Anonymous #3 1w

Goon 🤣

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There’s a reason we don’t require that🤦🏻‍♀️ Are you gonna want literacy tests next?

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tf are you chatting about? i didn’t rig nothing. i live in ARKANSAS

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Anonymous #20 1w

Why is this being downvoted. There is a lot of slave labor in california via prisons or undocumented workers and its a problem

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Anonymous #24 1w

I agree with this. Neither Texas nor California should have the right to manipulate elections (which is exactly what has happened with this passing.)

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Anonymous #25 1w

Both sides are frauds

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Anonymous #24 1w

I’m an absolute democrat, no state should be doing this. I feel like it legit erodes democracy.

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Anonymous #24 1w

Gerrymandering is a stain on our country; however, with red states so publicly engaging in it at the encouragement of potus, there seems no other way. The precedent has already been set by the gop. Reaction is inevitable

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Anonymous #27 1w

Man, this sucks. when they go low, should we go lower? I hate the idea of that.

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Anonymous #26 1w

It does suck. Our country is sick. To be fair though, I think it’s they go low we go equally low. It’s a horrible reality we live in

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Like how the republicans did the same in Texas? It all balances out now 😂

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Anonymous #26 1w

From what I understand it isn’t necessarily going lower, it is just trying to re-level the playing field after Texas did a similar thing and got 5 more congressional seats.

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Anonymous #22 1w

Because it makes them look bad. They have very shallow and surface level thinking.

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Anonymous #17 1w

cry

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Anonymous #17 1w

god hes so fucking ugly

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Anonymous #33 1w

kind of like you? 😬

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Anonymous #2 1w

We stuck with Sarah Suckabee and Tom wantstogobacktotheCottonpickingdays

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Anonymous #26 1w

Bc it does

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Anonymous #24 1w

Trump told texas governor to get him more red seats so the maps were redrawn without a say from the people- California in response gave their people a choice if they wanted to redraw their own maps as a counter and they said yes

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Anonymous #24 1w

Its in response to Texas gerrymandering and its only set for one election cycle

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Anonymous #22 1w

It’s not slave labor. I’m going to assume you’re not from CA because in the proposition it clearly stated the prisoners have an option if they want to work to reduce their sentence time. Having a choice doesn’t make you a slave. Do yall really think slaves used to choose to work on farms for white people😭

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Anonymous #38 1w

Indentured servitude, potato potato. Who wouldn’t want to reduce their sentence time? What a dumb excuse to defend this shit…

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Anonymous #29 1w

If it’s physical labor, I wouldn’t do it. Especially if I knew the crime I committed was bad enough that I deserved my time in prison.

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Anonymous #38 1w

Bullshit hahaha don’t lie to yourself you definitely would. People would definitely reduce their time in prison no matter the crime.

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Anonymous #33 1w

The downvotes just proves that I struck a nerve 🤣

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Anonymous #29 1w

no it’s bc you’re admitting he’s ugly and throwing that same insult to someone you haven’t seen LMAO

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Anonymous #26 1w

It does suck, but when their going lower gives them undue power we need to take more drastic measures to survive.

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Anonymous #29 1w

Maybe if they have no morals or are narcissists that care more about themselves then the society they’re a part of🤣 And like I said, physical labor is not my thing. I’d rather have access to free food and a library to better myself for when I got out. I’d also understand I’m there for a reason. Though, to be fair, I wouldn’t do anything to get myself in prison in the first place. I’m dumb, but not that dumb.

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Anonymous #34 1w

lmfaooo next year we got to celebrate!!!! VOTE & get them gone

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Anonymous #19 1w

If this is about requiring ID to vote, there is no reasonable justification for not requiring one and if you think this is racist in any way, check yourself. You need ID for everything and getting one in 2025 isn’t hard. You should have one and it reduces voter fraud.

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Anonymous #29 1w

You already need one to register to vote lol this is such a non issue that republicans are scamming everyone on

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Anonymous #34 1w

How is it a scam to just verify ID matches registration? You know they verify this by just the signature right? Something that can easily be forged?

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Anonymous #19 1w

Y’all complain about votes made by dead people and then bitch about something that’d likely deter that type of fraud. ALSO the fact that ID can be a driver’s license, state ID, military ID, student ID, etc. None of those are 100% inaccessible. Shut the fuck up

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Anonymous #22 1w

Because it has nothing to do with whether prop 50 is good or bad

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Anonymous #41 1w

You are painfully unaware of reality

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Anonymous #19 1w

You know prop 50 is about redrawing maps not requiring IDs for voting right?

