you were paying either way

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life sentences without possibility of parole

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Anonymous #9 20h

Hey that doesn’t exist in california

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You could be right, they all have their own agendas these days

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Anonymous #8 19h

the death penalty is inhumane and should be abolished. these people are not released into society.

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Anonymous #17 19h

Please explain why it’s inhumane?

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They’re not just gonna get released 😭

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Lethal injection is significantly more expensive than life in prison

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Anonymous #14 19h

Who does then?

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Anonymous #2 19h

Please explain why you think it’s humane? See what I did there??

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Why do you love him?

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It’s actually cheaper to keep them in a cell believe it or not! The lawyer fees for somebody to be put to death actually rack up so high for the government that you are paying less to just sentence them to life in prison.

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Anonymous #20 19h

You think it’s more humane to lock someone up without any chance of having any freedom than to quickly end their suffering?

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Anonymous #20 19h

You know ball, lol. Funny how we posted this at the same time

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Anonymous #2 19h

I’d rather get the death penalty than life without parole.

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Anonymous #14 19h

But the murderers get to?

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Anonymous #14 19h

The biggest issue with the death penalty is that those who commit multiple murders can only die once.

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Anonymous #2 19h

It’s cheaper to keep someone locked up forever rather than putting them on death row

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Anonymous #20 19h

Who said anything about lethal injection? Bring back firing squads, the hangman, and the guillotine.

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they have life in prison bro and they’re felons they can’t even vote

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Anonymous #18 19h

It’s ok I have a solution for that too. Rather than sentence them to death then wait 20 years to carry out the sentence, and rack up 20 years of expenses, I propose they get a max of 1-5 years dependent on the severity and circumstances, then they get executed. Wayyyy cheaper.

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Anonymous #23 19h

The fact that’s the first thing you thought of is a telling sign lol

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Anonymous #2 19h

The biggest issue is why do we deserve to kill? Many people on death row are mentally ill and have suffered abuse and have chronically lacked the support that they needed throughout their lives. What does it say about us if we execute those that are broken by our failed systems?

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Anonymous #17 19h

Does somebody that committed a crime worthy of the death sentence deserve humane treatment? That’s the real question tbch. I don’t think there’s a right or wrong answer

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Anonymous #18 19h

You don’t want rapists to die? That’s a telling sign. lol 🤪

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Anonymous #22 19h

No, that’s the whole reason why they’re in prison in the first place. Keep up

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Anonymous #23 19h

No I don’t think the state should have the right to kill its own citizens. I think we should take as much power out of the states hands as we can

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Anonymous #27 19h

The best they can hope for is to repent in the little time they have left. That’s the mercy. We’re giving them time to repent. And if they don’t, then they burn for eternity and it’s truly their own fault.

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Anonymous #2 19h

The process for making these executions possible regardless of method is still more expensive than life in prison

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Anonymous #18 19h

So let me get this fully correct so I know we’re not missing anything. Hypothetically if you had a 12 year old daughter who was raped and murdered you wouldn’t want that person to die? Are you fucking sick in the head? Or are you the one doing the raping?

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Anonymous #29 19h

Bc then people would complain they’re profiting off of “slave labor” rather than that person repaying their debt to society. Execute them and move on.

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Anonymous #25 19h

When did this become about race? If you did something that says you deserve to die you should die. I don’t give a fuck if you are white, black or purple.

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Anonymous #29 19h

“let’s make the state do slave labor!” what the fuck is wrong with you

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Anonymous #2 19h

jesus christ

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Anonymous #25 19h

The did kill somebody

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Anonymous #25 19h

Yup. They killed somebody. They loose there rights

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Anonymous #23 19h

im talking about his support of genocide in palestine. and the death penalty is immoral for general use, but looking at this comment section im guessing you’re a big fan of it and there’s no hope in changing any minds

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Anonymous #2 19h

Who are you, Taliban Dan?

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It’s really not. Death penalties are exponentially more expensive than life sentences

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Life sentences, that’s not how commutation works. Tune into Fox and they’ll tell you a much more captivating story tho.

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Anonymous #30 19h

Literally how. Sentence. House for a couple years. Execution.

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Anonymous #21 19h

Why are there lawyer fees specifically for death row inmates?

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Anonymous #33 19h

This is so wrong, bullets are cheap. Food for 80 years along with the Power, Water and everything else prisoners are required to have is not

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Anonymous #2 19h

10 years

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Anonymous #25 19h

Hm let’s see here, we’re not talking about the woman beaters and rapists in Palestine so that serves no purpose. We’re talking about the death penalty. And let me make this clear. If you rape and murder you should die. You should die the worst death imaginable. If it were up to me I would starve them to death. But tell me if you disagree that child rapists and murders shouldn’t die. I would love to hear you say that.

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Anonymous #26 19h

Ok? I don’t care what their excuse is. If you kill, 🍇, or commit such a serious crime that you are up for death row, then why do extenuating circumstances matter? A murder is a murder and a 🍇 is a 🍇

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Anonymous #26 19h

I have met homeless people who never turned to crime, 🍇, or murder. And they have the least help out of anyone.

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Anonymous #2 19h

God is God, He’s fully capable of working in a shorter time frame.

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Anonymous #2 19h

Agreed

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Anonymous #35 19h

Not true at all, death row inmates get infinite appeals so theyre normally in there 20+ years clogging up the legal system while their state appointed attorney battles the state prosecutor. Executions cost millions for many reasons

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Anonymous #25 19h

Only pretendicide in history where the population grew during the period

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No, they can’t vote, but he will get 2,500+ more votes due to family and friends and people doing things worthy of death

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Anonymous #2 19h

I agree that they should be punished. But why is killing them the only solution? Is there no room for mercy or redemption in our society?

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Anonymous #35 19h

The fact that you think the cost of capital punishment is the price of a BULLET is genuinely embarrassing. 😭 It’s the trials, appeals, legal representation, and decades of incarceration that make executions so expensive. You’re arguing economics while forgetting the entire justice system exists...

