
so, the president has the power to use the military how they want, but then within 48 hours, has to report if it can be continued, that’s when congress gets to approve or deny. comes from the war powers resolution of 1973 if congress does not approve, the forces must be recalled within 60-90 days
If you think it’s a bad thing, go back and look at pictures of people and more importantly, women, in Persia before the regime took over. Then look up them killing gays by throwing them off buildings, stoning women to death, using young boys as concubines, and that last month they murdered 30 THOUSAND protestors. And if you still think “why isn’t someone stopping trump” time you realize you have completely and totally lost your ability to think, reason, and not spit venous hatrid bc ur told to
To be fair it’s been precedent that we do something then go to said place that we did something to for a certain duration and not declare war my sources the Afghanistan and Iraq war. Last time we declared was Vietnam and we have certainly been in “conflicts” since then. And as navy_cupcake said president can send sources they just have to be withdrawn 60-90 days after but there is not rule for renewal of those days, hence why we there for decades with no decree of war.
good god one middle gets sent and all of the sudden it’s war? Are we just going to blatantly let some other country bomb us without retaliation? From what i understand i thought we dont fold to foreign aggression, but then again this country is soft ash. I genuinely dont understand some of yall😭
this goes further tho, if trump says, ya im just launching missiles to take out XYZ, without committing troops, i believe it falls within his jurisdiction as commander in chief, while committing troops has to be done with congressional approval. its how in the past things like drone strikes and assassination of terrorist leaders are done, without congressional approval, but they are informed within 48 hours
not to mention the ayatollah we killed has been absolutely horrendous to his own people, it’s the same thing that happened in venezuela. I just don’t understand the fact that all of these european and middle eastern countries complain when we don’t help, but the second we do something it’s like the ultimate sin
Oh you don’t like the timing? I’m so sorry the liberation of the Iranian people didn’t jibe with your schedule. Why don’t you ask an Iranian what they think about the timing? And no, you cannot hate both. If you are “mad” about the decapitation of this regime, you support the status quo, which was violent authoritarian rule. There is no secret third option where Iran magically stops being what Iran has been for forty years.
that’s what they all do. it’s just “orange man bad”. they did the same for maduro. not to mention the millions of venezuelans who celebrated after his capture or the iranians all over the world celebrating ayatollahs death. just cuz trump did it they don’t like it. such dumb fucking people we share a country with
That’s true, but it’s not a rational decision for the ‘chief of state’ and the ‘chief diplomat’ to make without consultation. It came completely out of left field, usually this action is reserved as a last resort or a self defense mechanism. I don’t see declaring war on Iran on the fly a rational choice to make and it really would not phase me if he somehow tries to fight the check and balance system on this. Let’s call it what it is, which is Trump being a power hungry sham of a leader.
i would very much disagree with this due to Obama, Obama set the precedent for preemptive strikes across the middle east. his drone operations were all done without congressional approval. while i don’t support a war with Iran, nor any of our past administrations since JFK, Trump is within his rights at the current. i also do not believe congress will ever approve a war with Iran, nor do I believe that actual “war” is going to happen.
Obama used the 2001 Authorization of Use of Military Force, which was created after 9/11, to justify the drone strikes. over 500 in-fact and that is the lower estimate. there were around 300-800 civilians killed by these strikes. all done without congressional approval. all done without declaration of war.