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Anonymous #43 1w

Can you explain why or are you just going to make dumb blanket statements?

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Anonymous #29 1w

Because it isn’t about actually verifying ID, it is to make voting more difficult for people who they don’t want to be able to vote.

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Anonymous #23 1w

If you dont have an ID at all its going to be fucking difficult for you to do anything 🤣 EVERYONE HAS AN ID and if you dont and cant get one for god knows what reason then you probably shouldn’t be able to vote

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Anonymous #2 1w

Hi dm

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Anonymous #44 1w

huh

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Anonymous #29 1w

#23 explained it well. To be specific it mostly affects low-income black, indigenous, disabled, elderly and rural people. This is because of financial, time, and mobility constraints. Also voter impersonation fraud is EXTREMELY rare (link with info https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/debunking-voter-fraud-myth). ID requirements serve only to suppress people. Thanks for asking, though you could have done it better.

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Anonymous #29 1w

This is simple incorrect. 21 million Americans do not have an ID. You are privileged and unaware, check yourself. Here’s a link with this data: https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/legacy/d/download_file_39242.pdf

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Anonymous #43 1w

Throw as many dumb articles at me as you want but you are completely overlooking reality here. Without ID you cannot: legally get a job, open a bank account, rent an apartment or house, board a plane, APPLY FOR SNAP, SSDI, or unemployment or most government benefits. You also cannot GET A CELLPHONE PLAN, buy alcohol, get married. The list goes on…

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Anonymous #43 1w

So if you cant fucking hold a job or do anything, I dont think you should have a right to vote in our elections. You are at that point living under the table and most policy decisions dont apply to you, simply put. I dont give a fuck if 21 million sad cases cant get an ID. Figure it out because life is going to be hard for you in this country. Most if not all states make it pretty easy for you anyway. If you cant do that then, gee that sucks!

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Anonymous #43 1w

My opinion is that it should go a step further if you cannot even pass a citizenship test that legal immigrants must take for, you know, BEING A CITIZEN, you shouldn’t be able to vote. You’re right. It’s a privilege being a citizen and having an ID to do basically anything. It should also be a privilege to vote. It’s not racist, it’s just the cold hard truth. But your party hates that. It wants you to blindly vote for them legitimately and illegitimately. Sad.

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Anonymous #29 1w

source: Me, a legal immigrant turned citizen who has an ID. Advocating against voter ID is advocating for voter fraud. You want “undocumented” Americans to vote because it helps your party win elections. If they voted red you’d be for voter ID and I’d put money on that.

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Anonymous #29 1w

maybe you would understand if you pictured yourself being born with generational financial issues caused by systematic oppression, limited time or mobility to go GET an ID, and no resources to figure out how to fix these things on your own. If you had the capacity for empathy perhaps you could put yourself in their shoes and see how something that was easy for you may not be for others. If you were one of those 21 million people how would you feel if someone said idgaf about any of them

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Anonymous #26 1w

I don't believe in the high road

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Anonymous #39 1w

Im not going to have suicidal empathy for anyone who cannot get an ID in this country. They have failed. They have no business voting in our elections. People already didnt gaf about me when I was homeless. But you know I still managed to HAVE AN ID AND EVEN A CELLPHONE PLAN. why? Because im not fucking stupid thats why. No sympathy or empathy for stupid people.

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Anonymous #29 1w

Not sure what “suicidal empathy” is supposed to be but you must be one of the stupid people you’re referring to if you can’t understand that not everyone was provided the same learning resources or opportunities. If a girl is born into an illiterate family, is it her fault if she never learns how to read? Why can’t we step in and help instead of “othering” the less fortunate by separating ourselves from them and calling them names? We are all human and deserve empathy, compassion, and help.

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Anonymous #39 1w

if you want we can talk about feelings, but I'm focused on the facts of living in this country. The reality is, an ID is the single most essential tool for survival. I know from experience that even in the worst circumstances, you make it a priority because you have to. It's the key that unlocks employment, housing, and any hope of stability.

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Anonymous #39 1w

An ID is the bare minimum. And in my opinion, if it's the bare minimum requirement to live and work here, it should absolutely be the bare minimum requirement to vote here. And if you cannot even fucking read, how on earth are you reading a ballot or even understanding who tf you are voting for? God you are a pathetic.