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Anonymous #2 19h

Not everyone who gets put on death row is executed within the same year, or even within a few years of their sentencing. Oftentimes, because of how long and expensive these legal processes are people on death row will be there for decades before their execution. At that point it’s better to just put them on a life without parole sentence

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Anonymous #2 19h

there’s lots of appeals and federal habeus corpus stuff that takes years to work through prior to the execution, and it’s in the best interest of the convict and their defense to delay and drag it out as long as possible

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Anonymous #40 19h

Why do they get infinite appeals after being sentenced? You should get a couple appeals and then you’re done. However long those 2-3 appeals takes is how long you’re held for. After that we take you out back and carry out the sentence.

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Anonymous #14 19h

It’s not the government it’s the people. A jury of your peers will decide your fate. This is democracy we don’t live in communist Russia. And if you have raped or murdered you deserve to die. End of story.

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Anonymous #31 19h

Life sentences have the same fallacy. The government decides that they live when many would rather kill themselves.

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Anonymous #23 19h

You went from debating capital punishment to accusing someone of being a rapist because they oppose state executions? That’s an astonishing failure of reasoning. Opposing the governments authority to execute people isn’t defending violent criminals. You can believe someone deserves lifelong imprisonment without believing the state should have the power to kill them. Please learn the difference before inventing increasingly disturbing hypotheticals…

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Anonymous #23 19h

yeah so not every palestinian is a rapist and woman beater. you’re just being enormously racist and justifying literal genocide with that racism. i have nothing to say to you, monster

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Anonymous #2 19h

It’s actually cheaper and in my opinion worse

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Anonymous #40 19h

Yes but I don’t believe in lifelong imprisonment. If you’ve done something so heinous that they think the best solution is to keep hou away from polite society for the rest of your life, then why are you being kept alive? Explain that. If you are such a danger to society at large, why is it better to remove you from society and put you in a box versus executing you?

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Anonymous #25 19h

Palestinian families are selling off their daughters to Hamas to buy food.

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Anonymous #23 19h

Dude crazy accusations to toss out for thinking that the government shouldn’t get to decide who lives or dies Besides, being locked in a box going mad and being brutally assaulted regularly by other inmates should be enough punishment to make them atone. Death is too good for pedophile rapists imo

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Anonymous #23 19h

Me personally I think him being tortured by other prisoners for touching a kid for decades on end where he will be in an inescapable hell before actually going to hell is better than him just dying

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they can’t vote moron

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Anonymous #36 19h

In my opinion, the fact that they get to continue breathing while their victims will never get to finish living out their lives warrants the criminal’s life being taken in turn.

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Anonymous #36 19h

First of all the government doesn’t decide. A. Jury. Of. Your. Peers. Will. Decide. Your. Fate. We live in a democracy that’s what the legal process is for. Second of all, do you know what prison is like? 3 meals and a bed sounds pretty nice for a person who would commit such an evil act. They can rot in hell instead.

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Anonymous #42 19h

Eternal damnation is worse. They can rot in hell.

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Anonymous #26 19h

Execution is the mercy. Instead of being confined to 4 walls for the rest of your life, being assaulted by other inmates, and generally going through more suffering.

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Anonymous #26 19h

Some people are beyond redeemable. If you kill or 🍇, you’re one of those people.

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Anonymous #2 19h

Now if it was self-defense. That’s different. It is morally righteous to defend yourself. But I am talking about murder, not self defense.

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Anonymous #26 19h

Should I be able to redeem myself if I rape and murder a 12 year old girl? I don’t think so, I’ll stick with the death penalty.

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Anonymous #23 19h

All I’m saying is the govt didn’t have to spend so much on prisons when the basic punishment for anything was execution.

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Anonymous #41 19h

Is the success in the room with us? Dude is a clown who has achieved literally nothing. He’s been talking about ending homelessness for like 15-18 years. There are more homeless people in California now than when he began his political career. And every year he says the system has failed the people. Mfer you are the system.

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Anonymous #36 19h

But you can repent in your final hours

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Anonymous #2 19h

Find redemption through Jesus Christ.

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Anonymous #23 19h

except who determines which crimes see a jury?? the government, so it’s not just ppl. and regardless it’s so much more affordable and feasible to not have the death penalty, it causes so much bloating in the judicial system. also i feel like the chance that the government can take an innocent persons life away bc of a wrongful conviction outways any desire i have for the worst criminals who commit heinous crimes to be punished with death.

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Anonymous #40 19h

I never accused anyone of being a rapist. It’s a hypothetical. You think you’re smart for throwing around big words that you see on your TikTok feed. I was saying, if you rape and murder a child you should die. You disagree?

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Anonymous #46 19h

Please don’t go into politics

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Anonymous #47 19h

I’m pretty sure that’s the Democrat motto nowadays

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Anonymous #23 19h

i wouldn’t mind if they died a horrible death. i just don’t think the government should have that power. if a random citizen killed a child rpist i wouldn’t bat an eye.

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Anonymous #43 19h

it’s far more expensive to execute a person than it is to give them a life sentence

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Anonymous #45 19h

and why is that

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Anonymous #45 19h

they aren’t getting released?

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Anonymous #47 19h

LMAOOO ur such a loser

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Anonymous #49 19h

Not really. If so, because we made it that way. I can do it. Cheaper than 1 day in prison.

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Anonymous #42 19h

The death penalty has been repeatedly proven to be more expensive than life in prison. Educate yourself.

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Anonymous #25 19h

Don’t put words in my mouth. I never took a stance on Palestine. I said it doesn’t matter to this discussion, because it doesn’t. Take that bullshit somewhere else

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Anonymous #23 19h

I won’t defend a child rapist. I will say that most people on death row are people who are impoverished and marginalized and do not have the means of affording adequate legal defense. There are no rich people on death row so I have a difficult time justifying the death penalty.

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Anonymous #29 19h

mind you…. that’s already a thing. slavery was abolished for all americans except for incarcerated peoples. and that’s not a good thing. if you look at taylor farms, the main culprit of the cyclospora outbreak, they used this labor, paying incarcerated people cents per hour. when we let companies take advantage of people in these conditions it allows shit like that outbreak to happen

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Anonymous #2 19h

Neither is humane ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Anonymous #48 19h

That’s what they were saying dumbasd

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Anonymous #40 19h

I don't *think* executions are more expensive, I KNOW they are more expensive. This has been proven many times. By left leaning groups trying to bad capital punishment, right wing groups trying to say it saves money and getting clowned, and by researchers who were just curious. They all got the same answer: the death penalty is more expensive than paying for life in prison.

