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It is hilarious that you see what Israel is doing and you see utter evil, but Hamas are the good guys, honestly I wouldn’t support either but the utter hypocrisy I see from you people constantly, makes me care more about the Israelis. Here comes the excuse for why Hamas JUST HAD to do the things they do.

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That’s not changing anything. Whatever creed or faith you are, you seem to be fully aware that you are a despicable piece of shit, and instead just… threaten the use of nuclear weapons? This is why the entire planet hates israel. You make it so easy.

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Anonymous #2 8w

Hamas started something they couldn’t finish and cried about it.

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Anonymous #2 8w

I don’t recall saying that. The world is not black and white, young zionist apologist. There is something called nuance. Hating israel =\= supporting hamas. Would you like me to put this in a format you understand - perhaps a tik tok?

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Anonymous #7 8w

All 3 of the comments above me are so ignorant it’s sad. 2023 even prior to October 7th was the most deadly year for Palestinians in the West Bank since the 2’d intifada. In 2018-2019 gazans peacefully protested the occupation for months, what happened. The IDF killed over 300 innocent Palestinians over 65 children, wounding more than 30 THOUSAND. How do you expect a group of people to react when you constantly keep them under siege and react to their peaceful protests in this way.

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Anonymous #2 8w

2 things can be true at once. october 7 was a tragedy. 73,000 palestinians being killed since, I have no words for. it's cruel to turn off your empathy for thousands of people who were murdered; you shouldn't let yourself become a cruel person. each life is of immeasurable value.

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Anonymous #7 8w

I dont think Hamas started it lol. Dispossession started decades ago from the Israeli state

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Tell me you don’t understand music without telling me

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Anonymous #6 8w

Cardi b’s WAP is heavily political, you’re right

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Anonymous #16 8w

“Now get your boots and your coat for this WAP He bought a phone just for pictures of this WAP Pay my tuition just to kiss me on this WAP (mwah, mwah, mwah)” Incredible statement on the actions of current a president and other top officials with minors!

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Anonymous #23 8w

I don’t support the Israeli govt but queen please please educate yourself

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Anonymous #13 8w

If any performer wore black face, you people would be crying out of your sweet pussies

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And yet y’all say antizionism isn’t antisemitism. Et tu?

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Correct the IDF will kill if you there

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Anonymous #28 8w

Zionism is antisemitism

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Anonymous #29 8w

IDF are the terrorists

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Anonymous #27 8w

Music is inherently political and it’s not political to not support a genocidal ethnostate

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Anonymous #30 8w

No it’s not. You don’t get to go on stage for tens of thousands of people that came there to have a good time and just make it political. Ed Sheeran isn’t in the wrong for not wanting to make his concerts a political statement. Separate the two

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Anonymous #27 8w

Buddy, music has always been about politics just look at Pink Floyd or something it’s pretty obvious. Also just being a good person isn’t necessarily political

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Anonymous #30 8w

How is music always political. How are any of Ed Sheeran songs political. None of his music is political. His concert isn’t meant to be political he isn’t in the wrong for not wanting it to be. This entire conflict is extremely controversial and puts a negative spotlight on Ed that he doesn’t want. He will get shit from all sides, he doesn’t deserve that cause an artist wanted to selfishly make the concert about his own political views. God forbid he wants his concerts to be about his music

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Anonymous #27 8w

Saying children shouldn’t die isn’t political

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Anonymous #23 8w

free Palestine fuck the Israeli government but what the fuck are you talking about?????

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Anonymous #7 8w

If you think the conflict started on October 7 you have no grasp on history

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Bruh

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Anonymous #13 8w

that was in 2014 btw, & was meant as a disguise at a secret concert, wasn’t meant to be perpetuating jewish stereotypes at all. google it 😐

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Anonymous #30 8w

It literally isn’t. It’s the belief in a Jewish homeland.

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Anonymous #29 8w

so palestinians are jihadist terrorists? please explain (and don’t use hamas to encapsulate palestinians)

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Anonymous #30 8w

There’s a place for politics and a place for entertainment idk what’s so hard to understand. I’m Lebanese I lost my uncle my cousins my aunt from a bombing trust me i have a personal vendetta against them. But even I can see that we can seperate these things. Go protest if you want but it’s a protest for a reason a specific event for this, not a fun ed Sheeran concert for people that just want to have a good time

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Anonymous #28 8w

No, it’s the belief in Jewish supremacy. So it’s very problematic. Being Jewish doesn’t mean being a zionist. Ain’t no other group on earth gets a “homeland” and seat in the UN based off of having been discriminated against in the past.

