The comment section discourse is so interesting because nowhere in the post are the words “left”, “right”, “trump”, “kirk”, or “liberal”. Obama mentioned government coercion and first amendment violations, and MAGA supporters immediately went on the defensive? Hypothetically, Trump is only one part of our government, and yet, you immediately reveal that you 1) agree that he’s responsible for the Kimmel suspension, 2) agree that he’s violating the first amendment right
I love how people get so offended when someone loses their job for using freedom of speech “ no matter how terrible it is” but then cheer when someone dies for using their freedom of speech. It’s absolutely disgusting. That show was losing millions of dollars a year I’m sure this was on purpose to end the show or his job at said show
You know why only one side can be racist at a time? Power. If a disenfranchised immigrant says he hates White people, he is prejudiced. He cannot be racist. He has no power to negatively impact an entire race. He's a bigot. White people have the power to impact the lives of Black people on a scale that impacts the entire race of people. That's racism.
it’s funny yall think the democrats don’t do this as well?? republicans just got called out for it. also it’s their company if they don’t like what the spokesperson said then i’d get rid of him too?? that’s literally his job is to say what the company wants him to say it’s not his company. if he fails to do his job for the reason you hired him wouldn’t you fire him too? it’s their business what they want to be represented as for their company. they own it lol
This issue is that people were getting canceled for things they said 10+ years ago or for situations taken out of context. Whereas Jimmy Kimmel was mocking a dude who was shot in front of his wife and kids, all for simply debating people in person and allowing them to express their opinions even if he didn’t agree with them
I think it’s important to understand that liberals brought about cancel culture and constantly defended it by saying “freedom of speech isn’t freedom of consequence”. Jimmy Kimmel mocked the assassination of a man only days later after the fact and continued to spew proven lies about the situation to his audience. If his remarks were about anyone else other than a popular right wing activist there would be ZERO confusion or protest as to why ABC didn’t wanna associate with him
oh yeah because saying that it was a “huge mistake” to pass the civil rights act and by spouting great replacement theory bullshit is “educating” many young Americans. Get the fuck out of here, he lived and died spreading hate. In his own words, shooting deaths are just a “consequence” of having gun rights so shut the fuck up.
it really isn’t and I would say the same thing if a liberal was doing it too. he’s not a government official, he’s just some dumb podcaster who compared the holocaust to abortion and makes videos calling students half his age “dumb liberals” if they disagree with him. that’s not a “debate” it’s inciting hate. genuinely it seems like you people either lack basic comprehension or you’re arguing in favor of Charlie Kirk without having watched a single “debate” of his.
In my opinion, trump appointed Brendan Carr is threatening ABC’s license that’s why they pulled Kimmel. Trump has claimed that networks that cover him in a negative manner could lose their license. I see that as we aren’t allowed to criticism our government or president. So yeah trumps fault
I get what they’re saying but people need to do research before adding inflammatory language into arguments. 52 is right- fascism is extreme far right authoritarianism in the same way communism is extreme far left authoritarianism. Neither is good but we can’t just be getting mad and arguing instead of trying to understand one another
Please, if u really wanna have this conversation u would say the left is communist and the right is fascist. The fact that u used fascist to describe the left tells me you simply dont care about what the left or right stand for and are just saying things to spew hate/misinformation
i have been for the past however many years hes been staining american politics and they mostly consist of him talking over or cutting the mic of the other person when they start winning 😭😭😭 you do realize all those debates you watch are clips he cherry picked to make himself look good right? why would he post a debate that he doesnt think paint him in a positive light
As 42 commented the associated press. The Atlantic also wrote an article about it. He himself was not trans but he was a trans activist who had a trans partner. He’s not a groyper. Also I personally don’t care what Jimmy Kimmel says and does but this is a very simple explanation for why a major company wouldn’t want to associate with him. Imagine if after George Floyd, Jimmy Kimmel made jokes about how his family reacted and then started saying that everyone knows he overdosed.
If you’re a good person and condemn the violence against Kirk thats great, then im not attacking you. However I have lost all respect I could’ve possibly had for your side after seeing the democrats reaction to this. Its not just a few bad actors, theres countless posts and videos ive seen where they either try to justify or alleviate the problem. Wether its the out of context comments or just straight up made up stories about Kirk, only one fact persists, a family lost their father figure
Nah his ratings and all of late night TV’s ratings have been down for years. That’s why CBS pulled the late show and Conan’s show stopped. That’s why format just isn’t super popular in today’s media landscape. Would ABC have fired him if it weren’t for this, idk, but this was nothing more than the straw that broke the camels back
was that so hard? fym on the basis of nothing since before they even had a suspect in custody trump came out as saying that “radicals on the left are the problem.” thats exactly what kimmel said it was - characterizing the assassin as an other by any means necessary, before they even have a name of who did it
Except there were also ppl assassinated during Biden’s presidency & no one got sued by the literal government for not liking the United ceo, or threatened with having completely unrelated gov contracts pulled/the gov getting involved to hurt their foreign business with bogus National security policy enforcement against them. This is literal tyranny, the fat fuck can burn in hell. Ppl supporting this are evil idiots & fundamentally Anti-American
When bro knows how to google but doesn’t know how to read and comprehend a statement 💔 how did the left “create cancel culture” or whatever you said made the left suppress the opposition from what I can remember we just didn’t want a political figure inciting violence at a government building or being a criminal
So you are kind of admitting you don’t care if the violence is on your side because then it’s ok? Here’s a quote from it as well: “Much of this research suggests that compared to left-wing extremists, right-wing extremists may be more likely to engage in politically motivated violence. In comparison to left-wing supporters, right-wing individuals are more often characterized by closed-mindedness and dogmatism and a heightened need for order, structure, and cognitive closure”
“For probably” you’re just spouting bullshit like an asshole after too much Taco Bell. You don’t have a source and I don’t need one to prove that liberals are more violent bc of the George Floyd riots you have no argument and you are wrong based on fact not opinion you are just simply wrong.
