Anonymous #2 3d

Well yes, we are priviliged for the reasons OP mentioned. America has enslaved much of the world for its benefit

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Anonymous #4 3d

For our, Americans, benefit though.

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Anonymous #4 3d

For example, America isn’t actually helping Israel’s genocide *for funsies*. Western Imperialism needs Israel as a giant forward military base in the Middle East, an as a testing ground for new tactics and military technology

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Anonymous #3 3d

Yes of course. For Americans’ beneft, no one elses

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Anonymous #4 3d

Holy conspiracy theorist

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Anonymous #4 3d

Also, the U.S. is not directly harming Palestinians. We’re demanding Hamas release the hostages

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Anonymous #3 3d

They are definitely not on the better end

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Anonymous #5 3d

Who would you say is better

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Anonymous #2 3d

I mean thats just not true, the US has armed Israel every step of the way, provided funding, every type of bomb, missile, jet, and ammunition. Furthermore, the US has vetoed every single UN unconditional ceasefire resolution and Palestinian statehood

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Anonymous #4 3d

Thats only the tip of the iceberg, Israel literally only exists because the US/UK made it, we armed extremist zionist militias and helped them ethnically cleanse Palestine, and then they “declared” the state of Israel

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Anonymous #3 3d

definitely not america! We are barely in the top ten for reading, science, or math. Were not even top 15 in freedom. Being a true American patriot is realizing when your country is in decline and wanting to help, not pretending everything is perfect

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Anonymous #2 3d

As for the world- its not a conspiracy theory. You do realize the US controls the world bank and IMF, right?

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Anonymous #5 3d

No we definitely need help in those areas I agree, but I’m just genuinely asking what country is better. I think open discussion is good and I want to learn

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Anonymous #2 3d

Replied below, see other comment

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Anonymous #3 3d

Why not have a word where there is no singular dominant superpower? Thats a weak response, thats no excuse for the US to invade countries and keep them in a cycle of debt or install dictatorships

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Anonymous #4 3d

Yikes😭 I’ve taken two courses on the history, and although you’re correct in that the British empire (not the U.S.) was the one who initially owned the land and left everything to go to hell. Also, in 1948, Israel was attacked by 5 Arab armies. The U.S. and great Brit were actively trying to DISARM Israel.

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Anonymous #4 3d

You think there is no top country? We are all equal? Or We all suck lol? And how is my response weak, I agreed with some of what you said and asked your opinion

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Anonymous #2 3d

“The UK technically owned the land” False, I’m afraid youve been brainwashed by the imperialists

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Anonymous #2 3d

So many things wrong with this. Your comments show an arrogant, neocolonialist worldview. 1. The Palestinians owned Palestine 2. The British were foreign conquerers 3. The British never had the right to “give away” Palestine

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Anonymous #4 3d

Because they conquered it. Like it or not this is history. It’s awful, but conquering land was a common thing. It was the Ottoman Empire before great Britain. Please PLEASEEE pick up an actual history book instead of ur phone. From an unbiased source

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Anonymous #2 3d

4. The Arab nations attacked the Zionists… because the Zionist stole Palestine? Because the Zionists ethnically cleansed and murdered 1 million+ Arabs in the Nakba????

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Anonymous #2 3d

You do not sound like an unbiased source or like someone who knows history, lmao

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Anonymous #3 3d

I think you are getting me and #4 confused. we are separate people, better countries would be Canada, Switzerland, Denmark, Australia even. American is not the top country anymore

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Anonymous #2 3d

You sound like someone who took 2 western history/polisci courses (propaganda bullshit) and is now echoing that propaganda bullshut

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Anonymous #4 3d

I’m not speaking on opinion. I’m speaking in historical accuracy. Fine, Britain didn’t own Palestine, but they were granted the mandate to administer the territory. So… according to how the world works…

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Anonymous #2 3d

“They were granted the mandate to administer the territory”? By whom? Did the Palestinians issue them this mandate????

