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What’s going on with flock is more insidious then you think. They’re trying to remove the general acceptability of “right to privacy” so gov can claim most things in the public domain are not inherently private. Removing the need for warrants and subpoena
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Anonymous 1d

that’s just not really true tho is it. by the public domain I assume you’re talking about public property such as city owned roads, parks, etc and there has never been a “right to privacy” in public. you don’t need a warrant to walk through a public park and arrest someone if you see them smoking crack

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

i think flock cameras are incredibly insidious and the increasing militarization and technological capacity of the police has made being in public less private, it doesn’t actually erode any legal protection to privacy in public. let’s be realistic and grounded and not make stuff up without understanding how the law works because that helps no one

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

All laws are persecuted via precedent. Flock erodes precedent of privacy in public.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

there is no precedent for privacy in public because you explicitly have no expectation of privacy in public.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

In the relationship of Gov and Civilian you do. Civilian to Civilian you don’t. A cop can’t legally watch your car without an investigation or warrant. But flock can, and police can simply purchase that service.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

the police literally can watch your can as long as the want in public without a warrant because there is no expectation of privacy in public. you’re just talking out of your ass you’re blatantly wrong and don’t know what you’re talking about. look up expectation of privacy in public, i am begging you to do the most cursory of research on the subject omfg

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

They legally cannot.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

not to mention flock isn’t the first widespread camera surveillance, there have been cctv cameras on private and public lands for a very long time the actually difference with flock is they aren’t closed circuit which makes them inherently less secure, they offer built in tracking capabilities, and it’s a private company that responds extremely poorly to security researchers trying to engage in responsible disclosure of security vulnerabilities

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

you’re factually incorrect. i can’t keep having this conversation any further if the actual truth doesn’t mean anything to you

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

What exactly are you advocating for? Are you pro flock and just a contrarian?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_expectation_of_privacy read the wikipedia page. you do not have a reasonable right to privacy in public places, the only exceptions are places like public bathrooms. your trash is also considered part of this which is why the government can search through your trash without a warrant

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1d

no i’m advocating for the truth of what the law states about your expectation to privacy. you are factually incorrect and spreading misinfo doesn’t actually help to fight against the spread of flock cameras or surveillance devices, it just makes you look stupid

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

Bottom line: thanks to flock (and others) gov longer needs a warrant to track you. Previously the only economic way to do so was via a gps tracker - which required a warrant. This is because your movements are constitutional guaranteed as a right to travel.

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