
Iâm a Republican, but hereâs the thing â I might not agree with everything about the gay movement, and thatâs okay. Itâs not my life. People should do what makes them happy as long as theyâre not hurting anyone. There are way bigger problems in the world right now, yet weâre all too busy judging each other over political views. Instead of arguing about whoâs right or âbrainwashed,â maybe we should start focusing on what actually matters and work together to fix it.
That I canât marry who I love. I just think we need to mind our own business that also means that if I want to own 5 guns and live in the suburbs then fucking let me. I donât understand why we all of a sudden care about what people do with their lives like itâs none of your business.
An abortion is one of the worst things a person can choose to do. Itâs a hard a difficult decision. That being said I still view it as murder a human thatâs why PERSONALLY I would never do it however I have no choice if another woman wants to do that. If someone what to have 48 piercings and dye their hair purple I have no right to tell her not to. This also applies for gay marriage I am not gay so I personally would never need to exercise that right but if I were I would be pissed
As a woman, I cannot imagine getting pregnant, regardless of the circumstances, and killing my child. Life is a miracle and to deliberately end it for any reason should be a crime. Fine, argue itâs a clump of cells, as are we, am I allowed to kill you because I donât like how you were conceived? No, thats called murder. Fine, argue we should be allowed to have casual sex, if you can give me the stats on contraception then you know how likely you were to get pregnant. Morals extend to babies yk
For all of the pro abortionists please answer this one hypothetical question: do you consider it to be murder if the mother wanted to have a baby and the so called âclump of celllsâ was shot by an ak47 through her stomach unconsentually, I believe it is in much the same way that you are ending the life of a future baby. My point being if you consider that scenario is murdering the fetus, then you have to conclude that any other scenario ending life of the âclump of cellsâ to be murder as well.
đ„In the most loving and respectful way, Marriage is supposed to represent Christ (jesus) and the church. Marriage is sacred and this generation has lost the true meaning and beauty of marriage. Gay marriage isnât real marriage Itâs not all sunshine and rainbows, it is about sacrifice and effort. True love is what you are willing to sacrifice for someone. Iâm open for discussionđ
Okay sure but restricting a womenâs choice IS controlling her body. She should be allowed to do whatever she wants. Being pro CHOICE doesnât mean all women have to get an abortion; it should be up to them if they want to go through it or not. Plus abortion can be life saving in some scenarios.
If a pregnant woman gets into a car accident and died with the fetus the other driver will be charged with a double homicide should the abortion laws reflect this other law or should the other law not exist, like looking at it from the perspective that in either situation the fetus dies but in only one situation one person is charged with the death, does that change how you think of it or change how the laws should be?
By not being able to feed them? Itâs that they canât afford them or probably canât even afford the pregnancy and birth, lots of people donât have insurance and even birth with insurance when youâre living paycheck to paycheck is too much. Then you have to stop working or pay a full income for childcare plus so so much money for everything that child will need
The majority of abortions are literally from the pill. So should plan b also be denied access and federally banned for those who need it? One law shouldnât dictate another when the situation is completely different. One is a medically made decision for several reasons and the other is intentional. If someone cuts the cord on a family member who is brain dead, should that be called murder?
ButâŠwith that, even if a woman gets an abortion, there is still forgiveness through Jesus Christ. It wonât bring the baby back to life but the mom can have a new life in Christ. That goes for us all. We all walk around with so much shame and pain and He take that from us and give us new life, but you have to allow Him to. Turn to Him, admit youâve been living a life without Him in the center, ask and accept His forgiveness. You were intentionally created, you are loved my friend so much.
Are any of you women? Have any of you ever talked to women? No. Idk why it matters to you that much when literally none of you could care any less about what happens to the child or their quality of life or the motherâs quality of life after birth. Once theyâre born you stop giving a shit. Thatâs why when children are murdered during school shootings you talk about how itâs a price to pay for guns.. yet you mourned a dipshit murdered by flying too close to the sun for unfortunate circumstances
Have you ever watched a birth? Theyâre not exactly the most glamorous miracles but the result is nothing shy of one. Let people live their lives and be free to make their own decisions without their government denying them access to something that can greatly improve their life
They love murder when it deals with people in another country. They love murder when itâs reinforced by starving children and orphaning them due to war. They hate âmurderâ when it deals with someone that hasnât been born and is not always able to be cared for. They hate âmurderâ when itâs someone who preaches about guns but are not against school shooters killing dozens of children. They are not against murder it when college students get lynched in 2025 for being black
Except itâs literally not. To define something as living it has to meet 7 different criteria which it does. So biology already recognizes it as a living thing. Also going off your logic, I guess a 2 year old baby isnât living because a 2 year old isnât capable of taking care of themselves and would die within a week if not taken care of by someone else.