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Anonymous #4 3d

No babe what… I took a class specifically on the history of Israel Palestine… I’m sorry I’m not communicating my points as eloquently as you’d like but it’s kinda hard to explain such a complex history in a fucking yikyak comment section

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Anonymous #2 3d

explaing facts isnt hard. Go ahead, were listening

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Anonymous #2 3d

Your comments are so racist and reveal such a racist view of history. The western powers “granted” themselves the right to “administer” the Middle East, Asia and Africa in 1919. In other words, they illegally conquered and occupied the rest of the world

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Anonymous #4 3d

By whom? So you don’t know the history then. This is very basic level stuff. Palestine was apart of Ottoman Syria. After the Ottoman Empire fell, the british administration was given the mandate by the League of Nations

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Anonymous #5 3d

Oh you’re right I did get yall confused, so responding to you, #5 lol, I think I would have to look into that more but I think you are definitely right in saying America is declining in many ways.

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Anonymous #4 3d

Holy fuck YOURE NOT GETTING WHAT IM SAYING!!!! I never said that what they did was okay, I never said that conquering anything was a good thing, I’m telling you the facts of what happened. Get your head out of your ass and stop trying to pin the racist label on anyone who disagrees with you

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Anonymous #2 3d

The League of Nations were just the western powers! The vast majority of Asia, Africa, Middle East, even South America were colonies at this time

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Anonymous #2 3d

“Knowing history” Sir. History requires critical thinking and understanding real power dynamics. You know some dates, sure. But you very clearly do not UNDERSTAND history.

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Anonymous #3 3d

I do not hate America for reference! I love our country, I just believe that true Americans should learn to work together to want a better life, and ignoring the problems is not going to help. No country is the absolute best or better than another, but its important to notice when we can do better as citizens

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Anonymous #4 3d

Yeah babe I know that😭 I’m genuinely just trying to give you more insight and I was not trying to start an argument. It’s people like you who are just absolutely unwilling to have a discussion who divide sides of every conflict. You don’t want to actually listen and learn or educate, you just go straight to insulting character instead of providing actual facts.

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Anonymous #3 3d

I’m saying there should not be any “top country” or dominant superpower. How about no country or bloc rules the world?

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Anonymous #4 3d

I’m completely fine with you thinking I don’t know my stuff bc I do. If you’re actually willing to have a respectful discussion then dm me

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Anonymous #2 3d

I’m not trying to be mean. You literally said “the British owned” and then “were given the right to administer Palestine”. Just re-read what you wrote. It very much glosses over what was a forced conquest. I dont necessarily think its your fault or you’re bad. Unfortunately, most western history classes still whitewash imperialism and colonialism

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Anonymous #4 3d

You’re right, “owned” was the incorrect word. I know it was a forced conquest. I never denied that?? I’m just saying this is why the following events happened. Also don’t try that “oh ur just uneducated it’s ok” thing please. I’m extremely passionate about this topic and have done extensive research from sources with bias from both sides as well as sources with as little bias as I could find.

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Anonymous #2 3d

The “narrative” and who controls it is essential to history. And I guarantee you, calling it “Britain was given administrative control of Palestine” is not an unbiased telling of history. Thats very much a telling that is biased towards Britain and the colonial powers

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Anonymous #4 3d

Yes Britain was given a mandate, known as the British mandate of Palestine… this is literally just fact. Just because it was given through fucked up means doesn’t make it any less true

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Anonymous #4 3d

And I’m not denying that the Palestinians deserve their own land bc they absolutely do and they were totally fucked over

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Anonymous #2 3d

Or saying “5 Arab armies attacked Israel”. Thats a very… biased way of telling history. It would be far more accurate to say: Zionists, a settler-colonial movement, ethnically cleansed and murdered large numbers of native Palestinian people (the Nakba), so the Arab nations fought back

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Anonymous #2 3d

“Britain was given a mandate”. See? Thats a very biased telling of history. The British and other european colonial powers divided up the rest of the world like a pie. They conquered the world, against the wishes of the people they conquered.

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Anonymous #4 3d

This is also very biased and contains a whole lot of things to unpack that I don’t really want to get into bc I have hella philosophy work to do 😭😭I recommend you read an unedited version of Hertzl’s work and Israel’s Declaration of Independence

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Anonymous #2 3d

Which part is biased? I agree no one is 100% unbiased but my telling is far more accurate than yours. You can’t just say “Arab countries attacked Israel” without saying why: The “creation” of Israel was a violent act of imperialism where Arabs were slaughtered, displaced, and causing a refugee crisis.

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Anonymous #2 3d

When you use the passive voice, “the British were given a mandate” it makes it seem legal and benign. Thats not what happened. The Europeans violently conquered the world, and declared it legal post-hoc.

