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Hot take: Billionaires shouldn’t exist, no one needs more than a billion dollars in their life.
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Anonymous 2w

Room temp take

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Anonymous 2w

Billionaires should exist because incentives matter. People take huge risks to start companies and create products YOU choose to use. The reason America has so many successful companies is because people are rewarded if they succeed. Without that upside, far fewer people would risk their money and time with building something new. It’s hypocritical that the same people that complain are the people that benefit from the products and services that come from this system.

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Anonymous 2w

I mean, duh

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Anonymous 2w

Should be a cold take

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Anonymous 2w

It’s a terrible mistake to think you & others don’t have enough because somebody else has too much. That’s not how it works or happened for the most part. I promise you, that is not the reason you struggle to make more money, bc it went to some billionaire or someone else

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Anonymous 2w

how would that be enforced

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Anonymous 2w

Since when are needs the metric for what’s acceptable? I don’t NEED to watch movies in theaters or order Chipotle but I sure want to. I could just as well live life cooking at home and watching TV and I’d be better off than most of the world. What’s so special about a billion dollars? Net worth is just how much people value these companies, so it’s literally the choice of the “trampled upon” 90%

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Anonymous 2w

Except me

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Anonymous 2w

You're so right, in fact, why should anyone over like 10mil be allowed to keep earning income? They should just quit their jobs and fire everyone in their companies after they make their allotted income and then completely shatter the economy and raise the unemployment rate to the great depression rates.

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Anonymous 2w

Karma farming and off topic

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Anonymous 2w

?

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Anonymous 2w

boi

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Anonymous 2w

Just a stupid take

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Anonymous 2w

Those people worked their whole life to live luxurious and they (usually) earned it. If you’re just jealous you don’t own a multi million dollar yacht just say that 😭

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Anonymous 2w

And what give the rest to you? Yeah funny

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 2w

Steeper tax scale

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 2w

Yes because as seen with Epstein people having access to that kinda money is a good idea ?

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Anonymous replying to -> green_military_helmet57 2w

What kind of argument is that lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 2w

What kind of counter argument do you have ?

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Anonymous replying to -> green_military_helmet57 2w

Not everything is related to Epstein and polictics just because your rich, you stupid people need to go outside and touch some fucking grass, millionaires can do the same shit

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Anonymous replying to -> green_military_helmet57 2w

Being a billionaire doesn’t make you a bad person, alot of those people work themselves into the ground for that type of wealth and it’s people like you with no money or some type of jealousy with a complex that ur entitled to it or you try to enforce that they should give away their shit, it’s annoying asf

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 2w

Exactly, it’s always these stupid people who get jealous with something to say

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 2w

Not jealous id assume your not a billionaire either so to ignore the point is to also keep yourself in the situation you are now why the rich continue to climb off of your back a “self made “ billionaire is a oxymoron plain and simple

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 2w

worked their whole life and never stop working. obsessed w money and usually inherited a lot. It’s not that they don’t deserve it, but it’s like… why not at least spend it. You can’t take it with you when u die.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 2w

It’s funny to think I’m jealous even Caesar was jealous of Diogenes money doesn’t create happiness but a surplus of wealth while some have 0 is doing nothing but hurting those at the bottom are you not still able to live a rich lifestyle without being a billionaire?

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Anonymous replying to -> green_military_helmet57 2w

Do you think those billionaires DONT GIVE AWAY MILLIONS??? Let’s use our brains here. They have so much money that they give that shit away to plenty of charities, majority of them anyway, you have to realize that they got so successful it doesn’t matter how much they spend or give away, just grow up, yall make things an issue that shouldn’t be an issue

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 2w

Epstein is just an example of the kind of corruption and greed that would take for someone to become a billionaire the ability to screw over and hurt so many people for one’s self greed isn’t something that should be praised. If a village was starving and you held all the food would you sell the food to make profit or keep those around you well ?

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Anonymous replying to -> green_military_helmet57 2w

But not all billionaires are like Epstein, that’s what you need to realize

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 2w

Obviously neither side of that argument can be answered but I would like you to think of what people would be able to afford to engage in such activities knowing they are safe from the law due to the depth of their wallets

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Anonymous replying to -> green_military_helmet57 2w

Yes I know, that type of wealth makes you able to get away with a lot, but there’s really nothing we can do about it, the only issue I have is the statement “nobody deserves or should have that money” let me just use one person as an example for that, Lebron James is a billionaire, but he worked his ass off for 20 years straight. And as far as we know he has never gotten into any trouble, granted this is just one example, but would you say he doesn’t deserve it?