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Anonymous #2 19h

I don’t think we should prioritize executing people when our entire justice system as it currently exists desperately needs to be uprooted and recreated. America has the highest population of incarcerated people and it’s not because Americans commit more crimes but because our judicial system believes that harsh punishment is the only solution to the mistakes that we make.

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Anonymous #26 19h

You think they put people on death row because they are impoverished and marginalized??????? Are you serious???? You think they walk around poor neighborhoods arresting people and putting them on death row? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. If you are on death row you have done something to get yourself there. No?

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Anonymous #18 19h

Jury of your peers will decide your fate. This is a democracy. The people will decide, not the state.

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Anonymous #23 19h

Is the justice system perfect? Has it ever been wrong? You think cops and judges aren’t corrupt af? Of course poor people are going to be put on death row they can’t afford to defend themselves

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Anonymous #23 19h

stay naive lol

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Anonymous #44 19h

You think they sentence people without a jury? Oh my god. Stupid.

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Anonymous #23 19h

You’re misconstruing what I said. They’re not on death row because they’re poor. But people convicted of blue collar crimes statistically face harsher sentences and longer prison sentences than those that commit white collar crimes. Also, yes, not being able to afford adequate legal defense basically fucks you over in court from the get go if your lawyer doesn’t give a fuck about you because they’re not getting paid enough to

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Anonymous #53 19h

staying on death row costs significantly more money. criminals in regular prisons have to work, criminals on death row completely rely on government (taxpayer) money

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Anonymous #2 19h

i'm really glad you're not in public services (and concerned if you are.) there are so many ways the justice system can get it wrong, and allowing execution after only two appeals would enable murder. the system is harder on pocs, addicts, and the impoverished. this means that if we made executions easy, we would basically be killing off a whole bunch of people who were just dealt a bad hand in life. also, it sounds like you have some personal anger- why are you so eager to k!ll people??

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Anonymous #53 19h

not to mention the innocent people have that have been sentenced to death, until our justice system is perfect we should not be executing anyone

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Anonymous #26 19h

So you’re telling me if you can’t afford a lawyer they are going to kill you. That’s not how it works.

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Anonymous #48 19h

The death penalty is more expensive because anti-death-penalty campaigners have spent decades introducing tedious regulations and more expensive procedures, literally *because* it allows them to make this point. Before the era of death penalty = life in prison but we finally kill the guy when he’s 80 after all appeals exhaust (with a super expensive chemical procedure), it was much much much cheaper to do the death penalty compared to life sentences. Educate yourself idk

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Anonymous #26 19h

I think if there were harsher penalties applied to all crimes and all criminals, you’d see a great reduction in crime. For example, in many countries if you steal, then the offending hand is cut off.

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Anonymous #26 19h

Are they on trial for petty crimes? Or are they on trial for 🍇 and murder?

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Anonymous #51 19h

they are there for a reason. If they murdered they should die. If they raped they should die. Rich or poor Idgaf. Secondly, what are you suggesting we do? Of course there’s corruption, no shit. But what should we do instead of putting our trust in the judicial process?

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Anonymous #51 19h

They receive free public defenders.

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Anonymous #35 19h

Goddamn are you stupid

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Anonymous #26 19h

Please define blue collar crime and white collar crime. Tell me the difference between the two and think about why the punishment may be different for those two types of crimes.

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Anonymous #2 19h

so the united states of america actually had an amendment preventing cruel and unusual punishment 😊 we don’t cut off hands because thousands of years of history has proven that torture and inhumane punishment is bad for the state

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Anonymous #46 19h

What makes me wrong? Can you prove it?

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Anonymous #23 19h

I feel like you’re dismissing what I’m saying. If you can’t afford a good lawyer,and the lawyer you’re given puts no effort into defending you, a jury won’t know that and then is more likely to find you guilty or decide a harsher punishment

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Anonymous #55 19h

Rope is a dollar a foot at Home Depot. Sounds cheap enough to me

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Anonymous #44 19h

What’s the difference? They end up dead either way.

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Anonymous #36 18h

There’s no redemption if you have raped or murdered. Rapists and murders can die.

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Anonymous #44 18h

exactly, innocent people are at risk of being executed therefore it shouldn’t be an option. pedophiles deserve death, but the government does not deserve the right to execute

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Anonymous #2 18h

You should look into the case of Herbert Richardson who was executed in 1989 to understand what I’m talking about. I agree we should utilize punishment, but in the United States our punishment system is severely outdated and unnecessarily cruel.

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Anonymous #29 18h

because then innocent people would end up end slavery

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Anonymous #23 18h

Because it's a very difficult line. If we allow the death penalty for this and that, who's to say other things shouldn't be acceptable as things for the death penalty? It could lead us down a path of societal regression. Whereas letting them rot for life allows them to either be punished, wasting less money, and if they're later exonerated they would have a higher chance of still being alive and seeing daylight outside prison

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Anonymous #49 18h

Why? Cause they’re right. lol 😂🤪

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Life without parole

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Anonymous #46 18h

Nothing will ever be perfect. Which means you think there should never be executions.

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Anonymous #46 18h

Bc people lobbied to keep death row inmates from working then pointed saying “look, they live off the government, it’s so expensive to keep people on death row, let’s just get rid of it.”

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Anonymous #48 18h

The materials are like $50 at lowe’s hardware

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Anonymous #35 18h

prisoners that aren’t on death row have jobs. a lot of those jobs are contracted with companies unrelated to the prison. they make literal cents an hour, basically doing slave labor for ramen and water. death row prisoners do no labor and live entirely off the government, they cost us so much money NOT including the insane costs of execution

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Anonymous #46 18h

Anyone who is concretely convicted of crimes like rape, murder, and crimes against children should be executed no question

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Anonymous #2 18h

that’s not how we execute people anymore stupid

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Anonymous #53 18h

innocent people are convicted of such crimes all the time, therefore execution shouldn’t be an option

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Anonymous #46 18h

If u shoot someone on camera or rape someone and the rape kit comes back positive, why spend 50 thousand plus to keep the person alive

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Anonymous #60 18h

I know and it’s such a shame. Personally the guillotine or firing squad would be my first choice.

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Anonymous #46 18h

That’s such a bad take by that logic people shouldn’t get arrested cause they could be falsely convicted

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Anonymous #58 18h

He’s already done a soft launch. Issue is he can’t run against Kamala if she chooses to run. He’s waiting on her to make up her mind before he does anything.