yeah everyone should have the right to an abortion even if they were being irresponsible. i don't think an irresponsible 16 year old should have to carry a fetus for 9 months, give birth, then raise it. even if someone adopts that child, they still shouldn't have to carry it and give birth just because they were irresponsible. and even if i did, i would still want abortion to be legal for everyone anyway because how are you supposed to know what reason the abortion is being done.
birth control fails, and people grow up in uneducated homes. and sure even after that there are people who choose to be unsafe and sadly it does take a pregnancy test to be the wake up call they need. teenagers are immature, they are GOING to be dumb. that doesnât mean a 16 year old girl and boy should be forced to bring a new life into the world that they know they canât support. According to the CDC 92.8% of reported abortions are done at or less than the first 13 weeks.
They donât care about kids they only care about perpetuating a narrative that makes them feel like theyâre a good person with morals when they couldnât be further from it. If a kid was born and prone to disease theyâd rather it be born and die than be aborted and preventing heartbreak and loss that comes with losing an infant.
to add on to my last reply, according to the Charlotte Lozier Institute, the fetus doesnât feel plain until 15 weeks into pregnancy, though some only as early as 12 weeks. therefore an overwhelming majority of abortions do not harm the fetus. and all those abortions that come after 13 weeks? well there are millions of reasons why. The Cleveland clinic says 1 in 475 pregnancies go unnoticed by the mother until 20 weeks. are they to blame?
I think you should go have a kid and see how it goes at this point in your life. Doesnât matter if youâre not ready, it can happen at any time right? Consequential to our actions and precautions right? Pregnancy and childbirth or care are all punishments for having sex right?
Like saying itâs murder is so unbelievably pointless bc I know you donât care what happens after birth. I know you donât care about murder when itâs not personal to you. I know you do not care about murder when itâs our military or citizens who die from guns. I know you donât care about murder unless it perpetuates this narrative and you are disgusted by teen/young adult pregnancies so why live in a world where the choice is made for everyone because thatâs what you want?
While I believe that a pregnant woman IS holding life inside her, I (personally) feel that the value of a life that has yet to take a breath or experience the world has the same value as a sperm cell. Many Republicans and Democrats feel differently, but I think itâs silly to place value on something that has yet to live while simultaneously stomping on the rights of people who are already alive. I think abortion would be a better made discussion if the people alive werenât suffering so often.
Thatâs like saying if you support life in any aspect then you support terrorism and mass destruction because thereâs a possibility of that person turning a tyrant. I can provide an example thatâs flat out wrong, thatâs like saying if I were to support transgender idk then Iâm supporting mass shooting, a one in a million coincidence of correlation has nothing to do with murder youâre just talking out of your ass.
They are moral- whatâs immoral is advocating to hurt and ruin human lives because of your own prejudice, but simultaneously force them to give birth so they can enter a world where you will abuse them. Make up your mind, because there are more white criminals in the US than illegals. Notice that ICE is busy rounding up homeowners and people who work in our economy, NOT the cartels which are easily located. Fuck off with that âIâm moralâ but commit every immoral act possible bullshit.
Read the Bible. Letâs see whatâs immoral and what isnât. âI love supporting killing kidsâ âbreak the law⊠only if it betters yourself. Liberals always tend to care about people that they have never met over their close relationships because they donât have any that matter.
They donât care about being good people, they care about LOOKING like good people. Hence the massive need to focus on a life that isnât born, while cutting cancer research and rounding up the browns because suddenly life isnât important and sacred. Wait til you hear their stance on the homeless and bombing innocent civilians.
