Ask Anything on Sidechat | i fear america has gotten too woke- not in the political sense per say but the lack of chivalry way. so when did every subway/ bus have men sitting in the seats while the majority of women (some pregnant or elderly) are standing? just weird behavior imo

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i fear america has gotten too woke- not in the political sense per say but the lack of chivalry way. so when did every subway/ bus have men sitting in the seats while the majority of women (some pregnant or elderly) are standing? just weird behavior imo

Anonymous 6w

It’s a lack of community and awareness. It’s the focus on one’s self that causes this and it sucks. We should have a team mentality in giving up seats to people who need it. And sorry not sorry but in many cases women deserve seats over men they have periods and often bear chronic illnesses that don’t get treated well because of funding going to men’s health stuff so like the least they can do is spare a seat #hottake

Anonymous 6w

Why should an able body man give up his seat for an able body woman? He got there first. I agree with elderly or pregnant. But a normal man and a woman are both entitled to the seat. That’s what equality is.

Anonymous 6w

tbh as a guy, i wouldn’t expect a woman i don’t even know to offer me any kind of consideration, respect, or empathy. it’s nice when it happens, but it’s definitely not something i can imagine feeling entitled to, no matter how much i might need it.

Anonymous 6w

They just weren’t raised right imo

Anonymous 6w

It’s because of the huge equal gender rights push. They wanna make all this noise but then still expect to be pampered when they say that hate men.

Anonymous 6w

I’ll give up my seat to the elderly but the men hating feminist? Nope

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Anonymous 6w

Woke is not being chivalrous lmao

Anonymous 6w

i think this discourse is so important.. first, as a woman i am glad to have my freedom but why does that equate to a total loss of chivalry? chivalry is not a religious ideology or an old fashioned concept to bring women or men down, it helps our society when men are pushed out of their comfort zones to prioritize empathy since, unlike women, it is not in the forefront of their instinctual nature. men are becoming more violent toward women, losing chivalry is a negative societal shift.

Anonymous 6w

I agree w y’all but feminism ruined it for you

Anonymous 6w

That’s the opposite. That’s just lack of empathy and community.

Anonymous 6w

That was for when women did women things why should a man do that for someone else that wants to act like a man. Obviously we would do that for someone pregnant, disabled,old, a child. Women wanted to be treated like a man so now they have it. You genuinely cannot expect to be held a mens standards PLUS the benefit of them bending a knee to you.

Anonymous 6w

It’s not woke it’s “feminism” when I worked retail, several I heard some coworkers being politely asked out on dates and they would respond with “ I can take myself on dates”. Anyways, I also noticed men want to be wined and dined too and fucked in the ass.

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Anonymous

#2 6w

I’ll take it tbh I’d rather have to stand on the bus than be denied access to abortion

Anonymous

#2 6w

hmmmm..... maybe feminism has ruined things.......idk which is better😣😣 being able to vote, have my own bank account, & have control over my body... or have men give me their seat & open doors for me a little more often? LMFAO ill take the feminism.

Anonymous

#2 6w

It’s not feminism it’s men not having human decency or empathy.

Anonymous

#2 6w

My bf acts chivalrous and has kindness for everyone. If he saw a pregnant woman, he would 100% give up his seat, and he believes in feminism and women’s rights. It’s not wokeness. You’re just a POS.

Anonymous

#8 6w

Lmao

Anonymous

#6 6w

I love that I’ve been saying that for years now.

Anonymous

OP 6w

that’s a solid take but I’ve never really bought the idea that men or women are more inclined to specific virtues. The unique way every individual human being has been brought up really muddies any argument about instinctual nature.