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Anonymous #63 18h

it’s the principle of the state not being allowed to execute because the justice system is imperfect. there is always risk of an innocent death, therefore the government should not have he right to execute

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Anonymous #26 18h

That’s 1989 we are in 2026, do you know how rare it is for someone to be punished for a crime they didn’t commit? We have so many more ways to prove a crime now than we did 37 years ago. That shit doesn’t happen anymore and they definitely wouldn’t kill someone without hard evidence. Find a more recent case and then get back to me.

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Anonymous #41 18h

They had a trial. They were found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Good enough for me

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Anonymous #63 18h

not to mention death row costs the government so much money bc the inmates do zero labor, if they were imprisoned for life it would be cheaper

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Anonymous #45 18h

Yeah people against the death penalty made it more expensive to do it, I feel like a single round of 9mm to the back of the head would be WAY cheaper than say 80 years of food and water but we can’t do that kind of execution

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Anonymous #63 18h

do you know how long death row inmates spend waiting in prison on average?

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Anonymous #41 18h

That’s exactly why it’s left to a jury of your peers to decide. That makes no sense. Obviously it depends on what you have done but if you are doing things that COULD land you on death row why the FUCK are you doing them in the first place?

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Anonymous #2 18h

Pay them low wages to farm and produce necessary resources to boost the economy like timber and other natural resources

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Anonymous #23 18h

Did you even look into the case? Herbert Richardson 100% committed a horrible crime but executing him is justifiably unjust because of his lack of legal defense. He killed a 7 year old girl and I don’t think he deserved to be executed.

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Anonymous #46 18h

Innocent people? You think a jury would put someone on death row with no evidence nowadays? It’s 2026 use your brain.

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Anonymous #55 18h

The regulations and appeals process we have are as a result of our margin of error. We have a decent track record of killing innocent people. Even in the modern age with these appeals we still have about a 5% margin of executing innocent people. 1 in 20.

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Anonymous #23 18h

do you not think a jury is capable of convicting an innocent person in 2026? use YOUR head

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Anonymous #53 18h

They aren’t allowed to bc of the anti-death penalty lobbyists. “They’re already on death row so why make them do labor?” Was basically their whole argument.

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why would they be released into the public, are you stupid?

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Anonymous #46 18h

Find me a case of that happening in the last 10 years. I’ll wait.

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Anonymous #66 18h

So 95% of people executed are dangerous criminals? You have better odds of being aborted than you do of having an innocent person put on death row and executed

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Anonymous #23 18h

Or if you want a current case look into Michael Taylor in Alabama set to be an executed soon. He is on death row for a murder he committed in 1991 when he was only 19 years old, although he has had a rebirth of faith after spending decades in prison, he is still going to be executed.

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Anonymous #2 18h

It should be 0% of people executed are innocent. That’s messed up. You could be one of those 1 in 20 someday

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Anonymous #2 18h

Prison life isn’t half bad actually

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Anonymous #37 18h

It’s not up to God, it’s up to the people He’s trying to reach

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Anonymous #26 18h

If you think igaf if he had a “rebirth” then you are crazy. He beat and old couple to death with a metal pole. He’s actually supposed to die today. Good. Justice is served. Or is it not? Are you defending this murderer? If I go out and beat both of your grandparents to death during a robbery are you going to defend me to? I don’t think so.

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Anonymous #2 18h

1% of innocent people dying is too many.

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Anonymous #26 18h

“He killed a 7 year old girl and I don’t think he deserved to be executed” are you genuinely fucking insane????? He could have the best lawyer on earth and he would still get the death penalty.

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Anonymous #69 18h

I don’t 🍇 or murder, so I’m certain I’ll be fine.

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Anonymous #23 18h

He’s spent over half of his life in prison for a crime he committed when he was young and deeply regrets. Is that not punishment enough? I am not the victims family, but I like to think I have enough forgiveness and love in my heart to forgive those that want to be better people. I think we are all worth more than our worst mistakes

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Anonymous #2 18h

Until you get falsely accused of either, or until the government decides to label you a violent offender anyway.

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Anonymous #26 18h

Then he will be accepted into the Heavenly Host in a warm embrace for his repentance. Which is the greatest reward any of us could ever hope for

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Anonymous #66 18h

So we should let the other 99% of rapists and murders live? No thanks.

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Anonymous #2 18h

sorry to be mean, but the fact that you don’t commit crimes doesn’t mean you’re not at risk of being falsely convicted, that’s like the entire point dumbass

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Anonymous #66 18h

Think about how many innocent people died at the hands of these same people on death row. I bet you the odds don’t stack in your favor

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Anonymous #23 18h

See the real play is to just become a woman, murder your three children, then claim insanity bc hormones, society, not getting enough support.

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Anonymous #2 18h

Lmaooo fax 😂

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Anonymous #23 18h

Look into his case. His mother died when he was 3, he was repeatedly abused as a child and he was a Vietnam war veteran who was the sole survivor in his platoon, afterwards suffering from severe headaches and attempted suicide many times. He did not get the help he needed and made a terrible mistake. None of these relevant facts were brought up during his trial and he was executed. Please look into his case before calling me insane

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Anonymous #26 18h

So would it be different if he was old? Does it excuse me to murder someone because I’m young? You are genuinely so stupid 😂

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Anonymous #23 18h

At a young age your brain is not fully developed or matured yet. Young people make stupid decisions. Do you not know this? And no killing someone can’t be excused that’s not what I’m saying at all jackass

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Anonymous #55 18h

Yes we have tedious regulations because this country has murdered several innocent people. You think this is a bad thing?

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Anonymous #23 18h

Live a life in prison where they can’t do any more damage, yeah I do. Killing them only serves retribution, it’s not even an effective deterrent.

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Anonymous #2 18h

You’re okay with robbing someone of their life because if you’re wrong then at least they’ll still go to heaven? Do you hear yourself?

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Anonymous #55 18h

The problem is it’s a lot easier to sue against death penalty so the govt needs to spend on lawyers for basically the prisoner’s entire life in jail

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Anonymous #1 18h

No sorry! The death penalty affects low income and black individuals at a disproportionate rate, most of which had to use a public defender. these public defenders have much less time, money, and resources to accurately defend their clients.