Hi man I want to fact check ya not out of any hidden agenda or nothing but it isn’t confirmed his legs and or arms were broken He has yet to be examined by autopsy the person who said his legs were broken apparently has no relation to the family no hate all love but I agree it’s fishy asf
They were not the same person and thats part of the reason germany lost the war. Hitler HATED stalin so much that he tried to stab stalin in the back. And everyone knows not to attack russia at winter, so they went when it was warm, but no luck, stalin burned all their crops and farms so the germans large army couldnt survive even the warm months cuz they couldnt live off the land.
Are your parents siblings or something? I’m surprised you even know how to type given the sheer stupidity you’ve chosen to publicly display. Idk how many times I have to repeat it for you to understand, the federal government going after people speaking their mind with the abuse of law is not the same thing as people not telling you to be racist and using their consumer power to not promote that
Agreed. Fact is, we don’t know for sure what he was ideologically yet, and two many people have an agenda to push him one way or the other. The fact is, political violence across the board and party line has been sharply increasing in this country, with both right and left leaning victims, which is something we should all be coming together to address. Instead, they’re deliberately pulling media and figures that support one side in order to suppress freedom of speech and the press. Es no bueno.
Both sides have definitely engaged in unsavory behavior, so it’s worth considering them; it’s not deflection, especially when most of the recently recorded incidents of political violence seem to mostly come from people leaning to the right. The cases specifically mentioned were before media manipulation concerns, so the verdict on the shooter’s affiliations are likely more accurate
I should’ve clarified; I grouped 93’s list into that “recent events” category. The people behind those attacks were all indisputably right-leaning. Luigi and Routh (kinda?) are the two I can think of on the left. Again, jury’s still out on Robinson (and probably will be for a while)
So you just brought up a ton of irrelevant things lmao. Although the trump shooter was a registered republican, no one was able to uncover his motives. The man that assassinated the Minnesota lawmakers was a democrat and claimed that Tim Walz made him do it. I don’t believe this to be political at all, I believe the man to just have been crazy. And tbh I know nothing about the Pelosi attacked but wouldn’t surprised if he was a republican that was politically motivated. Nothing to do with Tyler
There are studies that show right wing extremists are more likely to commit violent crimes and left wing extremists are more likely to destroy property. These studies all seem to take data from long periods of time, some starting as far back as 1990. Given how rapidly our political climate is changing I would be interested in seeing a study on the past 5 years
The problem I have is that with the platform that he has, he could have handled it better. Focusing on Trump jokes instead of maybe reading the room surrounding political tension was a bad call. You don’t have to even mention Charlie by name. He could have just left it at “political violence is wrong - be kind, be better” or something simple. Taking 30 seconds to be an actual human being and not capitalizing on an already tense situation isn’t hard imo
Great, if you feel that strongly you can call the network and use your power as a consumer to get him fired. What you can’t do and simultaneously claim to be American is say it’s okay for the government to threaten bankrupting companies unless they cowtow to speech demands. I don’t watch Kimmel, idgaf what he says—the gov has no right to get involved
Oh give me a break on misinformation. If you think this is a free speech cancelation and not a justifiable firing for being unprofitable, unfunny, and tone-deaf then you believe misinformation. Miss me with that crap. He got fired by liberal ABC for being bad at his job. No one has a right to appear on public broadcast, owned by you and I, to spread outright lies about an assassin. That’s the danger to the country.
You are spreading lies on YikYak. Normally I don’t believe in censorship but your take makes me consider it. ABC is regulated by the FCC for being a public broadcasting channel therefore it is subject to different laws regarding speech, and you know that but are choosing to be dishonest. Trump is your daddy.