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Anonymous #27 8w

Human rights aren’t political

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Anonymous #23 8w

Sure Hamas is suspect, but this isn't the beginning. Genocide in Palestine has been happening since the occupation/mass emigration after WWII.

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Anonymous #34 8w

you’re lwk right about it being in 2014 but saying that this isn’t meant to be a stereotype in anyway is funny bc like…

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Anonymous #13 8w

i’d argue he’s dressing in an arabic stereotype not jewish

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Anonymous #35 8w

You don’t even look.

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you need a mental facility

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you realize palestinians believe in the same god as jews right? why tf would god “choose” a group of people to be his and the rest just need to go away? israel has been terrorizing palestinians way longer than oct 7 and if you can’t see that, you’re willfully ignorant. btw bombing peoples homes isn’t typically defensive conflict

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Anonymous #36 8w

downvoted for what? y’all see a long nose and immediately assume jew?

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Anonymous #27 8w

Yall “music isn’t supposed to political” people are the dumbest motherfuckers to walk to earth. Art doesn’t exist in a vacuum and is a direct reflection of society and culture. That in and of itself is a politic. It doesn’t have to directly say “fuck the man” to still be political. Choosing to try to not reflect society in art is still a reflection. Not to mention the overwhelming majority of the history of music entertainment IS directly about politics and how policy and ethics shape a society

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Anonymous #25 8w

“You people” I know what you are. 🙄

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Anonymous #36 8w

Honestly you’re valid for this because this isn’t an exclusively Jewish feature… my whole family is from India and we have long, bridged noses as well. People all around the world have it

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History & facts say otherwise but ok racist lol

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mr. apolitical

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Anonymous #10 8w

You should put Macklemore on your playlist. Dude is good.

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What is Jew face? I’ve never heard anyone refer to Catholic face or any other religious face.

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Anonymous #52 8w

literally google is free, this was in 2014 & wasn’t meant to be a caricature

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Anonymous #13 8w

look up the situation, he wasn’t impersonating jewish ppl, it was literally just used as a disguise. obv it unfortunately looks similar to caricatures of jewish ppl but this was literally not the intention. it looks TERRIBLE in hindsight ofc. but to bring this picture up in 2026 w/o context is incredibly incredibly misleading, & the costume was not directly used to be antisemitic

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You’re antisemitic for associating that with Jewish people weird asf

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Anonymous #58 8w

Jewish is an ethnicity in edition to a religion

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Anonymous #39 8w

He advocates more than most artists please be so fr

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Anonymous #61 8w

Saying that “Jew face” is a thing is extremely antisemitic. Not all Jewish people look the same you POS

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Anonymous #49 8w

This is a global group

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Anonymous punkymantis 8w

Irish people don’t claim him

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Get your $7000 yet?

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Your ragebait is subpar, try to be more original

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Boring ragebait try harder next time

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if this is bait its kinda funny if its not then its very funny because how could someone write this and not see how psychotic it is

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Anonymous #44 8w

Fr like therapy is often free at universities

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Anonymous #30 8w

I didn’t say that? I was explaining why it is said about Jewish people and not Catholic people. I am not the first commenter, your anger is misplaced

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Anonymous #44 8w

Yup this is just shitty bait

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Meow

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Amen.

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It’s not resilient to bomb children and don’t conflate Zionism with Judaism. Anti Zionism is human antisemitism is evil

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Anonymous #30 8w

This guy is just wanting attention might as well just ignore him

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You’re definitely a dude who didn’t get enough attention growing up

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Anonymous #62 8w

you’re so weird

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Anonymous #26 8w

I know he is

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Have fun getting banned :)

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YABADABADOOOOOOOO THE MOON BELONGS TO ME I LIVE ON MARS AND EVERYONE WILL FEED ME GRAPES

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The IDF already snipes babies and the press why would they stop at other regular civilians

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Are you actually in college? Or did you drop out? Using an X post that's an unverified screenshot of CNN as a reliable source to justify your racism towards black people & POC is pure stupidity.

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What is this going to do to combat antisemitism?

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Anonymous #31 8w

Absolutely nothing. I honestly don’t even know how black people got dragged into the conversation about antisemitism in the first fucking place. 😭 These are the same idiots that love to say “You people always make everything about race!” Or “I don’t see color!” Yet love to constantly generalize based on RACE/COLOR. Racist love taking any chance they get to spread their ignorant hate even when the conversation doesn’t even provoke it.

