w

If that’s their true character they can’t be saved.

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 15w

sadly hate speech often is part of extremist political views, which means it is both. but yeah, he didn't deserve to be murdered but he doesn't deserve to be mourned by more than family and those actually close him

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Anonymous replying to -> #32 15w

Yes commenting about a political influencer’s death is an inherently political act whether you’re mourning, celebrating, or neutral. In other news water is still water even when it’s ice or steam.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 15w

Okay but if u agree why did u post this then? Like ur water is water thing applies to ur own post. Not even the staunchest of conservatives are out here saying u should be personally mourning at least that I’ve seen, they’re only responding to public statements of not mourning. Since you agree that’s a different thing you’re arguing with no one.

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Anonymous replying to -> #32 15w

Or you just don’t get my point. No one who said they weren’t mourning was pretending they weren’t making a political statement, just like the ones celebrating weren’t. But it seems you think making a political statement about a political influencer is bad? Even though people vocally mourning and saying people shouldn’t announce not mourning is a political statement in and of itself.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 15w

No im just trying to say that you’re shadowboxing. Aka no one is disagreeing with you. I think you’re trying to engage with the argument I outlined earlier in which people would disagree but by not committing to that line you have a more defensible position. However this is either dishonest or just pointless

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Anonymous replying to -> #32 15w

A false dichotomy was being presented in these discussions where someone is either vocally celebrating or vocally mourning based on if they think someone should die due to their political views. I’m saying that while I agree no one should die, there’s a third option: That people who disagree with your views don’t have to mourn your death even if they aren’t celebrating it.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 15w

Okay. I see what ur getting at now, thanks for clearing it up.

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 15w

Idk, man. Saying ‘Hitler caused genocide’ and ‘Kirk just shares opinions’ kind of disconnects ideology from outcome. I mean, genocide didn’t just happen. It was fueled and justified by political ideology - especially one that targeted marginalized groups and spread gradually over time. Hitler’s speeches and rallies weren’t harmless. They were the conduit for building the moral framework that allowed genocide to feel justified - and that’s exactly how Hitler ‘caused genocide’.

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 15w

He also had plenty of people “on the ground” who didn’t touch any weapons. A lot of people forget that the Holocaust was not an overnight event. It took YEARS before the camps were opened and gassing and non-stop murder occurred. It took over a decade for them to open and reach the level they did.

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 15w

People like julius streicher, for example, didn’t use weapons to cause harm. They spread propaganda, inflammatory rhetoric, and inciting violence. People said he was “just speaking his mind/the truth”, too. He normalised hate. He made it palatable.

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Anonymous replying to -> #22 15w

The camps didn’t start or end with Jews, either. Started with Germans associated with the Communist Party of Germany. Then anyone showing resistance. Then the racial profiling picked up more. Then general criminals and “asocial” people (Roma and Sinti, Disabled, Queer, alcoholic, homeless, nomadic, sex worker, interracial couples, etc) were encamped. Many “asocials” who survived were still left in prisons to suffer and be forgotten after the camps were shut down.

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