He’s referring to his impact on the culture lol. He himself didn’t take any action against ABC or Kimmel. If he wanted to/was capable of silencing Kimmel earlier he would’ve, Kimmel has been going after Trump forever and a lot of other ppl who’s jobs weren’t impacted in any way constantly go after Trump. He got fired exclusively cuz ABC didn’t wanna be associated with a guy who mocked an assassination and intentionally spread divisive lies about the situation
So what are you even trying to say? That because more right wing extremists it’s okay if left wing people do it? Are you trying to defend a murder? Also can you give some real life examples of this cuz the most recent two I can think of were both liberals and most shootings are not political ly motivated so that argument makes no sense
Based on studies, right wing extremists are more likely to conduct individual acts of violence while left wing extremists are more likely to riot and destroy property. I will say it would be interesting to see what criteria goes into classifying what “right wing violence” is. These studies also start in the 90’s and given our rapidly changing political environment it would be interesting to see what the numbers reflect from the past 5 years
Isn’t it funny how it’s ok to cancel ppl for saying a mean word. But someone gets fucking assassinated and a host gets fired for saying he deserves it and now cancel culture is an issue. If you want to keep your job don’t act like a piece of shit. That’s why he got fired. For rooting for someone to die. And that shit is deserved
Hold up a second, let’s break this down. You believe that if an employee exposes leftist views, regardless of how tasteless, out of touch, and divisive they are, their company of employment is forced to keep them and loses all rights on who they associate with? It sounds like ur the one who hates free speech.
This comment is intellectually disingenuous. He mentioned the current administration which is Trump and is the right which is why those terms are coming up. The reason ppl are hopping to defend Trump is for many reasons. Primarily because liberals championed cancel culture for the last 10 years and screamed from rooftops that free speech doesn’t equate freedom of consequence. If that’s how you feel it must go both ways and liberals cancelled conservatives for much less.
Thirdly, if you want to bring up right wingers that have said outlandish things in the past, they have all said those things from their own independent platforms. Because of cancel culture and the liberal domination of the media, conservatives aren’t on major network channels, only liberals are. If Kimmel wants to start his own YouTube, Twitter, or Patreon and say whatever he wants he is completely free to. That’s what free speech is. Free speech isn’t making a private corporation put up with u
This is a straw man argument. One person’s horrid actions do not excuse another’s. Also please don’t assume that all liberal and left leaning people defended or endorsed those actions. Many people on both sides of the aisle called for Clinton’s impeachment. And those same people on both sides are now critiquing the trump administration. Do not use the actions of a few as an argument against an entire group of people. That’s just a bad argument.
There’s a difference between cancel culture (ie public pressure to not support someone) which we can absolutely debate on where or whether it’s ethically valid but definitely falls under the protection of free speech. This is not public pressure. This is government pressure on media conglomerates. The government does not get to participate in ‘cancel culture’. When the government uses political, financial or military pressure to dictate who gets to say what and where, that is authoritarism.
I wanna start by saying the government didn’t pressure ABC. The government never took any action against ABC nor did they reach out to ABC. ABC acted alone. The headlines on this topic have been very misleading. What happened was the commissioner of the FCC went on a podcast and spoke about his displeasure with Kimmel’s statements. He has every right to express his displeasure and ironically him doing so makes it near impossible for the FCC to go after ABC because it is extremely
Self incriminating and it would make for an easy lawsuit for ABC. They would literally play that clip of the FCC commissioner in court and ABC could do effectively whatever they want to the FCC. I also want to point out that as far as authoritarianism goes, the Biden administration told social media outlets to censor pro Trump information and information that made the Biden administration look bad
Again I’m not agreeing with biden’s administrations censorship either. I’m saying that pointing to another issue as justification for this is a straw man argument. also I don’t know the podcast that’s you’re referencing but I’ll definitely look it up. All I’m saying is that the FCC commissioner publically censored ABC for capitulating to the threat of lawsuit, since (you’re right) it absolutely wouldn’t hold up in court. Her comment is in the fcc website.
I realized I phrased this kind of confusingly ^^ her comment is on the FCC website. Essentially she claims that the government’s threat of censorship (whether or not it would hold up in court) and the ensuing high-profile litigation was enough of a motive for ABC to start yanking people
Okay. Where were you when Tucker Carlson was trying to be kicked off Fox News, the President off Twitter, Alex Jones from his channel? That lead to not just big names, but average right wing journalists being purged off the internet at the governments behest. Led to massive censorship through “misinformation.” Do you reject this or plan on talking out both sides of your mouth?
the fbi repeatedly prematurely said that they had the "subject" in custody. they claimed there were no Epstein files. the fbi is being run by a podcaster with no law degree and huge swaths of veteran staff have been fired. they are very clearly not a reliable source of information.
Ok well if you wanna talk about Kimmel, I’ll just repeat what I’ve been saying the whole time. He is employed by a major media corporation. If an employee says something that their corporation thinks is going to get them in hot water, it’s not uncommon for them to fire or suspend them to avoid tainting their name. The “jokes” he made were tone deaf given the state of the country rn and he just added fuel to the fire which he was well aware of
Really? You don’t think the definition of “cancel culture” is people getting mad and trying to get others fired for their comments? You think it was just Joe Biden saying that individuals had to be fired for using the r word or something? I guess you really do need a picture to help you understand, dumbfuck.