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Anonymous #48 8w

That’s exactly why I asked. I guess they think that attacking another group will take the heat off of their group but all it’s doing is making them look worse.

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Anonymous #13 8w

It’s the makeup team equivalent of those disguise glasses 🥸 bushy facial hair, big nose caps, shitty haircut wigs, I’m sure the only reason he didn’t have comically crooked teeth was because he had to sing. It was cheesy and overused everywhere at the time and didn’t have anything to do with specific people. Seeing that and jumping to Jewish people is on you ngl. And if that was actually the issue then the very same venue would also have a problem with Mr Kanye Heil Hitler West so bffr

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Anonymous #31 8w

I wholeheartedly agree.

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Yes!!

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הוא מתומתם 🤣🤣

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Dumbass the study is literally for deaths not crimes committed so ur just showing that people in poorer neighborhoods are more likely to die from gun violence stupid

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Anonymous #58 8w

Co-Worker music imo, but I don't wanna be hating on it anymore than that

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You’re comparing crime that conveniently excludes conviction and exoneration statistics to Israel’s involvement in US politics that spans decades all so that we fund more wars and genocides while the price of everything from goods to education to healthcare skyrockets? And yeah, I totally believe you. Your response did not come from a place of personal hurt, you’re just soooo concerned for American society.

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why not

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Factual image being from the X user Garbageuser24 with a CNN Article. I don’t know what uni you go to, but I was taught to get my reliable sources through scholarly written journals or peer reviewed articles. Not from X nor from CNN. How about you do research on systemic racism, social injustice, oppression in America, or anti-blackness. Instead of pulling BS off the internet to justify your deranged obsession with black people. Truly seek therapy for the psychotic disorder(s) you have.

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Anonymous #6 8w

I’ve always hated ed Sheeran and I now see that I was always right

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Anonymous #67 8w

YES SHOUT OUT P!NK!!!!!!

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Anonymous #34 8w

That means he had 12 years to apologize and he still didn’t say anything except for “I didn’t know it was offensive”

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What makes you think that I like those countries? I am aware of what is happening in Sudan and Congo, and how China is deeply entrenched in Africa right now. But if we’re talking about Israel in this thread, obviously I am going to focus on them instead of those countries. In other threads that focus on those countries I do the same. Lol.

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And after your previous comments, I think we all know that that is not your skin tone. Live action role playing as a Black person after attempting to shift the blame to Black people when the topic is Zionists is hilarious. The jokes write themselves. I bet you listen to Black artists and love Black athletes too. 🫣

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Anonymous #7 8w

Hamas defended themselves against a terroristic, colonialist state. Israel’s actions would’ve resulted in a genocide regardless of oct 7th. You’re fucking brain dead if you think otherwise. You the type to say natives shouldn’t have been able to kill the Europeans trying to eliminate their existence.

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Lmao so that means we’re meant to believe you??? 🤣🤣

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Anonymous #31 8w

This person is so deranged. 😭 Their obsession with black people is genuinely terrifying.

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Anonymous #48 8w

Right? How did they manage to shift the conversation, this post has nothing to do with Black people?

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I can’t imagine fighting tooth and nail to defend a bs nation that’s murdering and displacing families, simply bc you feel you deserve the land more.

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For the Palestinian people. Ik it’s lost on you bc you’re a brain dead Zionist but the civilians aren’t terrorists. It’s a testament to the fact that you simply hate Palestinians, to think defending them is defending terrorists. Yall whine and bitch about Hamas like Israel hasn’t killed 60 times as many civilians. Why is it only terrorism when it’s not you?

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You seem to have realized how dumb you sounded and deleted it but bro I’m ghostly white from an incredibly white highly conservative area and even I understand how systemic racism can still be found today and its consequences. The long term effects of redlining and manufactured poverty among other things are still present like it’s not hard to see at all. Not to mention individual prejudices and implicit biases reinforcing systemic issues. You’re just stupid and ignoring the world around you

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Anonymous #41 8w

How’s he antisemitic?

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Anonymous punkymantis 8w

That bitch British, he not one of us 🫡

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He’s always advocated many things. The current topic, other countries, anti war and death in general, queer rights, marriage equality, racial justice, police brutality, consumerism, corporate greed, homelessness, big pharma, addiction recovery, artists rights, the list goes on. Bro has been more outspoken on more issues than the majority of people especially celebrities. Say whatever about him and his music but you can’t say he doesn’t speak up for others. What do you expect from a Seattle dude?