Those issues are well overblown by the media you consume. Itâs as much a crime to cross the border as it is to j walk. They call these misdemeanors! Hope this helps! No one wants to do it the hard way because it takes way too long. We need to progress towards a system where people are able to get a pathway to citizenship without such a long wait. You just love to perpetuate a false narrative huh?
You canât be fr. Psalm 139:13-16, where the psalmist says, "For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb". Other verses like Jeremiah 1:5 ("Before I was born the Lord called me" much more evidence for life begins at conception than whatever you are trying to say.
Thereâs this thing called progression, and without it you wouldâve died to the black plague. Lawmakers and society realized how ignorant it was to base the future off of the past, especially one that couldnât even fathom the idea of cars. Unfortunately youâre too far gone for humanity, but itâs okay. You can still live away from everyone and maintain your faith.
Werenât you talking about morality a moment ago? Are you completely unaware that the 1% makes their money by being parasites and abusing the people who work under them- undercutting their pay and overclocking their hours so that the biggest earner is whoeverâs at the top (by a ridiculous margin)? Which is it? Do you care about morality and god? Or do you care about yourself? What does God say about greed? Furthermore- what color is your Bugatti?
At the end of the day, all learning about the Bible taught me is that God is either all powerful and not all good, or all good and not all powerful. He cannot be both. Saying God âalways has a planâ is just a way to trick stupid people into having a hardcore belief in something that has zero substance, logic, or explanation other than âit is because it isâ.
this and he's supposed to be all knowing, so he should know everything that's going to happen, and since he's all good and all powerful, then he should be able to stop those things from happening. but since these bad things still happen, then god either doesn't exist or isn't who he is described as.
Just shut the fuck up. Literally shut the fuck up. Youâre so dumb, youâre delusional disgusting contemptuous hypocritical dishonest contemptible neurotic with things you donât even fully understand. Youâre fed media of lies and you eat it up like youâre a pig eating slop. They have conditioned you to think the way you do and think that you came to these conclusions because you are a âgood personâ with âmoralsâ shut the fuck up. You hate more people than you love, yet you talk about your religion
Mary wasnât given a child from god.. she was raped by a Roman soldier and gave birth to a hippy that formed his own speculations about the Jewish faith he followed and had contradicting beliefs with. Gained a following for marching to the beat of his own drum because he was very gifted and then went crazy before death. You act like you know shit but you know a very closeted belief because you cannot think for yourself for the life of you
these are all some of the best worded arguments for pro choice ever (why do we even need to argue for equal human rights and government not controlling our healthcare) itâs not even pro-life and pro-choice bc the majority of MAGA people wanting âpro lifeâ are also pro death penalty and against any child support or health care after itâs born. nobody is pro-abortion bc nobody WANTS to get an abortion, but if youâre against it youâre anti-choice (anti women having control over their bodies)
You realize the majority of abortions happen by people who used birth control, correct? Those birth control methods fail and are not 100% effective, that also includes emergency contraception as well. You also realize that criminalizing abortion makes it so those women who you say are an exception canât get care either, correct? Abortion is an umbrella term for a pregnancy ending, be it voluntary or not. If you arenât aware of that you are not educated enough about what abortion is to be talking
I understand your frustration bro, but exploding on them does nothing except make them close their ears even more. You gotta slowly feed them information like theyâre a child, so they can act off of knowledge instead of throwing tantrums over feelings. Itâs unfortunate, but you know the old adage about leading a horse to water.
creds to the republicans that are FINALLY starting to realize how fucked up in the head trump and his followers are, YES theyâre part of the problem and the people that voted for him are part of the problem but also the only way weâll never get that administration out is if enough previous trump supporters changed their mind and wake up to the issue, so letâs stop yelling at them for their past and be all in support of them changing their minds now
her keeping me led to her staying in an abusive relationship for an additional 7 years that she was trying to leave. she shouldâve just left instead of having and raising a child in a toxic environment. yâall donât know why ppl have abortions and quite frankly itâs none of your business why. itâs not your body. if you donât want one then great for you, but mind your cooch and let other women do whatâs best for them. like other commenters said no one WANTS to have an abortion but sometimes (1/2)
Let me ask you this. As you know, God created Adam and Eve and they were married. What happens to the world if everyone suddenly gets in a same sex relationship. No more babies, worlds over right there, why? Because thatâs not the way God designed us to live. Most of the time God gives us laws and tells us how to live to protect us
The claim âmost Republicans also donât like trumpâ is false. His approval among Republicans is steady around 90% (See Gallup). You as a Republican might think âmostâ Republicans donât support Trump because you yourself donât support him and we often surround ourselves with people who think the same as us (echo chambers!). In other words, the Republicans you know and talk to might not support him (not representative of most Republicans).