Anonymous

#6 6w

Oh please, be fr. Ofc if I saw a pregnant or elderly woman, or just someone I thought needed it, I’d give up a seat no problem, but when most of what we see in the news and social media is women saying all men are awful and no one needs them and women are better, it tends to put a bad taste in my mouth about ‘being chivalrous’ toward women in general

Anonymous

#13 6w

imo if we want to improve the situation on male violence toward women, we should focus on making sure it actually gets punished, and harshly (rapists get off scot-free EXTREMELY often, and even when they are convicted sentences are often way too light) instead of upholding expectations that just reinforce a sense of otherness

Anonymous

#13 6w

i agree with that, harsher punishment is a need but as every day people, or as mentors of next generations i think we can make a start by changing our culture as well, since as you said people are also a product of their environments

Anonymous

#13 6w

to expand on the “nature vs nurture” thing I guarantee you’ve met lots of kind and thoughtful men, and lots of harsh and stubborn women. It’s all about the circumstances people have faced and the way they were raised. And men who *are* less inclined to empathy were probably impacted by the heavily-ingrained cultural norm that men are *expected* to be that way.

Anonymous

OP 6w

that’s fair but I would say men treating women as equals is a better sign of respect. Kindness doesn’t need to exist on the basis of gender

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Anonymous

#14 6w

This is genuinely ominous. You sound like you shouldn’t be allowed in public spaces. Women are not to blame for your problems.

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Anonymous

teriarch 6w

This reply doesn’t even make sense. They said that women who say they hate men (which is a lot of women on social media these days) shouldn’t expect chivalry, which is valid, and you reply with ‘women are not to blame for your problems’ like what??

Anonymous

#2 6w

(Teriarch is one of the people we are talking about)

Anonymous

#2 6w

But yeah the jump in logic is baffling

Anonymous

#17 6w

We get it, you’re not a decent person.

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Anonymous

#12 6w

At least he’s writing at a middle school level

Anonymous

#12 6w

what😭😭 sorry I don't treat all women like prizes. Women are equal now. You got what you wanted. But it's not enough for you? You don't want equality then you want to be treated better than men. 🤷‍♂️ why would I treat equal peer like their better than me?

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Anonymous

#17 6w

Your inability to be a decent person, let alone understand why I’m saying this, is not my burden. Get into therapy.

Anonymous

#12 6w

Again you wanted to be equal to men. Thats what being equal means. Objectively. You want men to bend the knee to you. While being equal. Unless you can use logic and not spew emotional nonsense then you’re just talking to talk. Chivalry is a form of gender role. But you don’t like gender roles unless you’re the sole beneficiary.

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Anonymous

#17 6w

This is just the most wonderful example of how patriarchy harms men too.

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Anonymous

teriarch 6w

Negative, thats the opposite of patriarchy. As you can see it’s an example of how women want to be treated better than men. In a patriarchy women had chivalrous men. At least in America.

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Anonymous

#17 6w

Predictably, it went right over your head.

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Anonymous

teriarch 6w

Do you have an argument or just tiny quips to feel morally superior? Cause all Im saying is women are equal now but want better treatment.

Anonymous

#17 6w

Y’all do realize there is another section of chivalry that applies to protecting and being kind to the poor and those weaker than you. Because y’all hyper focused on one portion of it.

Anonymous

#10 6w

Because one is based on material conditions and the other is based on immutable characteristics.

Anonymous

#15 6w

True while I did choose another section similar to the one in question their is another section with devotion to god. And another with a set of values one should hold themselves accountable to.

Anonymous

#10 6w

I don’t care so more for the religious aspect of it but the rest of it is still good standards to live by.

Anonymous

#10 5w

I do care for the religious aspect, which is why I remain chivalrous towards women despite it being grossly imbalanced on paper. What I don’t care for is when people act like it’s something women uniquely deserve simply for being women, rather than an unearned act of charity that ought to be freely given out of a general love for mankind.

Anonymous

#15 5w

Okay so we are on the same page but just different thinking and reasoning for doing so.

Anonymous

#2 5w

That’s a you problem

Anonymous

#6 5w

It’s not a problem for me to keep my seat. By the way y’all are talking , it’s a women problem

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Anonymous

#2 5w

No, it’s an asshole problem, and you happen to be part of that.

Anonymous

#12 5w

Is it really ‘me being part of the problem’ when I give valid reasons for men being less likely to be chivalrous these days and the response is just ‘that’s a you problem’ ? Not even a valid retort or counter argument, just further proves my point

Anonymous

#2 5w

Yes, you are proving the point that it’s an asshole problem.