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Anonymous #23 18h

Yes they did terrible, awful things. Does that mean we should do terrible, awful things while spending millions of dollars doing it and potentially killing the wrong person?

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Anonymous #74 18h

It’s not that it’s a lot easier, it’s that death penalty inmates are required to have an appeal (even if they don’t want it) which makes it far more expensive. Just do life without parole. Bad prison food, harsh inmate presence, no last meal of choice (their victim didn’t get one), they have to spend far longer in a cell

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Anonymous #70 18h

Then there will be a court case and I’ll be proven innocent. There are way too many ways to prove innocence. They can track my phone, flock cameras, other security cameras, car data like gps, and so much more to determine I wasn’t there.

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Anonymous #75 18h

Girl yk these people don’t think lmao

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Anonymous #2 18h

And you should be right there with them❤️

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Anonymous #48 18h

No it ain’t

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Anonymous #27 18h

Bro thinks the state should be given a pass to enact inhumane treatment because of what’s “deserved” lol

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since when did low income equate to not working? Keep spouting your bullshit somewhere else, bootlicker

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Anonymous #26 18h

Did he have a public defender?

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Anonymous #75 18h

Hi, I’m down there in another comment arguing against the death penalty but came back up here to clarify as a law student: public defenders have a similar track record to regular defense attorneys. Some studies actually suggest that they perform better in several metrics.

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Piss off troll

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Anonymous #75 18h

You defending people that wouldn’t spit on you if you were on fire lmao. Idc what the racial distribution looks like, people don’t get put on death row for nothing.

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Anonymous #26 18h

Still waiting on you to define blue collar crime vs white collar crime.

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Anonymous justinian 18h

To be clear I dislike him because he isn’t far left enough, I am not a Republican

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Anonymous #2 18h

I’m sure all of the other innocent people that were put on death row said the exact same thing. You’re ignoring the crust of my premise with “well it won’t happen to me”

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Anonymous #66 18h

Could you dm me some sources, I’d love to do more research

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Anonymous #2 18h

I don’t know go look it up and tell me

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Anonymous #2 18h

Uhh do you know what innocent means?

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Anonymous #2 18h

Nice way to avoid my question! You’re okay with robbing someone of their life because if you’re wrong they’ll still go to heaven? That’s what you’re saying, right?

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Anonymous #66 18h

The issue is you conflate wrongful executions from 40 years ago with the modern age.

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Anonymous #75 18h

They have the highest rates of collecting unemployment per capita

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Anonymous #2 18h

specifically in the case of 🍇 (although i wouldn’t be shocked if this applied to other crimes), it’s actually been shown that the certainty of being caught is a more effective deterrent than the severity of the punishment. something i found interesting is that increasing the severity of the potential punishments for 🍇 could increase the severity of the crimes committed. if someone thinks the justice system won’t catch them or that they won’t face the consequences, it doesn’t matter to them

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Anonymous #81 18h

what the consequences are

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Anonymous #75 18h

Sure! Studies by Cohen, Sharma, Hartley are just a few examples. Public defenders are overworked but they’re not the “idiot lawyers” as the media portrays them. A lot of new grad lawyers go into it for government work, resume building and to help cut back on student loans.

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Anonymous #66 18h

Thank you!

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Anonymous #2 17h

That is considered the modern age of the death penalty. All executions from its reinstatement in the 70s to now.

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Anonymous #66 17h

We also have a history of gruesomely failed executions, which is why we have regulations. The suggestion that it became expensive because some vague and unspecified group wanted to be able to call it expensive is just completely ridiculous

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Anonymous #59 17h

Rage bait

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corrupt people want you to believe this about welfare recipients so they can keep screwing us

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Anonymous #76 17h

why do you think that is

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Anonymous #75 17h

That committed heinous crimes like what

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Anonymous #23 17h

Those words were not even big, please read a thesaurus…

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Anonymous #82 17h

Me too

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Anonymous #80 17h

people DO get put on death row for nothing. over 200 people have been exonerated from death row in the last 50 years. and we’ll never know how many people we’ve killed that were actually innocent

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Anonymous #86 17h

who cares, sitting in jail forever is probably worse anyway

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Anonymous #85 17h

People on death penalty don’t wanna die. They wanna live. Death penalty is worse

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Anonymous #1 17h

If that was the case we wouldn’t have to budget mental health allocations to them and have them on constant suicide watch.

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Anonymous #66 17h

Not many attempt suicide, far more want to live

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Anonymous #1 17h

I know, i guess i am just trying to make the point that it doesn’t matter if we end the death penalty bc they will be in jail for the rest of their lives either way

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Anonymous #85 17h

It’s better to remove them from earth

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Anonymous #1 17h

Death row has a higher per capita suicide rate than regular prison inmates. Additionally the “volunteer phenomenon” is present in which case inmates volunteer for their own execution to hasten it up.

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Anonymous #66 17h

Not sure why we’re defending rapists and murderers being alive but ok

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Anonymous #1 17h

Because the death penalty is a crime against our justice system, it has a large margin of error against innocent people and is a major financial drain on our resources.

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Anonymous #1 17h

Not sure why you want to see the government kill people but ok.

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Anonymous #17 17h

No it’s not. These people on death row are inhumane and have no humanity left in them.

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 17h

So you want rapist and murderers alive… noticing

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Anonymous #1 17h

So you don’t have an argument against anything anyone is saying anymore and your default is to take a faux moral high ground that is not moral, nor high. Good job.

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Anonymous #1 17h

People can always be found innocent with new evidence, the only way that recompense can’t be given is if the states murders the person before finding said evidence.

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Anonymous #66 17h

Your argument is keeping pedophiles, rapists and murderers alive. I will never side with that btw. Any argument that advocates for them not facing actual punishment I won’t agree with

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Anonymous #1 17h

Being in the prison industrial complex of the United States is a pretty fucking big punishment.

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 17h

No it’s not Punishment is losing your life

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Anonymous #1 17h

Don’t have this person watch your kids, everyone. They think the only punishment that exists is death.

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Anonymous #83 17h

Ireallylikepancakes approves this message

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Anonymous #1 17h

And what about the margin of error (1 in 20) of innocent people that are executed by the death penalty? What about the millions of dollars wasted to potentially execute someone? It’s cheaper and more humane to punish them by allowing them to never be free again.