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Anonymous #29 1w

You mentioned you were homeless. Did you ever receive any level of donations, support, or shelter? If so, you are being egregiously hypocritical because, based on your logic, you should’ve figured it out on your own and not received any help. Why do people want the world to be like that? You really want us all to turn away from our neighbors on earth and say we don’t care?

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Anonymous #39 1w

Don't twist my words. I was talking about priorities, not illiteracy. I had no "resources" or "opportunities" when I was homeless, but I still got an ID because I knew I'd be dead in a ditch without one. It's called survival. My point, which you're missing, is that I was one of those "less fortunate" people. I still figured it out. Your "compassion" is just making excuses for people who won't do the bare minimum for themselves.

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Anonymous #39 1w

ALSO calling me "stupid" doesn't make your bad analogy any better. This isn't about "learning resources." It's about taking the first step to exist in society. I did it with nothing. Your empathy is misplaced, and frankly, it's insulting to those of us who actually clawed our way out.

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Anonymous #29 1w

did you go drive to get your own id? How did you pay for the car and gas? Did you have prior documentation to get an ID? What about people who don’t have those things? What’s pathetic is being incapable of comprehending any situation other than the exact one you experienced. It’s a sign of mental inflexibility and a lack of intelligence honestly. you can’t even understand I’m saying we should help kids learn to read so when they CAN vote they understand everything LOL

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Anonymous #29 1w

So you knew that an ID was important to life in America. What about people who weren’t raised to know that? I’ve met people who were born here who simply were born into bad situations with parents who don’t help or know much. Should they be doomed to suffer because you think they should have somehow known all the things to do to get an ID without anyone telling them or giving them the resources to do it themselves?

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Anonymous #29 1w

you may think you got out of that dark, sad low you were at when you were homeless but your senseless anger and hate towards people who have never hurt you tells me you’re still in it.

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Anonymous #29 1w

What about those who have no way to get to the DMV? What about those who work jobs that don’t require that? What about those who are too fucking stressed and broke to get one bc it is not a ‘requirement’ for them? Get the fuck over yourself

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Anonymous #39 1w

You're doubling down on excuses. A car? Gas? I was HOMELESS. You're the one being inflexible if you think I had any of those things. I walked. I found out what I needed and I got it done. spare me the "they weren't raised to know" speech. Nobody told me. You learn real fast that you can't get a job, a room, or a phone plan without an ID. It's called survival, not some secret knowledge. You're just finding more ways to call people helpless.

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Anonymous #43 1w

What about this? What about that? You never experienced it for yourself and are acting like it’s some crazy fucking quest. Tell me how you get a legal job without one? You CANT. Sitting high up their on your cell phone telling others “what about the stupid poor people” fuck off

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Anonymous #29 1w

Voter fraud is largely a myth, .00004% of ballots for voter impersonation (which is the only thing ID would prevent) here’s a link: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/debunking-voter-fraud-myth

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Anonymous #39 1w

I only have senseless anger towards dumb people like you who underestimate people that have no means for anything and can still climb out of poverty. You cant do that without ID, and if you cant do that simple thing then voting is none of your business. If you dont get yourself an ID one way or another then you deserve to be stuck in poverty. Good riddance.

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Anonymous #29 1w

you fuck off dude I’ve been nice but holy shit your brain is so dense my literal JOB is helping disadvantaged people get to better place in life. You only know and care about YOURSELF. Good for you but other people actually care about more than just themselves. Plenty of people work hard and contribute to our society who do not have an ID, you just seem to only value traditional jobs that require a lot of hoop jumping that is harder for some people than others.

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Anonymous #39 1w

You literally cannot hold a legal job without an ID. Idk what the fuck you have been smoking but if you dont have one you’re left with under the table pay. You out of anyone should know this basic fact. Yeah i only care about myself because fuck you thats why. Think of your average american and half are more stupid than that, and most of those people can obtain and ID and vote. So whats the excuse? Lazy and incompetent. Shouldnt vote, end of story.

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Anonymous #39 1w

Suck my cock and balls if you want to as well. Me being homeless and climbing out debunks all your stupid whatabout-ism comments. Sure its fucking hard and overwhelming when you’re in poverty, and getting an ID should be easier, id agree to that, but without an ID its impossible to live. So getting one is an ABSOLUTELY PRIORITY.

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Anonymous #29 1w

so you admit the anger is senseless and unnecessary LMAO maybe you’ll end up back in a spot one day where you need help and everyone will tell you good riddance.