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Awfully confident being racist while anonymous. I wonder if they’d still be shit birds if everyone knew your name. Pussy ass bitch 🤣🤣

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Anonymous punkymantis 8w

Ur so right, the irish been thru shit too and they know better than to support the oppressors

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Anonymous #83 8w

Zionist Robert Kraft forced ed sheeran (owner of multiple venues) to remove him from is upcoming tours because he has been using his platform to advocate for Palestinian freedom. Ed obliged with the requests and Macklemore made an announcement explaining why. Now other openers are dropping out of the tour in solidarity with Macklemore and the Palestinians, and ed dropped “I’m not picking sides” response to the blowback.

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Anonymous #32 8w

this is based off the war in israel correct. i’m so off the grid i do t know what’s happening in the world 😭

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Anonymous #83 8w

the genocide of Israel against the Palestinian people, yes.

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Anonymous #32 8w

did Macklemore say something specific the kraft basically say fuck u get off tour? or what comments did macklemore say. like i understand macklemore wants the freedom for the people

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Anonymous #83 8w

you can find the video with an easily search. it was literally just, in summary, “free Palestine. part of the reason I’m here is to do my voice for good. i’m clarifying i am not being antisemitic and love my Jewish brothers and sisters, your governments actions don’t speak for you. but I can’t sit by and allow children to be slaughtered without using my voice to raise awareness.” and such. the most respectful way he probably could have put it

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Anonymous #32 8w

oh wtf. fuck kraft. it makes me wonder wat goes on behind the scenes as i thought ed was a good person😭

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you might be the actual dumbest person ive ever seen but idk why im surprised from a yikyak racist

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You’re not this stupid do better

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Anonymous #22 7w

He literally just had a show where he put a fake nose and all this other stuff to look like a “stereotypical Jew.” He’s very open about his hatred to Jews.

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Anonymous #89 7w

then it definitely makes no sense why they be letting kanye west perform when he has nazi ideologies too HELLA OPENLU

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Anonymous #72 7w

Idk what point u were trying to make Kanye isn’t continuing to create controversy over the show, Macklemore is. If Kanye was bringing shit up and wasn’t medicated again I’m sure they would kick him out lmao

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Anonymous #89 7w

he has a song out called h*il hitler so I would say he does create controvery. the bitch hangs out casually with the kkk

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Anonymous #89 7w

“Just had a show” and it was 12 years ago and he apologized and has been openly supportive of Jewish people since.

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Anonymous #72 7w

Nah trust I completely agree I just mean I saw something saying Macklemore was creating controversy ab the show specifically which Kanye didn’t do

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Anonymous #47 7w

He very much has not been openly supportive of Jewish people. And sure he apologized, doesn’t mean we should forget about it and move on. If someone did blackface on stage they’d never be performing again.

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Anonymous #89 7w

they didnt kick him off becuase he made fun of jews, the kicked him because hes anti-zionist and is not so psyched about the mureder and displacement of millions. robert kraft is a major bebe netanyahu supporter and LOVES israel so he called his buddies of other venues and ganged up on ed sheeran and told him to kick him off and ed sheerans bitchass let his ass be tossed around by billionaires.

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Anonymous #89 7w

and continuing controversy is just him not being a pussy and submitting to rich people who dgaf if innocent families are killed

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Anonymous #72 7w

You may be right, but I just wanna push back on one thing. Zionism has become such a taboo scary word and used to negatively describe people. I just want you to know, the true and original definition of Zionism is the belief that Jewish people deserve a homeland. Just like others have a homeland. Simple.

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Anonymous #89 7w

you cant just name it a "homeland" if the palestinians were living there for many years priar. they stole that shit and now want to push those people out with the most extreme tactics and now they block aid like food and medical gear so that maybe these people can at least survive. but no. these people made the term zionism negative because they are murdering and displacing generations under that movement. HOMELAND MY ASS

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Anonymous #89 7w

I just want to be clear. Nazi propaganda isn’t ok. But being a Jew shouldn’t excuse you from criticism. My dad’s side of the family was owned by Jewish people in west Mississippi. (Yes I actually can prove it). However, everyone only blames Christian people. True equality is recognizing everyone is flawed. And committing genocide is a Huge flaw and issue. And they deserve the criticism

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Anonymous #72 7w

Lol so they won the land in a war, gave it back, got more stolen from them, won that back. But they stole the land… got it. They block aid from THEIR border. Just like Jordan and Egypt do. Don’t get it twisted, I despise Bibi and the way he’s treating the innocent Palestinians. I think he’s a war criminal and deserves prison. However, I am not anti-Israel. Not anti-Palestine. I am for the innocent people of both countries living simultaneously like they did before Bibi and hamas.