Thatâs completely true. All republicans have run on over the past 10 years is fear mongering over gay and trans people. One of Trumpâs ads literally said âKamala is for they/them, Trump is for youâ. Thatâs literally the only thing you guys bitch about. The first thing Trump did in office was attack trans peopleâs rights. All republicans talk about is gay and trans people. You guys threw a massive fit over Bud Light advertising with a trans person
In the most loving and respectful way, marriage was originally invented as means of securing women to menâs financial control, and the Bible was written and rewritten over the course of history by misogynistic white men to perpetuate this sort of domineering rhetoric. Want to control women? Brainwash them to filth and convince them theyâll go to hell if they donât abide. If youâve been tricked by the Bible too, congratulations, you been bamboozled to fulfill someone elseâs fantasies
I hate when religious Republicans fake politeness and tolerance because they think itâll earn them brownie points with Godđ being born gay doesnât make it a movement, and stating you âdisagreeâ with the existence of people who are simply born different than you comes off as disgustingly privileged and self-appointed âholier than thouâ
If youâre not, congrats. But thereâs still plenty who DO have that exact mindset, itâs called soft homophobia and itâs ugly. You, on the other hand, still clearly must have quite the ego to get on this app and spout crap about âdisagreeingâ when the only âmovementâ LGBT are fighting for is the right to be left alone. You get the privilege of wondering what you should eat for dinner that night. LGBT get the privilege get the privilege of wondering if the gov will rule to chemically castrate them
I donât agree with growing up poor but I still think poor people should have the right to live how they choose (thatâs how dumb you sound). Chemical castration, electroshock therapy, and lobotomy were all standard practice in efforts to âcorrectâ the LGBT in America for centuries. It was thanks to things like Pride that itâs not still in practice today. Many queer Americans are still killed in hate crimes in present day (like King of the Hill actor Jonathan Joss)
The audacity, as a non-queer person, telling a queer person they should be âhappyâ for living in America because they would be killed elsewhere is so abusive and tone-deaf. Itâs giving abusive ex who tells you no one else will love you as they actively beat you. Iâm out of here.
But youâre framing it as whoâs right and whoâs wrong gay people arenât arguing whoâs right whoâs wrong theyâre arguing they have a right to exist. Theyâre not saying itâs wrong to be straight. Same with abortion itâs not an argument of itâs wrong or right to do. Itâs an argument of you should have the choice to make your own decision.
Like homosexuality isnât something you agree with itâs not a question or debate thatâs like saying you agree with the sky or the sun or you agree that a rock is solid. You can decide for yourself that youâre not homosexual. But thatâs not disagreeing or agreeing with anything. The only thing you could disagree with is if they should marry and things like rights and liberties.
Then also being gay looks different, depending on where youâre at like in the US. You can be legally protected officially but locally you might not really have protection. Sometimes you need protection from the people who are there that are supposed to protect you. Sometimes you are get out of your home sometimes youâre forced to go to conversion camps. Sometimes you are assaulted by your parents and loved ones.
So yeah, gay people are fighting to exist in Muslim culture some muscle majority countries do have legal protections for queer individuals or the country has a more neutral stance but 100% that it is very hard to exist as God intended you to be in muslim culture if you are queer. However, they are still there fighting for their life and visibility and since you respect an honor everyone, it is interesting that you have chosen to ignore their existence and presence
But gay isnât something you believe in. We ainât Santa or the Easter bunny. I understand that in your culture gay people donât have a lot of viability and i understand that your teachings donât condone homosexuality. I grew up very religious so i understand to a degree what that is like. But I also understand that i have a personal relationship with my creator and they created me as I am they made me gay an all the other things I am. And I am no less than anything else In creation.