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Anonymous #29 1w

Now I know you’re brain dead and don’t think about other situations because there are a ton of homeless people with cars dude holy shit not everyone is you. You also can’t read because I’m specifically talking about how these people DESERVE help, NOT that they’re helpless

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Anonymous #39 1w

Its only unnecessary because I should be ignoring your dumb take and getting back to work. Im only here because arguing with you sparked something in me saying all the lazy fucks should just be given everything when they cant obtain an ID like I did with absolutely fuck all. You’re helping these people? great. I never received any help and still got it. Why cant they do the same?

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Anonymous #39 1w

These homeless people have CARS? Can they DRIVE THEM? They must have a fucking DRIVERS LICENSE!! thats an ID you big dumb idiot. What do those people have to do with our conversation?

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Anonymous #29 1w

Soo you’re the one calling people lazy fucks so that must be what you thought about yourself when you were in that spot. You don’t wish you had help when you were in that spot? “I suffered so they have to too” ? That’s the way you want to think about this? If you had received help, do you think you’d be in a better spot now, at least mentally? Knowing that other people care and are there for you?

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Anonymous #39 1w

I never said that? Yeah I wish I got help. I didnt get any. My point was that I still got my ID, got myself a job, and worked myself out of poverty. You know like basically surviving? You dont know my situation. Im not saying they should suffer? Quit twisting my words. My point has been the same the whole fucking time. The only real hindrance to these people are the drug addicts. Sad but thats reality. Otherwise, lazy.

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Anonymous #29 1w

“No sympathy or empathy for stupid people” “if you don’t get yourself an ID then you deserve to be stuck in poverty” these are your words saying they deserve to suffer. You sound like you’re the one who didn’t deserve any help (including homeless shelters) when you’re not willing to pay it forward. “I care about myself bc fuck you that’s why” real eloquent bro

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Anonymous #39 1w

this doesnt really help your point. Those are just heartless things I said. I admit it’s pretty harsh but thats just my opinion bro. in my opinion they deserve poverty. Still doesn’t Change anything. Make statements against my character, doesnt make me any less right about reality. Life is unfair. Suck my balls.

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Anonymous #29 1w

life is unfair, which is why we should work together to make it easier for everyone. Not everyone was born within walking distance to a license office. Not everyone has the money to purchase an ID. Life is SO unfair for SO many people, so let’s all try to chip in and help fix that problem. That starts with our words and our character.

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Anonymous #39 1w

save me the tears. At most it costs 30-50 dollars. this isnt a john lennon ‘imagine’ reality. you officially lost the plot 🤣 keep dreaming of that utopia. life is only getting more unfair and cut throat. Getting an ID should be a priority if you plan on climbing out of poverty. “lets all chip in” how about lets all grow a brain and a pair. people like you make me laugh.

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Anonymous #29 1w

you say all this yet I’m the one currently getting higher education, doing research focused on bettering peoples everyday lives, and volunteering my time and resources to help others. Life is only getting more unfair and cutthroat because people like YOU who want it to be that way. Empathy and compassion is a choice that anyone can make. Once more people do, life becomes easier. keep living for yourself if you want, just know you’re part of the problem.

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Anonymous #39 1w

Amen. Us republicans need to stand together

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Anonymous #8 1w

that’s funny, but I did say we need to have empathy and compassion which you know republicans don’t have (before you start spewing stuff about libs I think there’s problems with both parties)

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Anonymous #39 1w

What are you talking about? Empathy and compassion was your comment. Unfortunately the Democratic Party does not have that.

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Anonymous #8 1w

I was never talking about parties til you brought it up you’re having a conversation with yourself here. Did you even read my last comment?

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Anonymous #34 1w

There was literally an illegal immigrant arrested by ice who a registered voter in Maryland

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Anonymous #29 1w

I have epilepsy which means I don't have an ID. Does that make me lose legal rights that everyone should be born with?? I don't think so its not my fault I was just born that way...

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Anonymous #47 1w

You having epilepsy shouldn’t bar you from getting an ID?? Tf you on about. I know plenty of people who are also suffering from epilepsy, they have an ID and vote. You make no sense. You should not be able to vote simply because of the sheer stupidity of that comment..