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Anonymous #22 7w

You phrase that like Jews deserve criticism for being Jewish. Like it doesn’t make sense. When the Holocaust happened, people didn’t say “Germans bad because Germans did this.” They said “Nazis are bad” as a subsection. Bibi is bad, Jews are not bad.

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Anonymous #89 7w

Ah yes because “to all of my Jewish brothers and sisters; criticism of Israel, criticism of apartheid, being against genocide, in no way is a criticism of you” and “Antisemitism is real... When criticizing Israel, opposing Zionism or saying "Free Palestine" gets conflated with hatred of Jewish people, it doesn't protect Jewish people” is such a dig at Jewish people. Yall are wound up over a 12 year old party city witch nose to pretend he doesn’t also support Jewish people

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Anonymous #89 7w

nobody is anti-israel. every one if those innocent people deserve to live. however macklmore literally stood up for the people of jewish voice for peace. he then talked about how criticism of israel is not criticism of jewish people. and says how he loves all human beings. saying that its their border so they have a right to do it isnt justifiable when the aid isnt harmful and is meant to help. I am anti-israel GOVERNMENT excluding the people who have nothing to do with itand just want peace.

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Anonymous #72 7w

they dont like macklemore speaking up about palestine and his support of not wanting people to die.

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Anonymous #72 7w

I agree very strongly with you. But I will say that there certainly is a large population of people who are anti Israel and want it wiped out

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Anonymous #89 7w

idk its been rare that ive seen people at least in the U.S who want israel wiped out. everyone knows that this conflict has been going on for forever way before oct 7. however I dont think those views are necessarily uncalled for because its not like israel gives a single fuck about palestine. They have strategically killed a lot of medical professionals, journalists and volunteers just for "being in support of palestine". I dont think its very crazy to hear someone doesnt like your country...

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Anonymous #72 7w

because you murder millions of innocent people...

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Anonymous #47 7w

THANKYOU

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Anonymous #2 7w

Bro no one is supporting hamas! They’re supporting the innocent people who are being genocided

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Anonymous #1 7w

even this?

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Anonymous #94 7w

He was trying to make himself unrecognizable. Shame you thought this was meant to be antisemitic. We’re all familiar with the terrible caricatures tho, nice try!

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Anonymous #12 7w

are you kidding 😭 he could've chosen any other disguise. Even if it was a coincidence, it doesn't take a genius to realize why something like that would come across as antisemitic.

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Anonymous #94 7w

I’m not kidding and yes he could’ve chosen any other form of presenting himself. He’s not antisemitic mate

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Anonymous #12 7w

I don't think he was doing it to be hurtful, but I do think he knew what it represented and thought it would be funny.

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Anonymous #1 7w

you do understand that politics are what a huge portion of songs are about right lmao

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i haven't said shit about Israel or Palestine

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Anonymous #95 7w

sure, but I don't think Macklemore has a song about freeing palestine

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“Music shouldn’t be political” has to be one of the stupidest takes ever

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Anonymous #94 7w

So what?

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Anonymous #74 7w

SAME!!!

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How old was Aisha buddy?

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“Your” 🥀 the irony is palpable

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mind u those ppl chose to go to the concert? they paid to attend a concert where mackmore is announced to be an opener? like i’m lost ?

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Anonymous #97 7w

thats not what I said

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Anonymous #23 7w

Hamas isn’t real? Can you please show me where this information is found.

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Anonymous #102 7w

No. All he had to do was call Kraft’s bluff because those arenas would never realistically agree to throw away that much money by dropping Ed’s performances. Ed just had to push back a little

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Anonymous #61 7w

I just don’t think they would have. The men that own those stadiums are raging maga who have billions of dollars they can remake the revenue Ed would’ve brought in easily the next day with someone else.

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Anonymous #33 7w

legit 2002 it was filmed IDF soldiers shooting Palestinian boys in the crotch and watching them writhe around. It’s been going on for years and only now people have global eyes on it

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you cant call other people that when you cant even spell it correctly….

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Anonymous #85 7w

who does that have anything to do with ed?