It is beautiful that you have your culture and faith and by no means should you shed that. And itâs beautiful that you respect people even if they are not in line with your teachings. We need more people like that. But I want to say one more time gay is not something you believe in or agree with it just is something that some people are and those people are everywhere and they are as beautiful and flawed as any other person.
I think what youâre trying to describe is in your culture itâs not seen as an acceptable way of being/life that In your culture if you are gay it is seen as something you should try to fix or suppress or not act on. And while I do recognize that may be part of your culture and that many Gay Muslims have to do that in order to survive I do not agree that they should have to do that. But i understand that itâs not an easy conversation to have or to fix
This is completely wrong. Youâve been hurt it sounds like. Do your research, the Bible is the most scientifically proven historical artifact in history! Did Some people used marriage in that evil way yes. But God in his perfect nature created marriage for Man and Woman. Marriage represents the Church and Christ joining together. Please do actual research before spewing out nonsense that you just saw somewhere. Donât believe everything you see but do your own research
Way to completely misread the comment and put words in my mouth. âIf you canât be a good person without religionâŠâ. What I said was that if you are entirely incapable of being good without the religion, then you are not good, you are just scared of eternal punishment. Never did I claim religious people werenât good people. Try reading again.
#39 Not really discussing the topic because itâs too much rage, just your specific analogy Backing out of donating a kidney would be more akin to using contraception (plan B) than abortion. Abortion would be more like ripping the kidney back out during the transplant - and that would probably be murder. Fwiw, I donât believe a fetus is alive within the first trimester, but I donât believe itâs a clump of cells either.
as a health science major no way u compared a clump of CELLS to an actual baby that has FULLY formed organs, nervous system, respiratory system, etc. theyâre so obviously completely different yall say pro life but u donât do shit for all the babies that are actually breathing
Which why do they need basic human rights while they are inside the womb w 0 consciousness, not even exactly a human yet, they are literally a parasite feeding onto the woman (or an extension of the womanâs body, however makes more sense to u)until they are fully grown into a human in which the woman then births them, why would they need basic rights while in the womb, thatâs for after, they canât even become a citizen here w/o being outside the womb so why do they need rights while in the womb
From another science major, humans (outside the womb) are classified as multicellular organisms (a human) as we have self regulating functioning organ systems, something fetuses donât making them an actual clump of cells further differentiating the difference between human and fetus, so instead of making a comment on someoneâs education and making opinions without knowing the facts, further educate urself first
Not to mention that they canât process stimuli such as being aborted medically which if people have access to and is affordable and made available, literally no one would get a surgical abortion which is also more invasive for a mother than something that hasnât even been born yet. Also all done way before these conservatives think it is. They just want to control everything by giving others less. Less access, less control, less power
an embryo is not a baby.. itâs literally a clump of cells in the process of development that is not at all a baby/human! please educate yourself about abortions and stages of pregnancy before commenting and making comments about abortions!!! itâs a womenâs body, nobody besides HER should control what she does with HER OWN body.
Sounds like you drank the kool-aid. Authoritarians needed a way to control people, and wrapping up imaginary rules in a neat little package called the Bible is exactly how they decided to do it. Itâs so much easier to convince people to do things they donât want to do if you scare them with âyouâre going to hellâ threats. Over centuries, the Bible was tailored purposefully to keep gay people, women, and just general minorities in next the foot of people who think life is about suffering
You got a C in high school bio. I took AP bio and got an A. Also yes life starts developing. Is a baby a toddler before it reaches that level of development? No. Is a teenager an adult before they go through puberty and reach that level of physical maturity? No. So why do you consider a zygote and fetus that are not born to be of the same value? A fetus is not a baby nor is anything before it or after until birth. Then it is alive. Then it forms memories, then it gains consciousness.