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Anonymous #47 1w

This is honestly the dumbest straw-man argument ive ever read

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Anonymous #48 1w

Ur silly man

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Anonymous #41 1w

Voter ID laws are one of those things that don’t sound objectionable in principle, but every time they’ve gotten passed lately, the state immediately shut down a bunch of DMVs in majority-minority neighborhoods, which is why people think of it as a racially motivated disenfranchisement tactic. Voter ID would be fine if Republicans hadn’t already shown us how they can and will abuse it.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 1w

“You should have to bring your ID to vote” doesn’t sound crazy on its face. It doesn’t seem like anything crazy, but that’s exactly what a good Trojan Horse is. In 2018, Georgia had a hotly contested governor’s race between Brian Kemp, the current governor, and a Black progressive Democrat. Months before the election they passed a voter ID law, and then they shut down hundreds of DMVs, almost all of which were in Black neighborhoods. So you can blame them for everyone thinking Voter ID is racism

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Anonymous #39 1w

Right. I was just stating a fact. You seem to be upset. Having a conversation with you!

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 1w

Voter ID on its own would not be inherently racist, but voter ID laws have been used and abused by racists to disenfranchise minorities in sneaky ways. Which is why liberals are now reflexively against them.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 1w

They are also against them because they realize theyd lose a lot of illegal votes and ballot harvesting votes in favor of democrats

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Anonymous #29 1w

Nah it’s literally just because of the stunts that Republicans have pulled at the state level with passing voter ID laws and then purposely making it harder for some people to get an ID, mostly Black Americans by strategically closing DMVs in Black areas right after passing the laws, not even immigrant communities.

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Anonymous #29 1w

If Republicans hadn’t used voter ID laws to discriminate in the past, we likely wouldn’t even have a problem with it. But then states passed voter ID and immediately made it harder for Black people specifically to get one, Republicans ruined that shit for themselves.

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Anonymous #29 1w

As soon as you take a facially neutral statute and use it in a clearly discriminatory manner, then it ceases to be a neutral statute.

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Anonymous #3 1w

Illegally get representation

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 1w

Right because minorities don’t get government benefits, drive a car, hold a job or do anything anything at all that would require ID

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Anonymous #24 1w

It's a prop thats's only until 2030. Usually the maps last 10 years. This is to oppose Texas who drew their maps early, i.e 5 yrs instead, to clearly get some advantage in elections. And Texas didnt put any temporary time limit on their redistricting maps

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Anonymous zkami 1w

Look man, we all watched the Republican voter ID strategy at work in Georgia in 2018. Nobody would be against Voter ID laws if Georgia Republicans hadn’t been like “see guys this is a completely neutral requirement” and then immediately shut down damn near every DMV in a Black neighborhood. Voter ID isn’t racist, but Georgia Republicans are, and they used Voter ID as a tool towards their racist goals. Which then calls into question why all Republicans are seemingly so insistent about it.

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Anonymous zkami 1w

Especially when you know what the “Southern Strategy” is and what that entails.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 1w

So essentially. Despite minorities mostly having ID, because they take flights, drive cars, have jobs and or get government benefits. It’s your position that a state with a governmental demographic of about 40% minorities Is somehow trying to prevent minorities from voting (based on something that happened 7 years ago) by requiring something most minorities already have for the aforementioned reasons. right…definitely not a stupid take at all

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Anonymous zkami 1w

I mean, I’m not saying it’s a particularly smart strategy for the Republicans, but that is in fact their goal. It’s why they challenge the Voting Rights Act of 1964 in court so often. These old ass white people in the Southern Republican statehouses? Their daddies were segregationists, they were the high schoolers spitting on Black students after Brown v. Board. That shit didn’t just go away.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 1w

Right right. The state where their government has only gotten more diverse over time (and continues to since 2018) is definitely gonna prevent people from voting by requiring a document that most people already have … that can be renewed online. You make a strong case

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Anonymous zkami 1w

A lot of the more egregious actions the state of Georgia took in 2018 got struck down due to their obvious discriminatory nature under the VRA of 1964. Which means they’re no longer in effect. Which is exactly why Republicans take the VRA to the Supreme Court every time they get a new justice up there, hoping that they’ll finally completely defang it. I’m really sorry if this is your first time learning that Republicans don’t like Black people voting. They haven’t since 1964.