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 17h

Nope only thing rapist and murderers should get the death penalty :)

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Anonymous #75 17h

Well well well…

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Anonymous #1 17h

There’s actually a really good reason why rapists don’t get the death penalty. It’s because if they were, it’d be harder to get victims to testify than it already is! Making the death penalty the sentence for rapists prevents them from getting caught. You’re advocating for more rapists to go unreported.

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 17h

Ok maga!

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Anonymous #1 17h

PFFFT funniest shit I’ve read today.

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 17h

MAGA keeps rapists alive and pedos seems like you’re doing that

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Anonymous #1 17h

I’m as left as they come, which is why I don’t like giving the government the legal power to kill someone.

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Anonymous #1 17h

MAGA does that because many of them are rapists and pedos, they’re protecting their own.

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 17h

You’re doing that by not supporting the death penalty. Noticing

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Anonymous #1 16h

You’re giving rapists the means to silence their victims.

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 16h

Killing a rapist doesn’t silence their victims it gives their victims a chance to voice it without the rapist lying!

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Anonymous #1 16h

Holy shit you don’t understand basic cause and effect. You. Can’t. Get. The. Rapist. In. Prison. If. Their. Victims. Don’t. Testify. Are you advocating for executing a suspect before their trial?

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 16h

You’re wasting your own energy to keep engaging in this conversation. #1 just keeps going to fuel their ego and/or to troll. Better to just dip out and let him reply with something snarky instead of an actual argument or factual data like they’ve been doing.

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 16h

I’m saying once they’re in jail death penalty idk why you started assuming we’re talking about rapists not in jail. This is about the death penalty for those convicted. Stop moving the goal post to seem right

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Anonymous #1 16h

Man you really are not good at arguing huh

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Anonymous #91 16h

the government should not get to choose if you live or die 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️abortion is healthcare and saves the lives we already are failing to take care of

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Anonymous #73 16h

I don’t argue I state my opinion. Arguing is for people who hate life

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Anonymous #75 16h

Are they not murderers? Like who cares what race they are 😂

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Anonymous #75 16h

Cuz they commit more crime

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Anonymous #75 16h

have you ever thought about why it’s disproportionate? bc the people committing the crimes are black and or low income and have you ever thought that you wouldn’t need a public defender if they never committed the crime in the first place? but they did and someone who was actually truly innocent paid the price

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Anonymous #2 16h

Naw he’s definitely runningZ

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Anonymous #29 16h

The death sentence is also very expensive

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Anonymous #82 16h

Killing them costs significantly more…

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Anonymous #63 16h

Being arrested and being killed are too very different things.

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Anonymous #23 16h

No. Because they’re boiling down two very complex topics into the most black and white, nuance free, braindead slogan 💀

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Anonymous #1 15h

People are presenting genuine points to you and you’re just responding with things like “it’s just better to remove them from earth” or “ok maga.” Thoughtful people have the ability to genuinely consider others perspectives and either present a genuine counterpoint or concede on certain topics that they agree with. If your opinion was nuanced at all or based on anything concrete, you would have no trouble doing this.

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Anonymous #103 15h

Idk I’d rather be executed than be raped in prison for 30 years then released into society with my name trashed, no job, no home, no chance at a proper life

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Anonymous #39 15h

“An eye for an eye” type thinking never works well. Also not a single person is defending the criminals. You misunderstand the whole argument.

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Anonymous #1 15h

get rid of em

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Anonymous #23 15h

what? this is a stupid sentence. ofc we would want them to die. that doesn’t mean the government should be allowed to do it. if someone hit me I would probably want to beat them up, that doesn’t mean I think the government should go around beating up people who commit crimes In this hypothetical you presented, I would also probably want to burn this person’s house to the ground. Should we give the government the power to burn down the houses of criminals?

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Anonymous #75 15h

Cheaper to whack them then spend money on a prison cell for 50+ years, and I’m sure killing them is the more humane option anyways

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Anonymous #48 15h

It’s not about money

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Anonymous #75 15h

The problem is housing them for a whole life sentence is not worth the cost. If they truly did the crime which is why they are there they should get the penalty.

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Anonymous #112 15h

they should only do death penalty for people they are 100% sure did it

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Anonymous #75 15h

Well I’m not defending it if more poor people are sentenced to death for the same crime as others, that’s absolutely unjust. But, maybe don’t commit crime.

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Anonymous #113 15h

The crimes that get you a death sentence aren’t a small crime. The poor people who just commit crimes to get off the street are not getting the death penalty.

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Anonymous #75 15h

Generally because crime is higher in those communities, yes. Black on black crime is, per capita, higher than white crime. It’s not disproportionate when you actually look deeper than the surface level.

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Anonymous #112 15h

poor people are more likely to not have adequate representation tho, thus more likely to be wrongfully convicted

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Anonymous #100 15h

It’s specific deterrence, not general. They’re both important, and you’re not distinguishing between the two.

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Anonymous #1 14h

Agreed.

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Anonymous #75 14h

so poor people

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Anonymous #66 14h

Exactly, it’s not about murderers, rapists, abusers, and depraved individuals not deserving death as justice; it’s about a deeply flawed system that, in practice, routinely produces miscarriages of justice. It is worse for an innocent person to be put to death than for a guilty person to go free.

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Anonymous #115 14h

Without getting into the reason why “black crime is higher,” the ratio of Black death penalties to white death penalties is MUCH higher than the rate of black to white crime. As of April, 40% on death row are black. 34% of executions since the 70s have been of black people. That sounds right to you?

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Anonymous #1 14h

even if death penalties are moral, our justice system cant prosecute right anyways

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Anonymous #75 14h

Literally. As much as I think some of them people need to get up off the Earth, I never think it should be the government's job to do so.

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Anonymous #10 14h

lolll

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Anonymous #9 14h

He’s so desensitized to California

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Anonymous #75 14h

Randy Kraft killed 16 young men and boys in Southern California and according to a scorecard they found, the number could be as high as 68. His sentence was commuted. Chester turner killed 14 women in the state of California, one of which was pregnant. His sentence was commuted. I could go on, but yikyak limits comment lengths. I can pull more if you’d like

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Anonymous #48 14h

A single round of 22 would be far cheaper

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Anonymous #115 14h

Based on a 2024 study investigating 27000 cases of serious crimes, black people had a rate between 4.6 and 8.7 times higher than the general population, and Latinos have between 3.2 and 6.2 times higher. Also the ratio of death penalties for black on white homicide compared to white on homicide is 11.5:1. Pretty telling

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Anonymous #2 14h

the fact that u have a mindset that’s okay with murder shows who you are… and that u like torturing methods. wouldn’t take much to guess who u are

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Anonymous #75 14h

“Death row affects black individuals at a disproportionate rate”

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Anonymous #75 14h

Maybe because lower income and black individuals have a higher likelihood to do crimes to be put on death row… it’s not racist or classist it’s just statistics.