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 2w

Saying to “Grow up” is an interesting use of words do you assume that being contempt with the way life is now is a mature way to live. To me the mature thing is seeing injustices and thinking of a way to solve them. Neither you or I will be them but who buys there product, who makes there product, who supports their businesses without is the rich are nothing so yes I do find it to be a issue that they can continue to make more while some people can’t afford to eat or living paycheck to paycheck

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Anonymous replying to -> green_military_helmet57 2w

And how is that their fault that some people can’t afford to live or eat? It’s not like their actively trying to put people down

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Anonymous replying to -> green_military_helmet57 2w

maybe not a billionaire, but yes a multi millionaire who is blessed by the fact I’ve worked so hard that I can live any life I want to. People saying that we shouldn’t have that much money is just pure jealousy

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 2w

Hey can I get $10k?

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 2w

You don’t have to lie on an anonymous app

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 2w

it’s actually recommended you do

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 2w

hey so you don’t get to dictate what anyone does with their money

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 2w

Deserve and need are two different topics

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 2w

Exactly. Basic economics.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 2w

Someone logical

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 2w

I agree to a degree that why capitalism is so successful yet at the same time where do you draw the line how much is too much if any at all to be I believe becoming a billionaire and having so much money to where your children’s children couldn’t even spend all of it if they wanted is not a necessity

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Anonymous replying to -> green_military_helmet57 2w

Entitlement should also be a topic

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 2w

America is country that prides itself on praying on humans psyche to always bet on yourself while home to some of the richest people in the world America also has one of the largest wealth disparity gaps in the world with the top 1% owning just as much as the bottom 90% combined to me this would be like looking at the lottery and saying that it’s productive due to the many of people who have made lots of money off of it while ignoring all those who have lost everything due to gambling addictions

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 2w

You can’t be righteous and a billionaire. You gotta exploit people to have that type of wealth. If you have a few million most likely not. But a whole billion? Yeah, definitely sketchy

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 2w

You know how dumb you sound? You don’t need to exploit people to make money. That’s just an excuse people like you came up with

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 2w

Wanna know how dumb YOU sound? Show me a billionaire that didn’t exploit someone. Spoiler alert: ya can’t.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 2w

You’re the dumb one. If you stack a million in one dollar bills, it’ll reach above the Statue of Liberty. Do a billion and it’ll reach past the atmosphere. Every billionaire exploits because how else you make an incomprehensible amount of money? They own a share of mines, slave labor, etc.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 2w

LeBron James, who did he exploit, dumbass

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 2w

There are multiple athletes who are billionaires you fucking idiot, you think they own mines and do slave labor? This isn’t a fucking movie yall are so stupid yall look at any other way to try and tear peoples hard work down

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 2w

Lmao Jay Z, LeBron, and many others all have ties to horrible people. LeBron recently said he heard “good things” about Israel. Same country accused of genocide. You are stupid

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 2w

Are you fucking stupid? “If I have fans over there… I hope you’ve been following my career. I hope I inspire people over there… Hopefully someday I could make it over there. Like I said, I’ve never been over there, but I heard nothing but great things” he was trying to inspire his fans who are over there but of course your’re just gonna reach and try to bring him down

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 2w

This is the issue with America, people think they are temporarily embarrassed billionaires instead of acknowledging how fucked the system is. There is no world where the average American is living paycheck to paycheck while some people have unimaginable wealth.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 2w

But people shouldn’t be incentivized to exploit others for profit, which is how you become a billionaire.

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Anonymous replying to -> #15 2w

The people live paycheck to paycheck making well over 100k a year. A lot of it is just poor financial decisions. If being rich was easy every one would be so yes there is a world where the average person takes no risk and spends all their money

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Anonymous replying to -> zkami 2w

How out of touch can you be. Sure, maybe some people making that much could in theory be living paycheck to paycheck. But the average American, making under 50k a year, is also living paycheck to paycheck. It’s not just bad financial decisions, the system is set up to keep people poor.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 2w

How can you say the system sets you up to be poor when you don’t do anything to be rich? You get a degree that pays little, go into a career path that pays little… then complain you don’t make much Yet refuse to start a business or side hustle with a high ROI Then claim everyone who takes that risk successfully are evil for not giving away their money. It’s makes no sense 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> green_military_helmet57 2w

Being that they almost always donate massive amounts of it when they die, I’d say it’s never enough

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 2w

Scared Quitter mindset

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 2w

They’re talking about billionaires not millionaires. BIG difference

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 2w

The logic is still the same. How can you be mad Mark Zuckerberg or Bezo or Elon … etc are rich when they literally built companies/own companies millions if not billions of people use every single day 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> zkami 2w