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Anonymous #87 7w

bruh the stadium owner loves bibi netanyahu. WE KNOW its cause he spoke out against israel he was removed, not just for controversy. stop tryna act like this shit aint serious

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Anonymous #72 7w

Its very serious. You can’t go hijack someone’s stage for a protest. He didn’t even tell Ed he planned on hijacking it. Ed doesn’t get involved in the controversy for a reason, he had every right to remove Macklemore so his shows are about him music and not a protest. That’s what shows are no one goes to watch a protest. I’m all for Palestine but even I can see Ed is right. If you can’t see that grow up

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Anonymous #27 7w

Guys, it shouldn’t be that hard to understand that supporting a genocidal nation to this extent is WRONG. Like murdering children is not okay. Most of the sane left and the sane right are against what’s going on in Gaza ans Lebanon and you have to be a boomer/goyslopper to love the state of Israel right now

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Anonymous #92 7w

Yes I agree. I lost family to it in Lebanon they’re monsters. Go protest it all you want but protest in designated events not a concert that is all about just having a good time

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Anonymous #92 7w

Everyone is against whats going on in Gaza. You can be appalled by it while still supporting the existence of a Jewish state.

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Anonymous #94 7w

sorry real quick what does it mean for a state to be a jewish state

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Anonymous #94 7w

I agree with that as well. I’m Lebanese and I can tell you many of us believe that both states should coexist next to each other. Both Israel and Palestine should exist just in peace. A great start would be the abolishment of the current Israeli ways AND the abolishment of Hamas

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Anonymous #44 7w

A state where Jewish people can freely live because it is their homeland. Not only jews, anyone. There are millions arabs and christians living peacefully in Israel right now.

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Anonymous #27 7w

Israelis have been trying to get Netanyahu out of office for a long time. Unfortunately, he is very skilled at working Israeli politics, which are extremely complicated.

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Anonymous #94 7w

but youre saying there is a priority for one ethnicity? or religion?

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Anonymous #44 7w

not a priority, just freedom to live there.

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Anonymous #94 7w

That’s why the issue is so hard to fix. The Israeli government needs to go, Iranian government and we gotta abolish Hezbollah and Hamas and houthis which go down with Iran but still. Thats the only way peace can go through, it’s a shame

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Anonymous #44 7w

Israel is a majority Jewish state that’s what it means. Like gulf countries are majority Muslims so they are known as Muslim states. Same with Latin countries being catholic states.

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Anonymous #94 7w

normally ill hear it as "jewish self determination." you say not a priority but thats pretty contradictory to say "jewish state" and have birthright and freedom to live there for "jewish people" specifically and so on even then, why do they get priority to live in that area? especially when everyone can literally just read books over time and see that its expanding into land where others have already been living?

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Anonymous #27 7w

Its been a few weeks since I've seen an update but from what I've heard, the younger, more liberal Israeli population is really pushing a new party to take over. We'll have to see what happens at the next election. As for Hezbollah and Hamas, Israel and several arab countries just had a meeting, so hopefully they can collaborate on a solution.

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Anonymous #27 7w

israel *is* a majority jewish state. it has not always been. but more importantly, i dont think that it would remain so without direct intervention by israel -- do you agree with that?

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Anonymous #44 7w

just like germans are native to germany, jews are native to Judaea. Self determination doesn't mean "only we can be here," it means "we can be here in our homeland alongside others"

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Anonymous #94 7w

"we can be here... alongside others" but thats not really what is happening in israel though. 27 says majority jewish state. israel is expanding and settling further out. none of those things can coexist.

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Anonymous #44 7w

Israel is not expanding. It is a majority jewish state, just like america is a majority christian country. Majority doesn't mean only.

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Anonymous #94 7w

also, self determination doesnt mean that at all what are you talking about. self determination would be jewish people being in control and making decisions for the state of israel without others having a significant or noticeable influence.

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Anonymous #94 7w

sorry israel is not expanding?

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Anonymous #94 7w

christian isnt an ethnicity though, youre conflating different things

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Anonymous #44 7w

No? Are you referring to "greater Israel?" That's an idea pushed by the political parties even further right than Netanyahu, and it won't be happening. Israel hasn't expanded it's borders in a long time.

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Anonymous #44 7w

Ok. germany is a majority german state. Russia is a majority russian state. Etc.

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Anonymous #94 7w

israel is literally expanding into settlements as of... right now? theyve got occupied lands? you have high up government officials who openly speak of the plans for expansion? i mean my god we all know palestine has been shrinking

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Anonymous #44 7w

Israel's government is incredibly complicated. There are some officials who are that far right, and many who aren't. settlements doesn't mean the land is expanding, and there are actually a lot less settlements now than there have been in the past.

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Anonymous #94 7w

ok so germany and russia have been there for quite a while. israel, 1948. the population demographics have changed wildly to swing towards majority jewish. and then? again, same thing as i said before, the population demographics are changing around the world, just a fact of modern life. how do you preserve an artificially created ethnic majority for the sole purpose of self determination by that ethnic majority?