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Anonymous #85 14h

They don't work.

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Anonymous #2 13h

Personally, if someone did a horrific crime on me or someone I loved, I’d want them to have to suffer being locked up for the rest of their life instead of getting the eternal peace of death early.

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Anonymous #1 13h

Death penalty costs the taxpayer more money than life in prison

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Anonymous #76 13h

Unemployment means looking for a job but not employed

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Anonymous #75 13h

I’m all against the death penalty but low income and black individuals commit a disproportionately high amount of crimes statistically so is this based off of everyone who’s committed a crime or everyone in the country

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Anonymous #133 13h

Shoot me that citation please

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Anonymous #32 13h

Statistically black people are 13-14% of the population and commit 36% of violent crimes. I’m not making any racist statement here im echoing a statistic. Low income people are also proved to commit more crimes than higher income people there’s no exact number but it’s true. I’m just wondering if this sample that 75 is talking about is fair or not

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Anonymous #2 13h

Firing squad is much quicker and much cheaper but Noo we have to inject them with chemicals that don’t work half the time because someone said it’s more humane

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Anonymous #75 13h

That’s not the right answer. It’s because the justice system is broken that any crucial evidence presented in the court is often thrown out. The burden of proof is on the defendant and not the state. I am off for the death penalty, and we should, I don’t know, shoot them all, but then again there’s a risk of a third of them being innocent, and so commuting is the best option.

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Anonymous #130 13h

Yeah, it’s DEFINITELY not because cops patrol black neighborhoods way more than they do for any other demographic.

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Anonymous maid_enjoyer 13h

the burden of proof is defined in the constitution and it’s decided on by independent unbiased peers not the judge and if something is thrown out it MOST of the time is on the prosecution as they have to present evidence to the court by nature the defense essentially just needs to contest every piece of “evidence” they throw at them so the likelyhood of the DEFENSE having evidence thrown out is very low bc providing evidence is not the premises of the defenses job

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Anonymous #75 13h

Maybe if they wouldn’t do it so much

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Anonymous #1 13h

Innocent people in jail can be exonerated. Innocent people who were murdered in error can't.

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Anonymous #85 13h

Except you can be 100% sure and still get it wrong 💀

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Anonymous #140 13h

Name literally one objective metric that California has declined in for reasons unrelated to Trump

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Anonymous #84 13h

Housing

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Anonymous #84 13h

Sanity LOL

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Anonymous #1 12h

Wait.. a rapist should be killed?

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Anonymous #66 12h

There is also a lot of research within the criminal justice field about the lack of time, resources and certain opportunities public defenders have. It not that they’re “idiot lawyers” the system is literally working against them as well as their clients

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Anonymous #116 12h

I mean… it’s a big state with a big population…

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Anonymous #2 12h

If they’re guilty of doing something abhorrent they deserve to spend their life making amends, not get the easy way out. If they’re innocent they don’t deserve to die for something they didn’t do. Either scenario the death penalty is a terrible option.

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Anonymous #80 12h

“People don’t get put on death row for nothing” youngest person to face capital punishment was a 14-year-old Black child who had been falsely accused and mistrialed by the way.

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Anonymous #2 12h

The reason why it’s more expensive is because of the legal expenses incurred by the mandatory proceedings that are part of sentencing someone to capital, not because of “racking up 20+ years in expenses by keeping them alive until you execute them”.

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Anonymous #23 12h

❌chill in a jail cell and get fat ✅get beaten the fuck up every day and have nothing but time to think about how you’re scum for the rest of your life

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Anonymous #75 12h

Sorry! The death penalty effects low income and black individuals. Why would you waste your time money and resources to defend a client that’s a low income black individual causing crime in our country figure it out your argument is weak. The low income black individual doesn’t have resources. Why would the government waste their time on someone that has no resources

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Anonymous #75 12h

Why’s it disproportionately affect blacks? Maybe because a lot of them are violent criminals?

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Anonymous #147 12h

Google is free and available for use at any time.

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Anonymous #92 11h

No they don’t, Middle East are d1 for capital punishment, we’re like d2

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Anonymous #49 11h

Guns are cheap, use a firing squad

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Anonymous #75 11h

Btw black individuals commit disproportionately more crimes. Not to mention calling off all death penalties in the name of disproportionality is genuinely insane considering the heinous crimes some of these individuals committed. Thankfully many of these cases have to be reviewed by the California Supreme Court.

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Anonymous #75 11h

lmao ok murderer apologist

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Anonymous #132 11h

ok if i don’t have a job and im not looking for a job does that mean im not unemployed like the fuck 🤡

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Anonymous #132 11h

dumb fuck

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Anonymous #144 11h

lmfao yeah in 1929…

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Anonymous #141 11h

No he’s fucking stupid, California hasn’t executed anyone for 20 years and he’s wasting taxpayer money initiating the communment process for child kidnappers and serial murderers.

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Anonymous #1 11h

agree with you 100% bro these people are rape and murder apologists💯

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Anonymous #75 11h

Womp womp bro don’t be a criminal

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Anonymous #75 11h

Is it disproportionate because the rate at which those groups commit crimes outweigh everyone else…

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Anonymous #133 11h

I don’t see the 36% statistic anywhere online. Regardless of your opinion on that though, as of April, 40 percent of people on death row were black. There is no way you could seriously justify that. Obviously they are being specifically targeted by the justice system (and many other systemic issues but that is the one at hand now).