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Anonymous zkami 1w

Your argument would be valid if I didn’t know anything about the political history of the United States from 1960 until now. But unfortunately for you I do know my history, and the Republican Party post-1964 is not beating the racism allegations.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 1w

Yes I’m sure the Republican Party in the 1960’s is the exact same Republican Party in the big 2025 But regardless your position is essentially we shouldn’t make sure people who are voting are who they say they are Bc you don’t think minorities have IDs for some reason. Which would also mean you don’t think they have jobs, drive cars, take flights or get government benefits which is ridiculous. Especially when during the mass deportations we’ve seen illegal migrants be registered voters

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Anonymous #33 1w

he’s actually sexy asf

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Anonymous zkami 1w

Nobody has shown any actual evidence that they’ve found illegal migrants voting, the administration has made that claim repeatedly, but forgive me for not believing the words of known liars at face value. Also, the 1960s weren’t that long ago, and the maps look exactly the same as they have since the 1960s for a reason. The Southern Strategy exists, like it or not. We have the tapes of Republican strategists talking about how racism is their strategy in the South, that’s what made the South red.

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Anonymous zkami 1w

+ you named your profile after a groomer

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Anonymous #47 1w

You are either misinformed or lying. Epilepsy disqualifies you from driving. You can still get a non-drivers license identification card that serves the same purpose, minus the driving privilege.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 1w

There is evidence of illegal migrants voting. “Ian Andre Roberts” is one of them who recieved an absentee ballot in the 2020 election and remained a registered voter in the state of Maryland. Info was pulled by an open record request from Prince George’s County. So stick your head in the sand all you want and no my account is not named after a groomer

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Anonymous zkami 1w

I live in MD and can confirm the poll workers look at you weird if you pull out ID at the ballot. Its like they want fraud to happen 🥸

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 1w

It’s also hilarious you continue trying to make the claim that requiring voter ID is somehow racist or leads to racist preventing minorities from voting when your example state has experienced nothing of the sort. and you have yet to prove why minorities would already have IDs lmao

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Anonymous #52 1w

You can be an epileptic with a driver’s license, you just gotta take your meds fr and there will be a mark on your driver’s license that says you have to take your meds, and if you get pulled over the cop might ask you if you’ve taken your meds. But they can drive.

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Anonymous #29 1w

Notably in the open request request PG County redacted the citizenship status of Ian Andre Roberts despite him being registered to vote for years …

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 1w

wouldn’t ***

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Anonymous zkami 1w

PG county is a meme here

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Anonymous #29 6d

I will say 20 to 25 million US citizens don’t have an ID so that certainly affects a huge part of the population lol— also in states that have been audited the number of undocumented immigrants voting in federal elections is usually so unbelievably minuscule… I think in Michigan it was 15 and another state it was 9. Nothing to be worried about… just fear mongering from people like you

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Anonymous #39 6d

An id cost 30 dollars and you need it don’t pull this out I’m losing brain cells

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Anonymous #56 6d

I read an interview earlier with a woman who lost her unborn baby because she couldn’t afford a $30 medication that would have saved the child’s life. What seems like so little to you can be a barrier for someone else. Empathy is free.

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Anonymous #39 6d

You can make 30 in like 2 hours. She could’ve afforded it she was just lazy

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Anonymous #43 6d

Any adult can claim to be a guardian of any kid. Look into it

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Anonymous #29 6d

This was a sad thread to read. You’re the tit for tat type of person huh? The “well I struggled so they have to as well” mentality is wild. You do realize a mentally healthy person would understand their struggles and wish things easier on others? What a sad and bitter way you’ve chosen to live.

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Anonymous #58 6d

I never said that asshole if you actually read the whole thread someone said exactly what you said and I replied. Go fuck your self.

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Anonymous zkami 6d

You can make 30 in 2 hours if you have a JOB which no one would give her because she was a pregnant teenage girl. Y’all are incapable of processing anything more than what is familiar to you and that is honestly so sad for you.

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Anonymous #39 6d

You could just do DoorDash. also why are you getting pregnant as a teenager with no money

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Anonymous zkami 6d

Just must be like 13 because I can’t come up with another reason someone would be so dense

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Anonymous #58 6d

Nah he has a point u just have no sense of accountability

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Anonymous #56 6d

Says the people who are probably pro life with no exceptions who would tell said teenage girl “don’t get an abortion” and then shame her for needing help when the child is born. No. It’s not a lack of accountability. It’s people just like you who have dots but they don’t fucking connect, and when other people try to help you connect the dots you tell them to fuck off because you’d rather protect your sense of pride than be educated.

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Anonymous zkami 6d

Your take is ill informed. 20-25 million American CITIZENS in this country don’t have a government ID and it IS a higher proportion of minorities compared to the general American demographic… ALSO when they have audited states for federal elections it is proven that undocumented immigrants HARDLY EVER vote illegally. I think in Michigan in the last election there were 15 undocumented immigrants who voted and another state it was 9. Obviously has no impact and a VERY DISENGENUOUS argument!