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Anonymous #94 7w

oh sorry the land in which israelis live in is growing, the land of israeli occupation is... currently unclear actually, theyre pushing into gaza and then theyre not and then theyve just occupied all of the west bank and then you have netanyahu and ben gvir saying into lebanon we go or into wherever

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Anonymous #94 7w

im not sure what youve done to convince yourself that a settler-colonialist state that is just selling occupied land isnt expanding. like what are you even talking about

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Anonymous #44 7w

Netanyahu and ben gvir are batshit crazy and the parliament won't let that happen. Military pushing land doesn't mean the borders are expanding, and the IDF has actually pulled back from their furthest advance.

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Anonymous #44 7w

the land of Judea is thousands of years old, just like the Jewish ethnicity. If a german was kicked out of germany for 2000 years, is he no longer german?

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Anonymous #94 7w

"top government officials who are in charge are crazy" thanks man real cool unfortunately thats what it is there and it hasnt changed for... 30 years? crazy to us here isnt crazy there. theyve got settlements and shit and youre just ignoring all of that and saying woweee thats nuts man they shouldnt do that its too bad they are! i wonder how we even got here! to israel being as big as it is! could it be... that they SETTLED ON THAT LAND TOO???

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Anonymous #94 7w

thats a cool thought. not what i said. if a prussian got kicked out of germany and then two thousand years later decided to put up a sign and say "prussia" and started kicking out everyone from germany and settling the land, does that make it cool?

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Anonymous #44 7w

how did Judaea fall under British control? Ottoman control? Roman control? Arab control? It was all settling. Thats how land is acquired. Sorry you don't like it, but war happens. I also mentioned in another comment that the reason netanyahu is still in control is because he is very skilled at israeli politics, but younger more liberal israelis are really pushing for a reform.

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Anonymous #44 7w

America is more of a settler-colonialist state than Israel ever has been, but nobody cares.

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Anonymous #94 7w

when itmar ben gvir is posting stuff about sending palestinians to "hungry camps" and talks with the likud about clearing out palestinians for jewish people to live in israel, does that make everyone else happy and coexisting? everyone living alongside each other?

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Anonymous #44 7w

Well, based on the fact that there are still 2 million arabs in Israel, its safe to say that not everyone was kicked out.

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Anonymous #94 7w

nice deflection, thats a cool thought actually! yea, people do care. notice how the united states became how it is through enormous tragedies? well that was 100-300 years ago. imagine if it were today! and happening somewhere else! manifest destiny all over again, in west asia! would YOU stop it? would you say... colonialism and settling is bad?

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Anonymous #44 7w

Dude, ive said nothing in support of ben gvir. I hate the current government and their way of doing things. I can still support the existence of israel. Your questions do not at all pertain to my views.

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Anonymous #94 7w

oh yea its just a nice work in progress! man youve got me beat here with this. theres so many arab (cant even say palestinian?) people *LEFT* in israel, theyre doing such a great job

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Anonymous #44 7w

Nobody cares as much about what americans did to natives compared to what is happening in Israel. and israel also started with this 100 years ago. Nobody cared then, why do we all of a sudden care? Nobody cared until 2005 when Hamas started fighting and israel fought back.

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Anonymous #94 7w

"i support israel" buddy. thats what ive been fucking talking about are you dense. israel is because of people like ben gvir. if it continues as is, it is because of them. you speak of this vague reformist stuff, and that just simply cannot be. im sorry man, youre not living in reality. the colonialism and settling that israel did for the last 80 years is pretty similar to the policy of top government officials, who are voted in by people saying what you say

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Anonymous #44 7w

the arab population has been ever increasing in israel actually. I don't say palestinians because palestinians live in Jordan.

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Anonymous #44 7w

Have you looked into the history of Israels leaders? You'll find that some of the PM's made great achievements without all this war and death. The nation Israel exists because of covenant god made with abraham. The modern country of israel exists because of WWII.

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Anonymous #94 7w

holy speak for yourself and prove my point man. "nobody cares" people do care. if you dont know, not my fault man. "nobody cares then" people did care. youve drowned them out. again, proving my point. "nobody cared then, why do you care now?" but then you speak of vague reformism. "ben gvir is CRAAAZY" and then "yea his predecessors who said the same werent crazy nobody cared"

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Anonymous #94 7w

oh! palestinians live in jordan? not in the land that was once called palestine but now is called israel because... of being pushed out by settlers? gosh i wonder why PALESTINIANS WOULDNT LIVE IN PALESTINE

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Anonymous #44 7w

if people care so much, why are people not protesting for us to give land back to native Americans? We almost completely wiped them off the face of the earth. Where's all the protests? They still exist, and we're all on their land.