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Anonymous #73 11h

The only place I see 36 is specifically non fatal violent assault excluding minor assault which is unrelated to the topic of execution

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Anonymous #75 10h

Well…. If they didn’t commit a crime… there would be no problem. 👀

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Anonymous #132 10h

bootlicker it’s not even like they’re going to be paying less now

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Anonymous #75 10h

Yah but there’s also pedophiles, rapists, and murders that get to escape punishment now. If u were a victim or a family member of a victim, I don’t think you’d be too happy

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Anonymous #2 10h

this relies on an honest case where everyone is sincerely represented and all the right evidence is put forward, which doesnt always happen, and innocent people get put to death

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Anonymous #26 10h

so if rich people were getting killed too you’d defend the death penalty? if the people on death row had the means to afford adequate legal defense like the rich people do, they’d just get off with their crimes as well.

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Anonymous #2 10h

literally

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Anonymous #2 10h

alright bro cmon i was on ur side but god isn’t real can we be fr

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Anonymous #107 10h

yes

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Anonymous #161 10h

understanding we have done wrong and still going on to sin again with no shame or concern of what we have done previously.

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Anonymous #161 10h

all it takes to enter the kingdom of heaven is to believe that Jesus died on the cross to carry the weight of your sins and believe that he is the Lord and Savior.

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Anonymous #44 10h

oh but what if that child rapist the random citizen killed is innocent oh nooOooO he didn’t have proper representation!!! so you think a random citizen should have more power than the government to kill somebody wtf r u even saying

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Anonymous #161 10h

the rapture will come whether you want it to or not and nothing and no one can turn you to christ other than yourself.

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Anonymous #100 10h

not like they’d use that money saved for anything we actually fucking need anyway, nor would people be paying less in taxes.

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Anonymous #161 10h

you believe a man-made storybook?

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Anonymous #161 10h

This^^

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Anonymous #151 10h

No point in trying to argue with stupid. Let them live in their little fairytale while the rest of us actually use our brains. 😗

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Anonymous #152 10h

NEWSCUM

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Anonymous #162 9h

Means you lack bare minimum common sense

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Anonymous #75 9h

It’s like you’re almost there but just not putting it together

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Anonymous #2 9h

except we know there are MANY instances of false convictions which lead to the death penalty

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Anonymous #118 9h

a “book” with 40 different authors over 1500 years of time, and agreed upon one singular story, that Jesus Christ rose from the dead. mohammed is dead, buddha is dead, confucius is dead, joseph smith is dead, one singular man transcended the plane of human existence.

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Anonymous #131 9h

the more you study true biology, physiology, pathophysiology, microbiology, and cell biology the more obvuous it becomes that there was a true conscious and all knowing being that created us in a certain specific way. too many impossibilities became possible. too many incidents lined up coincidentally for it to all just be an accident. if it all was than why isn’t there any other evidence of another life form evolving to our level.

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Anonymous #151 9h

it means you aren’t in the labor force at all, at least according to the Bureau of Labor statistics, who collects unemployment data. The BLS defines unemployment as “people who are jobless and looking for a job who are capable of working” In every day conversation the distinction does not matter but its important to know how its defined if we are discussing statistics.

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Anonymous #161 9h

one man lived throughout time. it is a fact that Jesus of Nazareth was a living person. you believe text books of old people, you believe the teachings left behind by plato, aristotle, sophocles, and any other ancient philosopher. but you deny the 40 different authors over 1500 years. which means some were alive after all the previous had died, and they all believed the same exact event happened in history. you play on common sense but only listen when it benefits your own beliefs.

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Anonymous #115 8h

Specific deterrence?

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Anonymous #104 8h

He’s termed out

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Anonymous #151 8h

Let’s remember every year about 65 cops are killed by people while 1,200 people are killed by cops.

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Anonymous #100 8h

A third of people killed by strangers are killed by cops.

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Anonymous #150 8h

And we don’t have money to spare because of his Prop 42 which makes it so we need a constitutional amendment to tax assets.

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Anonymous #53 8h

Maintaining death row infrastructure, lengthy appeals processes, and specialized trials makes capital cases significantly more expensive for taxpayers than life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.

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Anonymous #29 8h

Bro your proposing slavery

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Anonymous #100 8h

Which we already have in the prison system hence why we have the largest prison population on earth per capita

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Anonymous #100 8h

ur point is?

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Anonymous #163 8h

that’s ridiculous to say

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Anonymous #165 8h

man the fucking definition of unemployed is not employed. do you know what the prefix -un means

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Anonymous #75 8h

Shut the fuck up dude

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Anonymous #48 8h

You just restated my point good job dumbass

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Anonymous #23 8h

And if god isnt real the guy escapes Scott free

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Anonymous #131 7h

What about the ones who get released and do something horrific again

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Anonymous #1 7h

Death penalty is more expensive than life in prison. Prison is not fun for the people who commit death penalty worthy offenses and in some cases the “punishment” they get there can feel worse than death penalty

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Anonymous #151 7h

As he should!

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Unfortunately they will remain disenfranchised

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Anonymous #151 5h

go back to soc 101

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Anonymous #66 5h

Dude 1 in 20? Where in the world did you get that statistic

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Anonymous #174 4h

ignorant fucks always thinking you’re better than someone. i’m in soc 401. i still have my own fucking opinions. you’re an absolute joke if that’s all you gotta say. someone starts hacking at your schooling that’s when you know you’ve won the argument.

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Anonymous #2 4h

Dying without it being painful is hardly a punishment. In fact it isn’t even a punishment at all For some people who are at peace with it I bet

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Anonymous #36 4h

Eh you probably reincarnate

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Anonymous #23 4h

What if you died and found out you had done that in a past life

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Anonymous #41 4h

Tf does Trump have to do with anything here

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Anonymous #62 4h

Tf are you even talking about

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Anonymous #47 4h

Hitlers 2-8 were aborted

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Anonymous #151 4h

Did man not make storybook?

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Anonymous #161 4h

Who are responding to, I must have them blocked or something

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Anonymous #151 4h

It’s definitely harder

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Anonymous #108 4h

Is it really that inaccurate in the modern day I can imagine how it could have been before DNA but are people really getting the death penalty all that commonly in the modern day without DNA evidence confirming their guilt

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Anonymous #101 4h

Really

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Anonymous #12 4h

Yeah what he said. Maybe the rest of the west but China, Russia, India, Africa idk about that dude. Even South America.

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Anonymous #151 4h

yes I know lmao, Im saying the BLS who collects employment statistics in the US uses a very narrow definition of unemployment that is different from the normal understanding of the word. I think its dumb but thats how they do it.

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