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Anonymous #53 6d

The number should be 0 btw

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Anonymous #59 6d

Do you think you beat people that are fighting dirty by playing clean?

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 6d

It’d be fine if California wasn’t claiming moral superiority every chance they get.

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Anonymous #59 6d

They literally do still have the moral high ground, since they only adopted this policy in response to Texan fuckery. Just like it’s wrong to punch someone in the face for no reason, but it’s not wrong to hit someone back after they’ve hit you.

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Anonymous #59 5d

If one party wants to completely abandon the norms and rules of the playing field, then it’s not somehow wrong for the other party to say “alright, we’ll play by your new rules, but you’re not gonna like how it works out.” Republicans have been smashing the norms of our system for like 40 years now, and today, only Democrats get hit with this “b-b-but what about the RULES AND NORMS?” bullshit.

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Anonymous #39 5d

If you can get out to vote you can get an id.

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Anonymous #53 5d

So less than 10% of the population

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Anonymous zkami 5d

The girl was ASSAULTED BY HER UNCLE holy shit do you not understand just how many people have lived tragic lives and need help out of it? Are you that sheltered or do you just only think about yourself?

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Anonymous zkami 5d

“Just do DoorDash” that is so insanely privileged to say. So many places in America don’t even have GROCERY STORES much less DoorDash. Also DoorDash requires at least a bit of starting money to afford gas and a car. Also how do you do DoorDash and drive with no ID? Are you joking?

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Anonymous #39 5d

If shes illiterate why should she vote? Wouldn’t even understand the ballot

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Anonymous #39 5d

You are bringing up very heartbreaking situations and If someone is a victim of assault or so destitute they cannot get an ID, they need immediate, serious help from someone or social services. But using those specific and tragic cases to argue against a general security measure is NOT a good faith argument and I dont take you seriously. We shouldn't dismantle policy for the 99% based on outliers that represent a different, deeper problem…

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Anonymous #39 5d

If this is such a problem for those cases for “systemic acts” then why be here? Don’t complain of a countries rule and law and then complain about it being so hard when you are in the country, I promise you Russia, Japan, Germany has the same rules when becoming a citizen that’s how each country is legalized to do based on what the country does in there own. It is so simple, to justify the basics of emotional distrust because of “systemic boundaries” that’s newsflash America allows anyone.

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Anonymous #62 5d

In if they are legal, and it is simple as that. Once in and legal in the country, why try and support another country to take over the rights of this country? It does not make sense at all, like why? Right left up down idc what u are it’s basic knowledge. Get a grip.

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Anonymous #63 4d

I think getting the people’s permission to do something out of the ordinary through a referendum is actually the least corrupt shit you could do

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4d

redrawing districts to benefit your own party is corrupt actually and the fact that people defend it is insane

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Anonymous #63 4d

Like, you might be able to call it corrupt if they just redrew the maps without the ballot measure, like some states, but they were straight up like “are y’all cool with us redrawing the maps?” and took a vote on it, that’s more say than I’ve ever had in my state’s congressional districting

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Anonymous #63 4d

Okay, so if the Republican Party does it and gets a bunch of seats out of doing it, Democrats are just supposed to take that on the chin? Like, don’t get me wrong, in principle, I think political gerrymandering is wrong, just like it’s wrong to hit people. Unless they hit you first. Then it’s necessary.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4d

please point out where i said it was ok for republicans to do it, ill wait

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4d

hell, point out where i even hinted that its ok for republicans to do it

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Anonymous #63 4d

You didn’t have to say it, by acting like California is corrupt for doing it with the consent of their people, and not talking about what Texas is up to, there’s a clear bias on display. And you might not even like Republicans, you might think Republicans are evil, so you expect them to do bad things but don’t like to see your own party get in the mud. And I can understand that, I just don’t agree with it.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4d

i said it is corrupt for politicians to do this and directly criticized republicans in my original response. you are literally arguing against a fake point you created in your mind. i shouldnt need to specify that its bad when republicans do it when i literally said politicians. any politician that does this shit regardless of their party should be barred from running ever again and the entire gerrymandering shit needs to be redone to actually be fair instead of giving guaranteed seats

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Anonymous #63 4d

I agree with you on the principle of it, I just don’t think this is a practical thought