Two things: how they get the money and what they do with it. They got as rich as they did through exploitation. And they use it to control our political system and further exploit us Being a millionaire is possible without that kind of exploitation and it doesn’t give you the crazy amount of political power that billions does

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 2w

go ahead and explain how the people working at Amazon corporate, Tesla and Meta making mid 6 figs … upwards of 100M+ salaries are getting exploited. Please go ahead and explain 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> zkami 2w

Also you have to remember that they hired people to build things. They may have been in charge of setting up the framework, but that framework is filled by millions of workers who actually did the work Also Elon musk didn’t really build his companies, he bought them and became public hype man for them

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Anonymous replying to -> zkami 2w

Do you really want to use Amazon as one of your examples 🤦 they’re literally infamous for exploiting their warehouse workers

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Anonymous replying to -> zkami 2w

Like really, how did your mind jump to upper level employees in a discussion about exploitation 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 2w

This Elon fud is honestly hilarious. He came in early before any real product was ready and pushed for the what become the model 3, Y, S and X. And made Tesla one of the most valuable companies on earth. His leadership made Tesla what it is which is why … his shareholder approved stock option plans are so massive

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 2w

Also under your logic. The pothead warehouse Amazon worker is just as important as Jeff Bezos, creating the business plans raising the funding, making the process, taking the business loans … and all the risk for no money for YEARS. He’s exploiting the guy who just filled out an application for guaranteed pay with benefits Rights

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 2w

Bro starting salaries at corporate Amazon and Meta roles are 6 figs+ Warehouse workers aren’t being exploited they are warehouse workers. Imagine applying to a trillion dollar company to do low skill labor for guaranteed pay, benefits, free college and you think they are exploiting you 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> green_military_helmet57 2w

Nobody said it’s a “necessity” to be a billionaire. But who are you to put a cap on how much someone can earn?

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Anonymous replying to -> #25 2w

Not only that but idk how these people think they can use something like meta (IG), Amazon, etc Everyday and then be mad when the people who started them and own equity in those companies have billions of dollars in shares

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Anonymous replying to -> zkami 2w

“Warehouse workers aren’t being exploited they are warehouse workers” alright pack it up

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 2w

Yeah low skill warehouse house work pays like 18-25 and hour. Thanks how much they make at Amazon and Amazon also gives them awesome benefits they wouldn’t have at a smaller company How are they being exploited

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Anonymous replying to -> zkami 2w

You already said the quiet part out loud. You can’t backtrack from that

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Anonymous replying to -> #24 2w

I didn’t back track I expanded on what I meant. How do you exploit low skill laborers? They are getting paid market wages and are given benefits.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Room temp. IQ take*

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 2w

Job creation isn’t inherently exploitation.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 2w

YES IT DOES! In order to be a billionaire you have to have people at the bottom doing damn near slave labor if not actual slave labor for you to make that much profit. Just look into it for yourself. Nestle, Amazon, Apple, SHEIN. They all profit off of slave labor, if they paid the people who mine cobalt, harvest chocolate, and the 3rd world workers living in factories a halfway decent living wage they would not be able to be that rich. There are no ethical billionaires.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 2w

So why do you buy from them then?

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 2w

I honestly try my best not to! I don’t buy nestle products, I never buy SHEIN or temu, and I have bought one (used) Apple product in my entire life. I only use Amazon if I really have to, and I try to shop locally if I can.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 2w

No, that isn’t how you become a billionaire. You do that by creating a product or services that a ton of people want.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

Word

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 2w

They do spend it, they’re most of the economy They just usually have more than they can spend that fast & continue to accumulate it fast. Usually when people reach a certain level of wealth it becomes sort of an escape velocity, capitalism makes it easier to make more money when you have a lot of capital

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Anonymous replying to -> green_military_helmet57 2w

What does Epstein have to do with this guy come on smh

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 2w

Lol

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Anonymous replying to -> green_military_helmet57 2w

Epstein is not an “example of the kind of corruption and greed it would take to become a billionaire the ability to screw over and hurt so many people…” Bc Epstein was an intelligence operation targeting billionaires. He wasn’t a self made billionaire himself. Some of them were even victims themselves of his blackmail

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 2w

That’s extremely easy to do…

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Anonymous replying to -> green_military_helmet57 2w

I have no idea why people so often feel more taxes are a solution to everything or anything when every year the amount of money the government throws away and takes in with taxes goes up and nothing ever changes. Even if you took all the private money everywhere out of peoples hands, the government would not be able to effectively allocate it It’s just a terrible idea. Federal governments are horrible capital allocators. Governments at every level are, state municipal etc.