some people get pregnant by their family members from sexual assault itâs not always just you accidently get pregnant from a man you had a one night stand with or a boyfriend it could be anything and also YOU DONT NEED TO GET AN ABORTION NO ONES FORCING YOU. should not mean other people are ripped from the opportunity to you close minded idiot
Also isnât Ketanji Brown Jackson the one who ruled that the Trump Administration didnât have to fund SNAP benefits during the shutdown or something. Even though somehow eventually they ended up having to fund them. But I think that might have been bc a bill was passed by congress
Well okeyyyy since you asked:))) society structured around the nuclear marriage format is inherently financially discriminatory not only to many sexual orientations, but also widows, divorcees, and single young adults. Government is supposed to be secular (meaning separation of church and state) but a flaw in the system allows the government to controls peopleâs marital rights, and by extension control their abilities to do things like buy homes
Religious groups keep pushing this idea that society NEEDS to produce more babies, which is self-destructive because the world is experiencing an overpopulation crisis where we donât have enough resources to keep up with the influx of new people, and our waste is piling up without anywhere to put it (just look up trash piles in Ghana)
And I personally am not religious, but itâs been hypothesized by many great theorists that gay, bi, pan, and asexual people were all created by God or Mother Nature to create a healthy balance in the human population, because they add additional facets of caregiving that childbirthers do not. Such as a willingness to adopt (which, btw, again with overpopulation, there are MILLIONS of children who need loving homes)
Oh? Did you hear that from your lord and savior Elon Musk? People often cite population collapse as justification to hate gay people when their âbut the sky man told me soâ argument doesnât hold up. Your religionâs made-up rules donât mean shit to people who donât practice your religion. P.s. gay isnât a lifestyle, stop calling it that because it makes you sound stupid
Are you part of the same party thatâs pro-life? Because if adoption isnât the same thing then should those kids be left with unfit parents? I mean youâre probably all for gun violence as well right? Biology also states that being gay is normal, Iâm sorry youâre a piece of shit but if you want to go based off of science then thereâs gay animals just like thereâs gay people. Get over yourself itâs 2025 if you canât stand a gay person then stay inside or go somewhere and isolate yourself.
Since when were animals the standard for human interaction and relationships lmao. Maybe for u⊠you canât be gay you can just do gay things. No kid should have unfit parents but life isnât fair its time u learned that bub. gay parents will never beat good biological parents. I donât hate gay people I just think they are living a lie.
Humans ARE animals you dumb fuck đ€Š comparing animal response is how weâve developed medical knowledge for centuries. And gay means âexperiences attraction to the same gender,â it doesnât have anything to do with action or behavior. Thereâs gay people who like sex, then thereâs gay people who arenât interested in sex at all
Makes most people not want to interact with you or engage at all. Which I donât think I have to explain, is not good for you either bc then you donât learn anything and get stuck in your echo chamber thinking youâre right when youâre really just so unpleasant and insufferable that nobody wants to spend longer than 1 back and forth around you explaining to you why youâre a douchebag that needs to fix your attitude
Shroud of Turin, probably the most well documented person in the entirety of the ancient world. âJesus isnât (wasnât) realâ is a bit hilarious. You literally couldnât ask for better scientific and historical documentation about a person who lived 2 millennium ago. Whether he was actually the son of God and whether the resurrection truly happened, thereâs likely a lot less evidence for that however what evidence there is may still be more compelling than youâd probably imagine.
Youâre the only animal here. If you really supported your viewpoint you wouldnât be offended. Whether you categorize humans, animals or not, we are quite obviously different than every other animal. If you canât comprehend that I donât know what to tell you and itâs not worth talking to you.
It doesnât matter if they are ânot sentient yetâ they are human beings. A two year old is arguably not sentient and requires constant care. That does not mean they have no value because everyone knows they will grow up. Hopefully they will decide that they are only able to have judgement because their parents didnât kill them for their own convenience.
So youâre basically saying a woman should lack complete autonomy to protect a dependent physiological agent whose existence is solely dependent on sucking the life out of its mother. Then by that logic, every mother is required to donate their organs to their children if in need. And thatâs not legal. So not only r u a disgusting snake, but ur also an idiot. Ur sole purpose on this earth is to waste our oxygen.
âWithout attaching your identity and entire self worth to an internet debateâ bruh literally the only âdebatesâ going on here are people claiming on a whim that âI donât hate the gays, I just think their entire identities are dumb and fake.â Forgive me for not wanting to politely sit back and smile about it
Itâs just so funny that yaâll love to quote âbiology this, biology thatâ until people point out that fluctuation of sexual orientation is an actual biological occurrence, then in which case suddenly the rules of biology have nothing to do with humans. At this point Iâm quite certain your only purpose here is just annoy people and ruin their day