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4d

you need to start somewhere and condemning gerrymandering is a good place to begin. optimally you just abolish the two party system since its a mess of corrupt losers but thats unlikely to happen any time soon even if people start voting for more restrictions on politicians

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Anonymous #63 4d

Ultimately yes gerrymandering should be abolished. But changing the electoral map during a presidential term (as done in Texas) is just not fair, it’s like changing the rules of the game halfway through because you’re losing. The democrats losing those 4 seats in Texas would give the Republican Party a majority in the house, so California is doing the opposite and giving the Democrats an extra 4. It’s literally just to counteract Texas, the prop reads “in response to Texas…”

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Anonymous #9 4d

It also says “this is only until 2031”

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Anonymous #63 4d

It is quite literally impossible to abolish the two party system in a first-past-the-post voting system, best you’ll ever get is replacement of the parties with new parties a la the replacement of Whigs by the Republicans

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4d

And I do think that the Democratic Party, much like the Whigs prior to the Civil War, are deeply unprepared for the current historical moment and need to get replaced just like the Whigs did

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4d

In an ideal world absolutely!!! In the mean time… :( This is all we have

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Anonymous #9 4d

Well yeah, I vote Democrat the same way I would’ve voted Whig in 1845 lmao, like sure they’re ineffectual but until I have a better option I gotta vote for them over the actively awful party

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 4d

I hope you get the help you need. Sorry you want to kill others

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Anonymous #8 3d

Where did I mention killing anyone lmfao that’s crazy

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 3d

You said you vote democrat.. which means the same thing

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Anonymous #48 3d

Your president is on the Epstien list

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 3d

I pray you get help. I’m sorry you want to kill people

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Anonymous #8 3d

Y’all vote in people restricting access to SNAP and closing hospital doors and you want to play the morality card? Really?

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Anonymous #41 3d

Not sure what you’re talking about. EBT should be permanently disbanded though. But I will always vote based on saving lives. That is the only factor for me

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Anonymous #41 3d

#8 is a single issue voter and it’s abortion, they just don’t wanna say that with their chest or admit it’s about abortion, because even they know in their heart of hearts that abortion and murder are not the same thing

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 3d

I literally just said that dumbass. Abortion is murder. I just care about the lives of others

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 3d

its very possible to abolish the two party system but the issue is that the average voter has the intelligence of a cucumber and votes based on like one or two issues

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Anonymous #9 3d

its great then that its only until a certain date but this eye for an eye stuff is never going to work in the long run

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Anonymous #63 3d

In a first-past-the-post electoral system, it’s not. If you have ranked-choice voting and proportional representation, like European parliamentary systems, then you get effective multiparty governance.

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Anonymous #63 3d

A first-past-the-post presidential system will basically always boil down to two parties though, as a matter of political science, not even theory or policy. That’s just how that particular structure, which our government has, always goes.

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Anonymous #63 3d

Like, you could make a multiple choice question in Political Science 202: Intro to Comparative Politics: “What type of party structure will a democratic first-past-the-post electoral system have?” and the correct answer would be “A two party system” It is a trait that is nearly inherent to the structure.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 3d

just because its not as easy to implement doesnt mean its impossible lol. britain has the same system and they have had a growing presence of third parties in their house of commons for example. sure it doesnt matter much now since they dont have a large presence yet but it will impact their government heavily in the future

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Anonymous #63 2d

Britain has an entirely different culture, different style of government. You’re comparing apples to oranges.

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Anonymous #63 2d

Britain does not have a presidential system, and Britain is absolutely still a two-party dominant system anyways

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Anonymous #63 2d

first-past-the-post just does that because it encourages strategic voting instead of strictly ideological voting

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Anonymous #63 2d

Britain’s “multi-party” system comes from a few places: A) Nation specific parties in the countries other than England (SNP, Sinn Fein, DUP, Plaid Cymru) B) Lib Dems (never getting a majority, basically just Third Way Labour but more upper-middle class focused) C) Tiny ideological fringe parties (Greens, Reform UK) The Greens are probably better than the Labour Party as it currently stands, but if you vote Green then the Tories win so you gotta vote Labour anyways. Two-party dominance.

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Anonymous #29 2d

our cultures are pretty similar actually since we are literally descendants of the british lol. also the house of commons is pretty similar to the house of representatives. if anything im comparing a green apple to a red apple

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 2d

except their two party system is slowly changing which is my point. its completely possible to achieve that here but people would rather vote for the red pedophiles or the blue pedophiles instead

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