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Anonymous #94 7w

"it was all settling" wow ok so we have the chance to say no to it and i say its bad and you say you think its bad but also complain when anyone says it should change and what has happened is bad. i gotta say youre actually delusional. incapable of separating your thoughts and biases when it comes to israel

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Anonymous #44 7w

The british mandate of palestine covered both modern day israel and jordan. It was split into a jewish state (israel) and a palestinian state (jordan.

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Anonymous #44 7w

what has happened IS bad. We can't change the past. Just work for a better future. Israels and palestinians can coexist peacefully, its been seen in many cases. It won't happen until theres a new israeli government, and a removal of the IRGC, Hamas, and Hezbollah.

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Anonymous #94 7w

PEOPLE LITERALLY HAVE. THERE ARE RESERVATIONS. AND NOTABLY, LIKE IN ISRAEL, THEY HAVE BEEN PUSHED AND PUSHED AND PUSHED INTO THESE LITTLE SHITTY LAND RESERVATIONS - LIKE HOW PALESTINIANS ARE JUST MAGICALLY IN "JORDAN" OR THE TINY LITTLE AREA OR GAZA. NATIVE AMERICANS GOT ETHNICALLY CLEANSED AND GENOCIDED WHY SPEAK ON THINGS LIKE AN AUTHORITY WHEN YOU KNOW NOTHING.

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Anonymous #94 7w

israelis and palestinians can coexist peacefully except overwhelmingly israelis vote against such. they vote for the likud and ben gvir types. the state of israel ensures that they literally cant coexist peacefully, the way that palestinians are in jordan or wherever. the goal is not to coexist like you say. thats not whats going on there, thats not what has happened for 80 years, and it wont change in the future because israel is what it is

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Anonymous #44 7w

my phones about to die i literally can talk no longer

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Anonymous #94 7w

I don’t know if you just don’t live near reservations but people are and have been protesting what happened to the indigenous peoples of America as well… like for a long time. I know so many people that have been attacked by riot police for standing up for THEIR LEGAL LAND and the reservation got their water cut off over it. It was a whole thing where I grew up. Wounded knee occupation? Alcatraz occupation? The trail of broken treaties? Standing rock? Don’t use this as a scapegoat

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Anonymous #25 7w

Leave us the fuck out of it! This is between you white peoples. Jesus Christ. We are always on you people mind.

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Anonymous #94 7w

He does

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Anonymous #2 7w

Well after all the crap Palestinians put up with since the Nakba of 1948, is it really surprising that the PLO, Hezbollah, and Hamas formed? If China took over the USA and had killed your family & friends for decades, would you just say “oKaY “ or go for vengeance? Be real.

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Anonymous #108 7w

People don’t realize they’ve been killing Palestinians since they arrived. Raping then, poisoning. Etc etc

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Anonymous #108 7w

Nah I get defending Palestine but you gotta draw the line at the terrorist organizations. In Lebanon we hate Hezbollah cause they ruin our country. All the region wants is peace, and that means abolishing all of the terrorists, the IDF Hezbollah Hamas Houthis and Iran government and then we can get peace. We didn’t want Hezbollah to go fight Israel cause look what it did to us now, I lost 5 family members to this and for what, I’m just for the people and a two state solution and just peace

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Anonymous #109 7w

There is no such thing as Palestine.

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Anonymous #29 7w

you’re genuinely dumb

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Anonymous #40 7w

me when i’m stupid

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Anonymous #39 7w

you shouldn’t go to this school if your iq is this low, idiot

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Okay? What does that have to do with anything I just said. I’m saying none of these terrorists should have power. I promise you I know more about this entire issue than you do and I’m just giving a viewpoint of someone who’s actually been affected by this

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Anonymous #109 7w

You are the idiot.

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Anonymous #39 7w

waaa waaa b*tch go cry. Palestine has the world on their side.

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Anonymous #109 7w

This is a global group

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Anonymous #109 7w

But otherwise agree completely

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Anonymous #61 7w

what?

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Anonymous #109 7w

This isn’t just your school

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Anonymous #109 7w

yikyak requires school emails for some communities but not posts like these so #39 could just be some random 30 year old, just like twitter! how exciting!

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Anonymous #44 7w

oh never mind i see

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