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 2w

Why do so many people living here have absolutely no idea how astronomically better the standard of living is compared to so many other countries. Not to mention the upward class mobility They complain about it not being fair bc some dude has a lot when they themselves can’t even appreciate they have a life 1000’s of times better than tribal Mohammad in Iraq shearing sheep for a living with no phone or car or mcdonalds

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 2w

Other countries suck. Like a lot. And before somebody tries to argue that like Switzerland or Denmark is the shiznit or something, they’re okay but it’s still way wayyy better here. I feel like people have never left this country and just think the entire world is like this. It’s not…

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Anonymous replying to -> #28 2w

As an immigrant from a third world country, I could accuse most people here of being wasteful for not living frugally and donating their excesses if it meant freeing even one child from a Congolese cobalt mine. It seems like people need existential problems to tackle, even when they have it all. We may be so used to needing to deal with problems that we make some up.

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Anonymous replying to -> #28 2w

And the fact that the US is/was set up so that most people are above water does not mean everyone deserves the same compensation. The fact that we value certain things differently is enough reason to compensate them differently. We tend to value things like intelligence but they aren’t evenly distributed - some people are born with more or less intelligence……

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Anonymous replying to -> #28 2w

…Others are born more beautiful, and others still are born more creative. Some people have all of those things, and it’s just what it is. It’s all fairly random, but we value these characteristics nevertheless. If we wanted to be “fair”, we would need another few hundred thousand years of reprogramming.

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Anonymous replying to -> #27 2w

Yeah it’s mistakenly thinking that resources are finite, or that finite resources are all in circulation. People legitimately create new things for other people to do that makes like easier for everyone. Those people aren’t taking from you. They aren’t always “taking” all the money, they are increasing the available goods and services, which we quantify with money. It’s like your parents building a house and then paying you to do chores in it. N.B: Sometimes people do take your money though.

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Anonymous replying to -> #29 2w

Lol word

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 2w

Being a billionaire doesn’t automatically mean someone exploited people. Many billionaires become wealthy because they create products or services that millions of people voluntarily choose to buy. Their wealth usually comes from owning shares in a successful company, not from directly taking money from workers. If a company grows because it creates real value, treats employees fairly, and people freely support its products, then it’s possible for someone to become a billionaire ethically.

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Anonymous replying to -> green_military_helmet57 2w

why are you equating the behavior of a mossad agent running a blackmail operation to normal people

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Anonymous replying to -> #17 2w

You clearly don’t understand how net worth works. Jeff Bezos was the richest man in the world during a period in time where Amazon wasn’t even turning a profit. Because net worth and stock prices has isn’t directly tied with profitability

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Anonymous replying to -> zkami 2w

Because these people always go to the extremes with this argument

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 2w

Huge difference between 10 million and 1 billion, buddy boy

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

think you missed the point of the message buddy boy

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 2w

Pretty sure we had incentives, businesses, and the like a long time before we had billionaires. It’s a nice argument but being a multimillionaire is a pretty good incentive.

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Anonymous replying to -> #33 2w

Billionaire’s only get that way by making something extraordinary that the market wants. It’s not a zero sum game. Go create something that people need and you will be rich. Or work for people that do that and you can still have a good life.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 2w

dude clearly doesn’t have a skull

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Anonymous replying to -> #33 2w

Not true at all lol.

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Anonymous replying to -> #34 2w

Ad hominem argument. Do better

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Anonymous replying to -> #26 2w

I don’t think Tesla’s are anything extraordinary. Being rich isn’t the sole purpose of life. If some of that wealth were to be redistributed many people could live above the poverty line. Many people have made extraordinary things and died broke. Nikola Tesla was a great example of that. I get that it is not a zero sum game. But it is not a game at all. You don’t deserve my right to live just because you made something extraordinary.

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Anonymous replying to -> #30 2w

I don’t think he did because you two are talking about entirely different things

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Anonymous replying to -> #33 2w

Most wealth isn’t even liquid capital. What are you gonna redistribute… equity in companies owned by the people who founded or are operating it? What are you talking about

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Anonymous replying to -> zkami 2w

They’re gonna take the clothes off your back and divide it up with shears so that everyone gets a rag

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Anonymous replying to -> zkami 2w

non liquid wealth is an elitists tax evasion scheme. If you can purchase things with unrealized gains, you should be taxed on unrealized gains. And no, that doesn't mean that there should be government reimbursements for losses. It means that when Elon Musk purchases twitter with stocks, those stocks are liquidated and properly taxed

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 2w

Dude what? Taxing unrealized gains would literally affect everyone. Look what happened to Income Taxes.

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 2w

You literally cannot purchase anything with “unrealized gains”. A stock buyout isn’t that either. I don’t think a private person has ever done a solo stock buyout … corps do it by issuing shares. those aren’t unrealized anything…. those are new shares being issued

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