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Anonymous #4 3d

U keep saying the same thing and I keep responding with the same thing😭 the Ottoman Empire conquered Palestine, Ottoman Empire fell after WW1, aka conquered was conquered. The allied powers then had to allocate the conquered land, to which this land was allocated to British rule. It’s not biased to say that the land was conquered. That’s literally just what happens in war

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Anonymous #4 3d

I KNOWWW queen I’ve said multiple times that conquering and colonization is BAD idk how many times I can have this conversation

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Anonymous #5 3d

This might be a hot take But how does reading, science, and math levels make you evil?

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Anonymous #6 3d

I wasn’t meaning for those reasons specifically America is evil, just that no country is “good” or as great as they should be, and I think America is one of the better ones even though it is still not perfect (I probably should have used a different word than evil)

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Anonymous #3 3d

Yeah I was going to say those things dint really correlate lol. You’re good though. I just feel like if people don’t like it, it’s considered evil. Like the deportations. Yes there are those wrongfully getting kicked out but at the same time majority are not. It’s not evil to kick someone out who you never welcomed in to begin with. Can we improve the process yes 100% but it’s not evil

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Anonymous #6 3d

I agree, people jump to hate things like deportation without fully understanding it. The bigger picture is the most important part, no process will ever be perfect

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Anonymous #3 3d

Exactly. I feel terrible for those wrongfully getting deported but that’s what happens when you rush things. Mistakes happen. Are they good mistakes no but the world isn’t perfect. I’m sure if any of us found a homeless man in our house we’d all freak out and call the cops or say gtf out😂 We wouldn’t care why they’re there. Does that make us evil? No lol

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Anonymous #6 3d

Exactly, and also I feel awful for families getting separated and stuff I know that has to be horrible but people have to understand there are consequences for breaking the law, just because someone awful like that came from someone breaking the law does not excuse the crime committed

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Anonymous #3 3d

I hate to use this example but for women, why do you lock your doors at night? Is it the uncertainty of who may try and open that door? You lock it because you don’t want to risk the intentions of let’s say a man breaking in.

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Anonymous #3 3d

I just realized the bear or man example goes exactly with this😂

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Anonymous #6 3d

Literally

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Anonymous #3 3d

Another is stores locking up their products. Majority of us it annoys because why should, someone who wouldn’t steal etc, have to deal with a lock etc. But the store doesn’t care because there are those who will steal. They take precautions not because of you but because of them, as in the bad guys.

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Anonymous #6 3d

I’m going to have to use that one, that’s a great way to explain it

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Anonymous #8 2d

Look at what #3 and I discussed. Somethings don’t actually make you the villain. Education levels and healthcare are all opinionated.

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Anonymous #8 2d

Genocide you can argue but we also aren’t ourselves doing the genocide.

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Anonymous #7 2d

Those don’t make someone the villain😂

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Anonymous #6 2d

Denying YOUR OWN citizens the best medicine in the world, which YOU OWN?! I think that does make you the villain!

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Anonymous #7 2d

If other people don’t want to pay for it? Do you want to pay for my groceries?

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Anonymous #7 2d

Or will you say the rich should pay it? So expecting others to cover your things and if they don’t want to they’re evil.

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Anonymous #6 2d

What kind of logic is that? Tf are you talking about?

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Anonymous #6 2d

If you own something that can keep people from actively DYING and you withhold it for profit, yeah! If you put (💵 > 🧑‍🧑‍🧒‍🧒 = 👿evil👹) I drew it up for you in case you need pictures to understand this basic concept.

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Anonymous #7 2d

Who’s paying for it?

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Anonymous #7 2d

Unless you always give to the homeless every time you see someone, You value 💴 over helping them by your logic and you therefore are evil

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Anonymous #6 2d

There’s a difference between hoarding Billions and not giving money that I need. Could I be giving more to charity, sure! But I’ll tell you something: for me to give $100 is roughly equal to Elon Musk giving away $100,000,000 so yeah…. Not the same…

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Anonymous #7 2d

You still could so you therefore are evil

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Anonymous #7 2d

If a homeless person doesn’t know your background etc, they see someone who doesn’t want to help them. Plus Elon is 1 person…….1 person doesn’t define and or control an entire country

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