
Has nothing to do with God btw. Human sin is the reason for pain in the world, if God wiped sin out by force (therefore reestablishing a perfect earth with no sin and no death), then we would become mindless robots. Instead he offered humanity a choice to either accept redemption and conform ourselves to Him or not to. God limits himself for the sake of our free will.
Well yeah thats what the idea is. According to Christianity death is the wages (direct result of) sin. Before sin entered the world, there was no death or suffering. Hurricanes and volcanoes are not evils in and of themselves. The destruction they cause would be considered evil, but in a world without death where these things couldn’t hurt anyone, they would just be another showcase of God’s power and majesty, like all the rest of Creation.
What you are doing here is called “putting God in a box.” And mutations are not necessary for reproduction. In today’s world mutations always happens with reproduction, and it is an important source of genetic variation. However, this would be unnecessary with a perfectly designed gene pool. I would also like to remind you that this is my own conjecture, not the teaching of the church or the Bible. As there are multiple interpretations of Genesis.
I’d need a definition of what “putting God in a box” means to you. It seems to me that you implicitly believe in the laws of physics radically changing (hence mutations and harmful {as opposed to “non-harmful”} natural phenomena like hurricanes and volcanoes) after the event of original sin without any external evidence, and that is what I am trying to get you to clarify.
I would also now add “perfectly designed gene pool” to your list of assertions as well. However, even with a “perfect” gene pool, without sufficient population size and genetic drift, human sexual reproduction as you describe it (prior to original sin) might genetically get eerily close to asexual outcomes (populations with very uniform genomes) without any mutation.
id like to ask you where you think the laws of physics came from if not God. Nothing comes from Nothing. We can look at nature and see this. And i posture that if there is a God that created the heaven and the earth then He is perfectly capable of changing those rules when and however he wants to. Assuming He cant is putting him “in a box” per se.
How can we infer the claim “nothing comes from nothing” from nature I’m agnostic to where the laws of physics came from (I’m not very well-read on advanced physics). To be clear, are you asking why the laws of physics are the way we observe them to be, or are you asking what grounds the laws of physics? See my previous message regarding miracles, and why I don’t think I’m putting God in a box.
Because nothing can be manufactured from nothing. Even to create mass you need energy, and to make energy you need mass (if you aren’t just converting mass to mass and energy to energy). What i was saying is there is nothing in nature that comes into being by itself, everything has a cause or a form of existence before itself. Flies don’t appear from the air but they hatch from eggs laid by other flies. Sand doesn’t appear in the desert, it is ground down from larger rocks and particles.
Satan was literally God’s favorite angel who got banished to hell cuz he disagreed with God (like a normal son-father relationship) and promoted the idea of free will, as opposed to God’s demand of lifelong worship and dedication to his requirements lmao. Satan is literally a bro and God’s kind of a huge dick.
Generally speaking (at least in a non-academic sense), I’m relatively inclined to agree with you that “nothing comes from nothing”, but in the context of a Philosophy of Religion discussion, I think you’re being sloppy in justifying “nothing comes from nothing” with an inductive argument rather than a deductive argument. That being said, I’m happy to (huge emphasis here) ~tentatively~ affirm “nothing comes from nothing” if that keeps the conversation moving.